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[batsnacks]

Talking about feel good Blarg, actually. Do you want to tell us why exactly are you looking Blarg as town? Right now your reasoning has been somewhat close to things like this:



You do realise the biggest thing Scum wants to do is to feel like town to other towners? You has problems with Kark again because he voted Blarg because.... science? This is related to the stuff Sorian posted about you in his reads too. You seem to be having a case of blind trust on people who act like town in your eyes.

There was supposed to be humor in the post you quoted. There was a running gag on the other forum I play on about how townies are generally happier than mafia, so you get a lot of people saying they're happy... So that's what that is about.

I usually like to keep the random/funny people around longer because I play mafia mostly for fun. I think Blarg's all caps post (I can quote if you want) was legitimately really good and really townie though, and I'm not just saying that because he defends me from some inconsequential pressure in it.

I had already previously posted about all of this but maybe you missed it or maybe you're just checking for consistency.

 

[cabot]

I mean, everybody who hasn't voted.

I'm going for Kark, I don't think I can really go for anyone else considering what happened after my claim.

Hunter

 

[Burbeting]

Thanks Cabbeh for that, although I do would have wished for Bats to post it by himself.

So the two camps right now are Karkador and batsnacks.

Everybody, tell us who you're voting for.

I don't think Karkador's actions fit the profile of a scum since his stunt put him into way too unnecessary danger, so I'm in camp batsnacks.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

There are 5 votes on batsnacks. I will likely vote for him, but 6 is getting pretty close to a majority and I don't see the need to rush.

 

[cabot]

Thanks Cabbeh for that, although I do would have wished for Bats to post it by himself.

You and me both, buddy.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I don't think Karkador's actions fit the profile of a scum since his stunt put him into way too unnecessary danger, so I'm in camp batsnacks.

I've said it already though, so keep in mind, a good mafia subverts those same expectations.

 

[Sorian]

Btw, let's not fall pray to danganronpa style duels when we can. I agree that we are Kark vs. batsnacks at the moment now but this shouldn't dissuade people from bringing up other ideas.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Btw, let's not fall pray to danganronpa style duels when we can. I agree that we are Kark vs. batsnacks at the moment now but this shouldn't dissuade people from bringing up other ideas.

I'm the other idea on the board right now, so I will very openly dissuade people from bringing that up.

 

[batsnacks]

You don't see Kark doing what I'm doing btw. Responding to people.

"bats stop mentioning you're doing pro-town things! I know you're defending yourself but... stop it anyway!"

 

[Sorian]

I'm the other idea on the board right now, so I will very openly dissuade people from bringing that up.

I'm aware

 

[Fireblend]

As I already said, I'm leaning bat. Those quotes Cabbeh posted are some seriously good digging though, and they are making me think twice... but it still feels as if Bat turned into an entirely different player at some point today. I had no issue with most of what he said early on, including the list of "forgotten people" that include me, but the weird logic with which he's handled my and others' comments today is pretty jarring and I don't want to ignore it.

 

[batsnacks]

As I already said, I'm leaning bat. Those quotes Cabbeh posted are some seriously good digging though, and they are making me think twice... but it still feels as if Bat turned into an entirely different player at some point today. I had no issue with most of what he said early on, including the list of "forgotten people" that include me, but the weird logic with which he's handled my and others' comments today is pretty jarring and I don't want to ignore it.

Please, please, PLEASE, be more specific! I can not help you with logic you think is faulty if you don't tell me what it is!

 

[Ourobolus]

As I already said, I'm leaning bat. Those quotes Cabbeh posted are some seriously good digging though, and they are making me think twice... but it still feels as if Bat turned into an entirely different player at some point today. I had no issue with most of what he said early on, including the list of "forgotten people" that include me, but the weird logic with which he's handled my and others' comments today is pretty jarring and I don't want to ignore it.

Right. Initially I took notice of his Kark bandwagon, but just kept it in the back of my mind (hence my odd concern of Salva...which is still niggling in the back of my mind for some reason), but it was the later comments and strange logic that finally made me focus on him.

 

[Karkador]

You don't see Kark doing what I'm doing btw. Responding to people.

"bats stop mentioning you're doing pro-town things! I know you're defending yourself but... stop it anyway!"

Playing MGSV, I've spent enough time in this manic thread today

 

[Ourobolus]

Playing MGSV, I've spent enough time in this manic thread today

My copy won't get here until Friday

 

[Sorian]

Please, please, PLEASE, be more specific! I can not help you with logic you think is faulty if you don't tell me what it is!

It says a lot that another player had to go through and tailor your defense for you.

 

[batsnacks]

It says a lot that another player had to go through and tailor your defense for you.

That wasn't a defense cabbeh just quoted half of my filter!

 

[Fireblend]

I'm leaving the office now btw so I won't be around for 3 hours or so.

Please, please, PLEASE, be more specific! I can not help you with logic you think is faulty if you don't tell me what it is!

I've said enough already, feel free to review my previous posts in which I've not only explained what my issues are with you, I've also said why I'm not satisfied with your justifications, which often amount to anecdotal evidence.

Catch you guys later.

 

[batsnacks]

That wasn't a defense cabbeh just quoted half of my filter!

That means my posts... SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES! Cabbeh merely reminded you!

 

[cabot]

That means my posts... SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES! Cabbeh merely reminded you!

Absolutely the wrong attitude to have. You want to show your contributions effectively? you need to effectively quote them.

This is something to really drive in your noggin for this and future games on NeoGAF. Be prepared to back up your claims, and be prepared to back them up extensively

Don't play this off as just 'Oh that's just me, the greatest contributer'. It's not good enough.

Show evidence, show feedback and open up lines of thought from earlier quotes, you need to be absolutely clear on this.

 

[batsnacks]

Absolutely the wrong attitude to have. You want to show your contributions effectively? you need to effectively quote them.

This is something to really drive in your noggin for this and future games on NeoGAF. Be prepared to back up your claims, and be prepared to back them up extensively

Don't play this off as just 'Oh that's just me, the greatest contributer'. It's not good enough.

Show evidence, show feedback and open up lines of thought from earlier quotes, you need to be absolutely clear on this.

That's not how I was trying to play it off at all but... I will keep that in mind for the future. And I thank you for the advice! If anything I thought if I made a post of 15-20 old posts it would just get me in deeper for lack of contribution. I have emphasized that I am focusing on posting things I think are important.

 

[RetroMG]

Playing MGSV, I've spent enough time in this manic thread today

Just a little over four hours until the PSN version unlocks. :\

 

[cabot]

That's not how I was trying to play it off at all but... I will keep that in mind for the future. And I thank you for the advice! If anything I thought if I made a post of 15-20 old posts it would just get me in deeper for lack of contribution. I have emphasized that I am focusing on posting things I think are important.

Trust me, I've done a few megaposts already and this is only my second game. It's useful and more often than not people appreciate them very much.

It can also offer a bit of insight on your end, going back and picking up stuff you may have missed before.

 

[Timeaisis]

Just a little over four hours until the PSN version unlocks. :\

Sony fanboy! Sony fanboy! Get him!

Spoiler

Mine is in the mail

 

[RetroMG]

Ouro and Retro have been the only real voices of reason for today

God, we're so screwed.

RetroMG [m] - Retro came in here, dropped some truth and then left again. Once I see how this whole batsnacks thing shakes out then I'll have a better read on Retro, or he could just post more. Both would help. Verdict: Town leaning null

I'm still here, I just don't have much to say right now. Batsnacks is where my vote goes. Nothing so far has made me want to change that. Ouro has listed out the same reasoning I came to, pretty much point for point.

I could talk about Metal Gear, if it would help.

 

[batsnacks]

Trust me, I've done a few megaposts already and this is only my second game. It's useful and more often than not people appreciate them very much.

It can also offer a bit of insight on your end, going back and picking up stuff you may have missed before.

More background: quoting too many posts is usually a sign of weakness in the other games I've played on. It is very easy to grab a bunch of quotes, post as many easy thoughts on them, and get away with an unnecessarily huge post. I am used to people expecting brevity... an exact quote is rarely needed because no one is going to lie about something so easily verified.

 

[RetroMG]

Oh, and I went back and looked into Roy, since I didn't have notes on him earlier. I didn't really come up with anything that pushes me one way or the other. A lot of his posts were either fluff or discussing mechanics. But I'm willing to give fluff the benefit of the doubt for day one.

 

[Ourobolus]

More background: quoting too many posts is usually a sign of weakness in the other games I've played on. It is very easy to grab a bunch of quotes, post as many easy thoughts on them, and get away with an unnecessarily huge post. I am used to people expecting brevity... an exact quote is rarely needed because no one is going to lie about something so easily verified.

Look, I've got no personal vendetta against you, so here you go:

At least around here, content is key. If you can keep it brief but relevant, that's ok. But being able to go back and point out inconsistencies in logic is the way to go - typically that includes quoting a bunch of posts. Cite your sources, if you will. If you do it once, sure, you can refer others back to that specific post, but getting that first read on the player by listing all of the problems you have with their reasoning is key.

 

[Sorian]

Oh, and I went back and looked into Roy, since I didn't have notes on him earlier. I didn't really come up with anything that pushes me one way or the other. A lot of his posts were either fluff or discussing mechanics. But I'm willing to give fluff the benefit of the doubt for day one.

What you are trying to say is that if we lynch Roy then we can share a pillow while waiting in line?

 

[RetroMG]

What you are trying to say is that if we lynch Roy then we can share a pillow while waiting in line?

Sure, but hands off my green blanket. It's MINE.

 

[batsnacks]

Look, I've got no personal vendetta against you, so here you go:

At least around here, content is key. If you can keep it brief but relevant, that's ok. But being able to go back and point out inconsistencies in logic is the way to go - typically that includes quoting a bunch of posts. Cite your sources, if you will. If you do it once, sure, you can refer others back to that specific post, but getting that first read on the player by listing all of the problems you have with their reasoning is key.

I made the best response I could to all the grievances I could find from you:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=177088607&postcount=1144
I mean I really can't do better until I know more from you.

 

[RetroMG]

Could we have a vote count, please?

 

[Ourobolus]

Could we have a vote count, please?

Here's what I have so far...I think it's up to date.

Player			Day 1
cabbeh	
TheGoddamn	
roytheone		Karkador
Darryl			LaunchpadMcQ
Sorian			batsnacks
batsnacks		Karkador
Fireblend	
Karkador		batsnacks
Burbeting		batsnacks
SalvaPot		cabbeh
Ourobolus		batsnacks
LaunchpadMcQ		Karkador
Lone_Prodigy	
Blargonaut		LaunchpadMcQ
RetroMG			batsnacks

 

[Sorian]

Could we have a vote count, please?

There's a Google doc early on in the thread (first or second post) that they are keeping updated. I'm on mobile so linking would be a pain, sorry.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Playing MGSV, I've spent enough time in this manic thread today

Just a little over four hours until the PSN version unlocks. :\

Steam version doesn't unlock until 12 PM EST... and there's no preload.

*thousand-yard stare*

Could we have a vote count, please?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...W__NmW6b1E6fooVjksGv_hOr0/edit#gid=1758992185

 

[RetroMG]

Here's what I have so far...I think it's up to date.

There's a Google doc early on in the thread (first or second post) that they are keeping updated. I'm on mobile so linking would be a pain, sorry

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...W__NmW6b1E6fooVjksGv_hOr0/edit#gid=1758992185

Thanks. I'll keep an eye there in the future.

Steam version doesn't unlock until 12 PM EST... and there's no preload.

*thousand-yard stare*

Ouch. I feel your pain. I'm going to pick up the Steam version eventually for that Custom Music support and eventual mods, but I had PSN gift cards, so I grabbed it there first.

 

[batsnacks]

I'm fixing to go to BED so...

I dare 1 more person to vote me. Watch how I burn this thread, and all my detractors, to the ground!

DO IT!

I DARE YA!

DO IT!

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I'm fixing to go to BED so...

I dare 1 more person to vote me. Watch how I burn this thread, and all my detractors, to the ground!

DO IT!

I DARE YA!

DO IT!

Would you guys call me out if I voted for him? I kinda wanna see what happens.

 

[batsnacks]

Would you guys call me out if I voted for him? I kinda wanna see what happens.

I will.

 

[Ourobolus]

Would you guys call me out if I voted for him? I kinda wanna see what happens.

Not at alll.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

VOTE: batsnacks

I'm doing this because I'm hoping you can save yourself.

 

[Ourobolus]

GUYS DID YOU SEE WHAT LAUNCH JUST DID

 

[batsnacks]

I have come to the conclusion that my detractors are not interested in neither logic nor reason and there is NOTHING MORE THAT I COULD HAVE DONE TO PERSUADE THEM OTHERWISE!

I have given an OUTSTANDING effort toward this game and my fellow townies in it!

I'm the jailor. You had all the tools to make this claim unnecessary, but you didn't use them! FOR SHAME!

Rather than let myself be instant majoritied by Europeans a few hours from now, I have decided to claim!

 

[Ourobolus]

There's a jailer in the nintendo line?

 

[Sorian]

I have come to the conclusion that my detractors are not interested in neither logic nor reason and there is NOTHING MORE THAT I COULD HAVE DONE TO PERSUADE THEM OTHERWISE!

I have given an OUTSTANDING effort toward this game and my fellow townies in it!

I'm the jailor. You had all the tools to make this claim unnecessary, but you didn't use them! FOR SHAME!

Rather than let myself be instant majoritied by Europeans a few hours from now, I have decided to claim!

Look what you did Launch, god damn it. Hmm, what's your role name?

 

[Blargonaut]

Fight with me on why I should lynch Launch instead of batsnacks.

You know... fighting is overrated. How about a masterfully adapted, heartwarming interactive experience instead?

I call it, "Filler o' Fish". Enjoy.

*presses X*

---​

CUE MUSIC.​

PROLOGUE.​

SCENE.​

Crowd waiting in line at the store. The windows are tinted.

Improv.

CURTAINS.​

SCENE END.​

PROLOGUE END.​

ACT 1.​

SCENE.​

Store interior. Occupants are vertically planking.

I'm EVERYBODY ELSE melting

*gurgle*

ᵇᶫᶫᵉʰʰʰ ʰᵃᶫᵖ, ʰᵃᵃᵃᶫᶫᶫᵖ

I suddenly feel good about today

Share in my good feelings everyone

VOTE: Karkador

batsnacks: lol k

I'll share, right after you explain this.

Lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum Darryl sit a minute

You're pretty good, Kark, but awooga amirite

Why am I in this net?

I feel good

I will take the blame if I feel bad

this is just babytown frolics

Don't feel bad, I feel good and everyone who feels good with me will feel good and won't feel bad

I'd be happy to feel good with you if you would give me something to go on.

You'd like that, wouldn't you?

Indeed I would.

I bet you would.

I bet you bet I would.

CURTAINS.​

SCENE END.​

ACT 1 END.​

INTERMISSION.​

You know what would be super-convenient and pro-Fun? If I had edited the quote links to lead to each of the respective user posts that my dramatized lines of dialogue symbolize. Well, sorry, my production budget was tight, k, so enjoy dat homework

ACT 2.​

SCENE.​

Bathroom interior, single toilet. KARKADOR sits upon it, surrounded. It is dark and stormy.

How about now?

...

See, Ourobolus EVERYBODY ELSE, you're KARKADOR IS so experienced at feeling good that you KARKADOR can't even answer me EVERYBODY ELSE straight away because you KARKADOR must be feeling so good that you KARKADOR feel bad about telling me EVERYBODY ELSE how good you KARKADOR feel.

Please tell me, what do I do now that I feel good?

god can't a guy just take a shit

No, because it smells bad and therefore it makes me feel bad, so I feel the need to walk into the bathroom with you and sniff all of it, absolutely sniff all of it because you're so good at making me feel bad that it makes me feel good about feeling bad

EVERYBODY ELSE:

LAUNCHPADMCQ shoves KARKADOR off toilet; EVERYBODY ELSE crowds around menacingly as lights dim and music fades to silence. Thunderclap.

CURTAINS.​

SCENE END.​

ACT 2 END.​

---​

DEVELOPERS' COMMENTARY:

UNVOTE: Karkador

VOTE: LaunchpadMcQ

Whose line is it anyway?

Not mine m8

Because I suck at improv and therefore you must be escorted off the premises for having been the subject of and subject to my performance

Just as valid as any other Day 1 reason, really

Why am I still awake

Again

Kark has a PR.

I'm about to kill something.

UNVOTE

I reread that batsnacks post above and I agree with these points a lot.

I'm still voting Kark.

OH. HELL. NO.

DARRYL, HOLD MY FUCK.

FIRST, YOU TAKE KARKADOR'S BAIT, PERSONALLY ENABLING HIM TO BE A WHOLE-DAY-AFFAIR CONVERSATION PIECE; THAT'S FINE, OKAY, I GET IT, IT WAS A MOVE THAT DEFINITELY DESERVED DISCUSSION-

BUT THEN, YOU PULL OUT ON THE LAST DAY? BY TELLING ME THAT YOUR REASON IS BECAUSE YOU'VE SOMEHOW CONFIRMED THAT KARKADOR HAS A POWER ROLE? YOU BETTER EXPLAIN TO MY LAYMAN'S ASS HOW EXACTLY YOU CAME TO THAT CONVENIENT CONCLUSION THROUGH KARKADOR'S POSTS, STEP-BY-FUNNING-STEP, MR. FLIP-FLOPPER.

TELLING ME YOU'VE PUBLICLY OUTED AND CONFIRMED A POWER ROLE ON DAY 1? IS THAT IT?

1. YOU TAKE KARKADOR'S BAIT.
2. YOU PUBLICLY GLORIFY KARKADOR BY CONSTANTLY STRESSING HOW MUCH OF AN EXPERIENCED PLAYER HE IS.
3. YOU BACK OUT BECAUSE YOU SOMEHOW CONFIRMED MR. "VETERAN" KARKADOR HAS A POWER ROLE.

CONGRATULATIONS, LAUNCHPADMCQ, YOU DID IT. YOU GOT IN THE ROBOT. HAVE SOME CONFETTI. *glitter sprinkle*

AND NOW, YOU HELP THE REST SHIFT THE BLAME ONTO BATSNACKS?

HELP ME UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY PLEASE, WHY DON'T WE LYNCH YOU?

WHY NOT?

WHY? NOT?

WHY ARE THE REST OF YOU LETTING HIM SLIDE?

LAUNCHPADMCQ, YOU, YOU BETTER KEEP YOUR VOTE ON KARKADOR, LAUNCHPADMCQ, IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU. WE'RE ON THE FURY ROAD NOW.

I SWEAR, IF MR. "POWER ROLE" KARKADOR DIES TONIGHT AND YOU SURVIVE TODAY, I KNOW FULL DAMN WELL WHAT I'M GOING TO BE EATING FOR DINNER

FAKE EDIT:

I TOOK TIME TYPING THIS AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE DECIDED TO VOTE FOR KARKADOR AGAIN.

GOOD. YOU BETTER.

AND KEEP IT THERE.

Just so we can stop revisiting it, me thinking Kark has a PR and unvoting are unrelated. I make posts sporadically, if it wasn't obvious, and I don't always consider how the structure comes off.

Also, I very clearly stated that the gesture was to buy some goodwill with Kark so that he can stop slandering me.

Oh, I just got it lol

VOTE: Karkador

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

VOTE: Karkador

before someone turbos this guy

 

[RetroMG]

Hi, Blarg. Welcome back.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

An amazing post from Blarg. I'm dying.

 

[Sorian]

Blarg, if only you had made that post like 5 minutes earlier.