What the hell ever happened to it. Wasn't game arts suppossedly working on this? Also the rerelease of Lunar 2: Eternal blue.... how different is it from the original? I played through Lunar: Silver Star Story complete and it was different enough to keep my interest. Is this the same for the PSX special of part 2 a few years ago?
Lunar 3
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Patrick Klepek
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working designs has been promising a new lunar for how long?
lunar 2 on PS sucks.Cimarron said:
it's actually missing content (dungeons) that were in the sega CD version. it was a worse port to saturn than the lunar SSS was, and then a worse port from saturn to playstation, resulting in crap. crappity crap.
i am also not a fan of its characters or story, but if you are, you might like the CG-tacular anime sequences.
so it's fairly different, but IMO it also kind of stinks.
jarrod said:
Nah, they haven't announced it yet. We thought they were gonna, but it was a mixup with code-names, the game we were thinking was Dark Cloud 3 was actually God of War. The old working title for God of War was "Dark Odyssey," which sounded for all the world like a sequel to Dark Chronicle, but no dice.
If you go to the Level 5 website, though, the teaser art for their "Next RPG" has an SCEI copyright indicator on it, so it ain't exactly hard to do the math.
DFS.
It's very easy to paint such a critical view on these games nearly a decade later, and I wouldn't dispute anything ferricide or DFS openly state. However if you DO have the marginal propensity to revisit a relic like Lunar 2 in 32-bit form, you'll get a largely inoffensive fantasy yarn with colorful characters, vibrant artwork, and a soundtrack that is easy for the ears to digest. The grind of combat and exploration itself was plodding even 6-years ago, only the truly dedicated could profit from the game portions.
The remake is more or less the same with a PSX coat of paint, some slight changes to the melodrama, but I don't recall such a savage alteration as ferricide states(though it has been so long) On the record, I always preferred Lunar 2 myself.
The remake is more or less the same with a PSX coat of paint, some slight changes to the melodrama, but I don't recall such a savage alteration as ferricide states(though it has been so long) On the record, I always preferred Lunar 2 myself.
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That depends.WarPig said:
Ys I-II's arcadey action is easier for me to take these days than traditional-RPG slog, and the music is more to my taste. Most of those dungeons are pretty damn sloppy and painful these days, though. And was Ys III ever good? The first two certainly look better these days than, say, Sorcerian.Brandon F said:
Actually, what I enjoyed about the Lunar games the most was the positioning aspect in battles. It's almost like an SRPG in that sense, where positioning matters because of the area of effect spells. That being said, I liked Lunar SSS far more than Lunar 2 EB in terms of the actual game. The stupid run button was an incredible irritation for me.
I played the SS version of both for what it's worth.
jiji said:That depends.
See, I couldn't do that Hydlide jazz even six-seven years ago, let alone now. It amazes me that it took them three games to master the notion of an "attack" button. The music's nice, though, that is true. The one part of the series that holds up.
Ys III I thought was good in, like, 1992, but I liked a lot of stupid shit when I was a teenager, so I don't see as how I oughta trust that opinion.
DFS.
There was a range of movement for characters and a range of influence for some attacks. A character with low health could be retreated to the back where an enemy couldn't reach on a single turn, or some characters could fail an attack if they ended up spending their range trying to get close enough. Sometimes a character could also be out of range of certain magics/specials depending on where they were positioned on the field.
... hadn't noticed Tsubaki already addressed this above.
... hadn't noticed Tsubaki already addressed this above.
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I liked it okay. And I totally had Starbucks with Noriyuki Iwadare once. You better believe I asked if he was doing the music for Lunar 3 or what.
totally objectively, lunar 2 actually *looks worse* than lunar 1 on PS1. it's less upgraded from its 16 bit incarnation, has hella screen tearing and (since it's based on a rather shitty saturn port) has stuff like fake transparencies. very, very yucky.djtiesto said:
IMO the story and characters lack most of what made the first one's interesting. there's one good thing about the story --
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They're too busy wasting their time eon their inferior RPG series to work on Lunar.
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You BETTER not be talking about Grandia.....
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ferricide said:
My heart breaks when someone says they don't love Dark Cloud 2...stop hurting me.
Gamestop has Dark Cloud 3 listed, surely that is all the confirmation you could possibly need. :lol
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=T000042
heh, can't help it.Grizzlyjin said:My heart breaks when someone says they don't love Dark Cloud 2...stop hurting me.
that's definitely a game where i gave it a good score because i could see how it deserved it, but i didn't really like it at all. is that the opposite of the paper mario defense? =O
Grandia is an inferior series compared to Lunar.The Prime Director said:
It's battle system is WAAAAAY better (obviously...Lunar isn't exactly the most advanced in that area), but everything else about the game(s) is decidedly and markedly inferior to Lunar.
Oh, and Post #2,000.
Must be an alien or something but i LOVE Lunar series (and when it came out it was ahead of it's time) and also LOVE Dark Cloud 2. Can't wait for the third.
Screw the generated dungeons hate. DC2 rock hard as an action-rpg ("rpg adventure" for the douche bags) and it's so shocking full of great gameplay!
Screw the generated dungeons hate. DC2 rock hard as an action-rpg ("rpg adventure" for the douche bags) and it's so shocking full of great gameplay!
DC2 had some *AMAZING* elements behind it... I loved the fishing, golf (Spheda), town building, etc... but there were a few annoyances with the game - the first thing would be the boring, repetitive dungeons... For the sequel, Instead of random dungeons, put in some actual level design and puzzles to solve, and I'll be set. DC2 was such an improvement over the first game, that I have a feeling 3 will be amazing... Definitely the closest we're gonna get to a new Actraiser for a while
Some of the negative impressions of the Lunars come from SNES holdouts or PlayStation kiddies who first experienced the series in the 32-bit era. Coming from the releases when they originated on the SEGA CD, the games definitely played well for Japanese console RPGs of their time. When the 32-bit era rolled around, players of the original games moved on to the next evolution in dynamic combat for the genre when Grandia came out for Saturn.
If a Lunar 3 were to be made, it wouldn't imply an outdated fighting system; GameArts's progress in that area should just be continued -- since they already moved beyond random battles, one of the next steps could be to have battles take place directly on the world terrain, even when its multi-tiered and uneven, and not on a separate battle field.
If a Lunar 3 were to be made, it wouldn't imply an outdated fighting system; GameArts's progress in that area should just be continued -- since they already moved beyond random battles, one of the next steps could be to have battles take place directly on the world terrain, even when its multi-tiered and uneven, and not on a separate battle field.
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