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Mac OS X Mountain Lion. Move your Mac even further ahead

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falconzss

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What's wrong with VLC?

As of version 2.0 nothing IMO. Had often a pixelated mess with earlier versions when fast forwarding or jumping to a specific point on the timeline. Used MPlayer OSX Extended during that time but am now back to using VLC because it's loading the videos faster than MPlayer OSX Extended.
 

elsk

Banned
I completely hard wiped my Macbook Pro and can't find my OS installation disk.

The big problem is that I can't access the App Store to buy a copy of Mountain Lion (can't do it through the OSX Utilities or Safari) and Apple doesn't sell a hard disc copy.

Suggestions?

Err... try booting from the recovery hard drive. Turn your mac on, and hold Option key. But if you hard-wiped you may have deleted that part too :/
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
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Got excited but it was just a printer update. :lol
 

Sean

Banned
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but I'm trying a multi-monitor setup on OS X for the first time:

When I go full-screen in VLC or QuickTime on one monitor, it blacks out my other screen too (essentially making that useless). Any way to prevent this (I'm on Mountain Lion)? I'd like to have a movie up on one screen (fullscreen), web browser on the other for example.
 

mrkgoo

Member
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but I'm trying a multi-monitor setup on OS X for the first time:

When I go full-screen in VLC or QuickTime on one monitor, it blacks out my other screen too (essentially making that useless). Any way to prevent this (I'm on Mountain Lion)? I'd like to have a movie up on one screen (fullscreen), web browser on the other for example.

Nope, fullscreen implementation in Lion/Mountain Lion is not ideal. Not sure what can be done - it's easy to SAY, hey just throw up another screen down there, but what happens when you swipe to another full screen or desktop? the bottom on shifts to the top? The OS keeps track of different top and bottom screens?

Obviously, there's a solution somewhere, but it's not as simple as people think.

Anyway, "fullscreen" in Lion/ML is a special mode, that opearates as a whole separate space.

I suggest taking the movie out of full screen, and just maximising on that screen, thus it's just a really big window on a desktop space. Then open something else in the remain desktop space on the other screen.
 

Mr. F

Banned
Nope, fullscreen implementation in Lion/Mountain Lion is not ideal. Not sure what can be done - it's easy to SAY, hey just throw up another screen down there, but what happens when you swipe to another full screen or desktop? the bottom on shifts to the top? The OS keeps track of different top and bottom screens?

Obviously, there's a solution somewhere, but it's not as simple as people think.

Anyway, "fullscreen" in Lion/ML is a special mode, that opearates as a whole separate space.

I suggest taking the movie out of full screen, and just maximising on that screen, thus it's just a really big window on a desktop space. Then open something else in the remain desktop space on the other screen.

Yeah this is what I've ended up doing. Really frustrating that there's no better way to accomodate multitasking across multiple displays on an OS level.
 

mollipen

Member
What's wrong with VLC?

I have never used a version of VLC that actually worked properly a majority of the time when I wanted it to, and I've also never, ever liked any of the interfaced they've used for the app. I know some people swear by VLC, but every time I give it another shot I remember why I don't use it.
 

Ambitious

Member
My rMBP just refused to wake up this morning. The keyboard lights were on, but nothing happened. Closed the lid, reopened it, all lights off. No reaction to anything. Was it even on? I would've known if they hadn't removed the LED in the front. Form over function my ass. Had to hold the power button to kill it.

I've had waking up problems since my first Mac in 2007, running Leopard. How about they actually fix shit like that instead of removing and replacing useful features?

Nope, fullscreen implementation in Lion/Mountain Lion is not ideal. Not sure what can be done - it's easy to SAY, hey just throw up another screen down there, but what happens when you swipe to another full screen or desktop? the bottom on shifts to the top? The OS keeps track of different top and bottom screens?

Obviously, there's a solution somewhere, but it's not as simple as people think.

Anyway, "fullscreen" in Lion/ML is a special mode, that opearates as a whole separate space.

I suggest taking the movie out of full screen, and just maximising on that screen, thus it's just a really big window on a desktop space. Then open something else in the remain desktop space on the other screen.

Yeah this mess they call 'Mission Control' shouldn't have been implemented in the first place. Seems to me the key design goal was to heavily make use of horizontal swipes because it's so extraordinarily easy to use, boom.
 

mrkgoo

Member
Yeah this is what I've ended up doing. Really frustrating that there's no better way to accomodate multitasking across multiple displays on an OS level.

Yeah this mess they call 'Mission Control' shouldn't have been implemented in the first place. Seems to me the key design goal was to heavily make use of horizontal swipes because it's so extraordinarily easy to use, boom.

Agreed.

Fullscreen is nice, but it's obvious that it doesn't seem all that well thought out in its current implementation. I get the notion - make it like iOS, one app at a time, swipe between them (and auto save, resume etc etc).

And it does work. Problem is it breaks other concepts that we use in our current form of the Desktop analogy.

Mission control kind of had to be done, it's basically Expose but with a bar showing your full screens. Fine in concept, but in practice it adds too much information. It's like you swipe into an area that manages two things at once, which is the opposite of what I consider intuitive.

I still think there's a solution for multi displays out there. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but hopefully Apple are testing them. That, however, is kind of the issue. A blank screen with linen texture is all they can come up with?

Again, it's not a simple thing to implement. I mean, for example, my ideal would be to have two screens - when you swipe on one, THAT one swipes to the next app/Desktop.

But what do you do about order? Do you allow swiping to the SAME screen? What happens to Desktops that span across two screens? What happens if your screens are arranged vertically vs horizontally?
 

Krelian

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Sorry if this is a newbie question, but I'm trying a multi-monitor setup on OS X for the first time:

When I go full-screen in VLC or QuickTime on one monitor, it blacks out my other screen too (essentially making that useless). Any way to prevent this (I'm on Mountain Lion)? I'd like to have a movie up on one screen (fullscreen), web browser on the other for example.
In VLC under Settings -> Video you can uncheck the "black out other screens" option (not sure what it's called exactly but you should be able to find it). It's possible you have to also uncheck native full screen mode first in Settings -> Interface. Unfortunately I can't test it myself since I only have one screen at the moment.

My rMBP just refused to wake up this morning. The keyboard lights were on, but nothing happened. Closed the lid, reopened it, all lights off. No reaction to anything. Was it even on? I would've known if they hadn't removed the LED in the front. Form over function my ass. Had to hold the power button to kill it.

I've had waking up problems since my first Mac in 2007, running Leopard. How about they actually fix shit like that instead of removing and replacing useful features?
You can see what the problem was when you open Console.app and scroll up to the last time you booted up. If it's not immediately apparent you could also try to post the output somewhere and link it here.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
That looks like it's specific to Lion and Mountain Lion and I don't currently have access to that since I haven't bought it.

Is there a way to buy Mountain Lion through my iPod Touch? I've looked through the app store and nothing. If I could just buy it and tie it to my account I would be able to resurrect my laptop.

Err... try booting from the recovery hard drive. Turn your mac on, and hold Option key. But if you hard-wiped you may have deleted that part too :/

Yeah it just takes me to the same options screen on installing mountain lion or support from safari.

This is why we still need hard copies goddammit!
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Blackhead

Redarse
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but I'm trying a multi-monitor setup on OS X for the first time:

When I go full-screen in VLC or QuickTime on one monitor, it blacks out my other screen too (essentially making that useless). Any way to prevent this (I'm on Mountain Lion)? I'd like to have a movie up on one screen (fullscreen), web browser on the other for example.
Obviously, there's a solution somewhere, but it's not as simple as people think.

You can turn off the Mac OS X native fullscreen in VLC's settings which allows the old proper way of fullscreen, without blacking out other monitors, to work.
 

Ambitious

Member
Agreed.

Fullscreen is nice, but it's obvious that it doesn't seem all that well thought out in its current implementation. I get the notion - make it like iOS, one app at a time, swipe between them (and auto save, resume etc etc).

And it does work. Problem is it breaks other concepts that we use in our current form of the Desktop analogy.

Mission control kind of had to be done, it's basically Expose but with a bar showing your full screens. Fine in concept, but in practice it adds too much information. It's like you swipe into an area that manages two things at once, which is the opposite of what I consider intuitive.

I still think there's a solution for multi displays out there. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but hopefully Apple are testing them. That, however, is kind of the issue. A blank screen with linen texture is all they can come up with?

Again, it's not a simple thing to implement. I mean, for example, my ideal would be to have two screens - when you swipe on one, THAT one swipes to the next app/Desktop.

But what do you do about order? Do you allow swiping to the SAME screen? What happens to Desktops that span across two screens? What happens if your screens are arranged vertically vs horizontally?

I think the old Expose/Spaces combo was nearly perfect.

leopard-preview-spaces-11.jpg


Being able to see all windows on all desktops on all monitors at once and to move the windows and desktops freely without limitations. And because of the grid arrangement, one could rely on muscle memory to switch to a specific desktop. Move mouse to active corner, move mouse to the corner with your Photoshop/Browser/Video/whatever desktop, click and done. In MC, you have closely look at the small thumbnails to find a window (if it isn't fullscreen or you've got more than four desktops), and if it isn't easily distinguishable from others, you have to go over all screens. And even worse, in the default setting the desktops are arranged by the most recent use.

But obviously it worked better with a mouse, you'd have to also swipe vertically and diagonally with a trackpad. And the primary and secondary desktops were connected. But like I said, it wasn't perfect. Still way better than MC.


You can see what the problem was when you open Console.app and scroll up to the last time you booted up. If it's not immediately apparent you could also try to post the output somewhere and link it here.

Darn, forgot to look and I don't know the exact time it happened. Well, it surely won't take long until it happens again..
 

mollipen

Member
I think the old Expose/Spaces combo was nearly perfect.

I miss those days. *cries* Remember when you could drag an app's window from one space to another from that screen? Those were good times. Now, I have to switch to that space, and then enter Mission Control in order to be able to move the window/app.

I mean, I've gotten used to the way things work now, and to be fair it's usable most of the time. I just wish the new dumbed-down version of Spaces hadn't been forced upon us.
 

Fox1304

Member
The new Safari shipped with Mountain Lion is a pain in the ass to brows GAF, using the "go to first unread" anchor.
I think it scrolls to the anchor but before any image had time to load. So when images load, they push the page down, but the scroll doesn't move. At the end, the anchor is useless since the scroll is much more up than it should.

Anyone has noticed this, or found a workaround ?
 

Cudder

Member
Maybe a stupid question, but where is the "Macintosh HD" icon that used to always be in the side bar in the Finder window? I always used to Apple-I it to see how much HD space I had left.
 
Maybe a stupid question, but where is the "Macintosh HD" icon that used to always be in the side bar in the Finder window? I always used to Apple-I it to see how much HD space I had left.

If you go into Finder preferences and go to the "sidebar" tab, i think you should be able to add it.
 
Maybe a stupid question, but where is the "Macintosh HD" icon that used to always be in the side bar in the Finder window? I always used to Apple-I it to see how much HD space I had left.

You can put it back. In Finder preferences, just pick what you want to show up there. If you have multiple hard drives, you can just get rid of the ones you don't want to display after they're there by right-clicking.

EDIT: DAMNIT WALRUS.
 
Maybe a stupid question, but where is the "Macintosh HD" icon that used to always be in the side bar in the Finder window? I always used to Apple-I it to see how much HD space I had left.

Go to Finder Preferences -> Sidebar -> Make sure hard disks is checked near the bottom of the list.

lol triple beaten.
 

Cudder

Member
If you go into Finder preferences and go to the "sidebar" tab, i think you should be able to add it.

You can put it back. In Finder preferences, just pick what you want to show up there. If you have multiple hard drives, you can just get rid of the ones you don't want to display after they're there by right-clicking.

EDIT: DAMNIT WALRUS.

Go to Finder Preferences -> Sidebar -> Make sure hard disks is checked near the bottom of the list.

lol triple beaten.

Would you guys believe me if I said I didn't even know Finder had its own Preferences? :(

Thanks guys!
 

Sean

Banned
In VLC under Settings -> Video you can uncheck the "black out other screens" option (not sure what it's called exactly but you should be able to find it). It's possible you have to also uncheck native full screen mode first in Settings -> Interface. Unfortunately I can't test it myself since I only have one screen at the moment.

Thanks, that worked a charm.
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
Does anyone know of a program to map shortcuts for the keyboard you are using?

I've got a typical windows keyboard plugged in at the moment as my MacBook is on a monitor, but it has a few keys for volume and the media play forward etc., is there a program or something built into ML that will let me use them?

The volume keys don't work but the mute button already mutes as it should, lol.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
As of version 2.0 nothing IMO. Had often a pixelated mess with earlier versions when fast forwarding or jumping to a specific point on the timeline. Used MPlayer OSX Extended during that time but am now back to using VLC because it's loading the videos faster than MPlayer OSX Extended.
If you're not using MPlayerX or MPlayer.app you're doing it wrong.
 

Tattooth

Member
Hope an update comes out soon, my 13" MBA '11 is running crazy hot now (fan will not shut up, even with NOTHING running).

Do you use Google Chrome by any chance? Check Activity Monitor, I had a process called Chrome Helper that would constantly use 100%+ of the CPU, even when Chrome wasn't running.

There is no fix for it at the moment, you have the force quit through terminal.

If that isn't the issue, it is probably something else constantly using 100 CPU.

EDIT: I have an odd issue, three finger back and forth gestures won't work unless I do another gesture before it. I don't know if that is a good way of explaining it, but it is really confusing me.
 
welp, rolled back to Lion today. not intentionally (my Lion partition got corrupted somehow, so I restored my Lion backup), but it's back. my god, it's stupid how much smoother it runs on my system than Mountain Lion.

If they update the gpu drivers in ML for the 2011's when 10.8.1 comes out in the next couple of weeks, I'll re-install. Otherwise...it's good to have that smoothness back.
 

mrkgoo

Member
SO I assume Xprotect, the built in malware checker in MAc OS X is still working in ML.

However, I have automatic Software Updates to "off". Noting that "system data files and security updates" are part of that, will I lose the xprotect updates?


Can anyone with the option checked to ON (auto updates, and down load system data files) in Security in System Preferences check what version of the Xprotect.meta.plist they have?

terminal:

Code:
defaults read /System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources/XProtect.meta Version
 

jts

...hate me...
Okay, so it has been a while since Mountain Lion and I've been using Safari 6 ever since, switching from Chrome.

Remarkable performance and lots of nice touches. I don't miss Chrome. It was sluggish, buggy, and ugly. Good riddance.

But I do miss some features. I don't miss them a lot for the most part, but here it goes:

-No URL preview. Even Safari iOS does this better (long press). This is probably the worst.
-Open last closed tabs (it's possible through History, but again I think Safari iOS does this better, with a long press on the new tab button.)
-Wish it would handle more tabs on screen.

Context menu (secondary click) stuff:
-It doesn't parse a text URL when highlighted to open it up.
-Should be able to google highlighted text in a new tab by default. Holding cmd will do it, but it's not as practical.
-Google reverse image search.
-Image properties.

Also, the Gmail extension I got for it isn't very good. It doesn't show a badge with the number of unread emails :/

None of these gripes are browser switching ones, but still, any thoughts, suggestions or stuff that I'm missing here?
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
-No URL preview. Even Safari iOS does this better (long press). This is probably the worst.
Install Ultimate Status Bar safari extension. That will give you the floating URL preview at the bottom. Or just go View/Show Status Bar for a permanent status bar with url preview?


Cmd + Z for your latest closed tab.
I think that only works with Glims, which is another thing he should install (and disable adding search engines in Glims because it's buggy in Safari 6)
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
It's a default Safari feature now, just tried it and I don't have Glims installed.
I just tried, and you're right! Glims' function is still better though, because it has undo history. It will keep reopening all the recently closed tabs if you keep pressing CMD+Z.
 

mrkgoo

Member
SO on Safari 5, I used to be able to "Show Activity Window" and see the activity for a video playing on youtube, then option-clickign that to download the .flv directly.

Show activity is now gone. I know about the developer window, but is there a way in there that shows me the direct video?
 
If I wanted to convert home videos I shot with my iPhone to a format I can eventually burn/make a DVD (I am guessing VOB format), which program do you guys recommend I use on Mac OSX?
 
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