macOS Sierra |OT| What can your Mac do now? Just ask
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What hardware? Also, did you do clean install or a simple upgrade?
What I'd do is firstly restart after that load up activity monitor and watch CPU load and see if any process or App that loads up is acting up.
I noticed people that did upgrade are having some issues with software. Example Transmission some people reported is showing insane CPU usage, however I've not seen that issue on clean install.
If you find an App is to blame remove it and try reinstalling.
The Real Abed
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If only you could do the same thing with iOS on the Plus and iPad.
Tabs was really oversold by Apple. Barely any of my third party applications support Tabs. Microsoft Office apps don't support it, and those would be the most useful cases for it. Hell, even Previews doesn't support it! What happened to all of that "almost every app will support it with no extra code" talk?
Zeyphersan
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Every app that used their window APIs
The Real Abed
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I'd bet Microsoft does their own thing with windowing, given that it's Microsoft's way of doing things. So their apps won't have support out of the box.
Preview however is a strange omission. Though isn't the sidebar with the thumbnails much more useful anyway?
Preview however is a strange omission. Though isn't the sidebar with the thumbnails much more useful anyway?
I'm on old hardware. iMac 27" Late 2009. It just made the cut. I did an upgrade rather than a clean install. Both times the lock-ups happened while looking at naked ladies on Tumblr in Safari. ☺️
I'll do those investigations you said if it happens a third time.
The sidebar shows all thumbnails of all opened documents. Switching to a specific slide of a different document means you lose the position in the current one. If you swipe up/down a few times in order to quickly get to the first/last slide of the current document, you might move too far if the thumbnails of preceding/following documents are unfolded.
Moving between slides of the current document and switching documents are two different forms of navigation. They should have different UI elements.
cjp
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Why the fuck did the update to Sierra change Energy Saver settings?
I came back to my Mac this morning expecting a download to be finished but the fucking thing was asleep. I check the settings and it's Energy Saver settings have reverted to putting it to sleep, while on power, after 10 minutes.
Apple you fucking ballbags.
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I came back to my Mac this morning expecting a download to be finished but the fucking thing was asleep. I check the settings and it's Energy Saver settings have reverted to putting it to sleep, while on power, after 10 minutes.
Apple you fucking ballbags.
/rant
LordOfChaos
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The previews seemed like Optimize Storage didn't count against your iCloud storage, which was exciting. It's probably the biggest letdown that it does. When your competitors offer far more free storage (i.e google music, google photos, Box, etc) than you on your sometimes multi thousand dollar devices, you should step it up.
Maybe even do it by product tiers. I.e, 5GB on a Mac Pro or 15" MacBook Pro? Really?
Maybe even do it by product tiers. I.e, 5GB on a Mac Pro or 15" MacBook Pro? Really?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Huh? Doesn't count against mine.
LordOfChaos
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Well, that's new
The speedups in El Capitan are worth it
It does, it probably hasn't moved anything there because you have free space on your mac. Reviews of the final build say the same
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/20/12987476/apple-macos-sierra-review
The speedups in El Capitan are worth it
It does, it probably hasn't moved anything there because you have free space on your mac. Reviews of the final build say the same
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/20/12987476/apple-macos-sierra-review
infiniteloop
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security updates?
Mr. Wonderful
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It's kind of interesting that Apple is using cloud storage as an additional memory tier.
(CPU Caches -> RAM -> Disk -> Cloud)
I wonder if this has anything to do with anticipation of consumer NVMe and then 3DXPoint and capacity stagnating for a bit as a result? Because I feel like a lot of the storage constraints are problem of the past with the capacity of modern SSDs.
(CPU Caches -> RAM -> Disk -> Cloud)
I wonder if this has anything to do with anticipation of consumer NVMe and then 3DXPoint and capacity stagnating for a bit as a result? Because I feel like a lot of the storage constraints are problem of the past with the capacity of modern SSDs.
Let's not forget that Mavericks was the last OS X/macOS to have the pre-iOS7-esque material design
Yosemite brought the (IMO) much better flat design
Putosaure
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Let's not forget that Mavericks was the last OS X/macOS to have the pre-iOS7-esque material design
Yosemite brought the (IMO) much better flat design
That's what I'll miss the most... I guess ?
That's what I'll miss the most... I guess ?
Let us know how you find the upgrade and all the new features 😁
The Real Abed
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Yeah. Preview really should have tabs.
Actually if they're going all in on tabs they really need to implement a system wide "tab preview on hover" option for all tabs. By which I mean when I mouse over a tab, after a half second it should show a preview of the window contents. Also when viewing a Window menu either in the menu bar or the Dock menu, it needs to show ALL document/page titles for the current window. Tabs are ubiquitous now but they work so badly. If a window can hold multiple documents it needs to show me a list of all those documents in the menu. It's stupid that this hasn't been done yet.
I haven't had any changes to my power settings.
Edit: Scratch that, yes, my settings were changed too. Glad you mentioned it, I didn't even notice. But only on my MacBook where it doesn't matter. My iMac didn't change at all which is good because it's a server.
My 2011 MacBook Pro is still going strong. However, with mid-2010 being the cutoff for Sierra, I wonder if the next big update will be the end of the line (maybe 2 more updates?). I considered updating earlier in the year but I'm still not thrilled with the configurations. I hope the Pros that are supposed to come out soon are more attractive.
Sounds like you're on a HDD.
Let's not forget that Mavericks was the last OS X/macOS to have the pre-iOS7-esque material design
Yosemite brought the (IMO) much better flat design
I wish iOS had transitioned to its "flat" look half as well as OS X/macOS did. Three years on from the change and they're still trying to figure out how iOS should look.
Yes, the late 2011 Macbooks are not known for their SSDs
Then put an SSD in it. I put one in my 2010 MacBook Pro. Was like a whole new machine.
LordOfChaos
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Yes, the late 2011 Macbooks are not known for their SSDs
You're 10 screws away from a 900% better compute experience. SSDs are really cheap now. Even a 100 dollar one will make that hardware sing like you didn't think it could.
Hard drives are a huge pain in 2016, any relatively modern Macbook at least should sure be upgraded. OSX in particular seems not to like mechanical drives more than other OSs I find, ever since post-SL.
I did mine in June. Yes a Time Machine backup is all you have to do. Do the backup right before you swap over the HDD for the SSD.
LordOfChaos
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Yep, just backup, install new drive, install OS fresh, restore what you want. Super easy and cheap these days. I'm not exaggerating here that it's a manyfold improvement to your compute experience, and I don't wish HDDs on OSX on my worst enemies in 2016.
SuperEpicMan
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Has anybody noticed their MacBooks taking longer to wake up from being asleep. Before I updated it was pretty much a second after pressing one of the keys, but now it seems to take much longer.
LordOfChaos
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It hung like that a few times, and once I got the error above.
badcrumble
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Fusion Drive isn't TOO bad.
LordOfChaos
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Nope, huge step up from a bare HDD.
Though it should be noted they silently downgraded the 1TB Fusion Drive to only 24GB flash. Yeah, no typo.
therealist
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My 2010 13 MBP seems to be getting much hotter after upgrading to Sierra. The fan seems to be on constantly. Does anyone else have this problem?
LordOfChaos
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Spotlight indexing probably. People report that every new OS version. If you want to expedite the process without it happening while you're using it, just leave it on and plugged in overnight.
Sounds like you maybe haven't canned air the fan and heatsinks in...6 years?
I went a step further: I crammed a Fusion Drive into my 2011 MBP by taking out the optical drive. Works like a charm.
You don't even have to install the OS fresh. After the new drive is installed and you first turn on, you can begin to install the Time Machine backup right there & then as it also installs the OS with it.
I'm not sure what 3D Coat is.
But isn't it crazy that Apple release Betas to devs and the public of their latest iOS and macOS software updates so that software can be tested for compatibility, yet so many devs don't bother and we get all these problems??
They're still tweaking macOS too.
LordOfChaos
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I think it's still recommended you fresh install the OS going from HDD to SSD for proper sector formatting to take better advantage. Small difference, but may as well.
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