QuantumBro
Banned
An actual plan that will gain us information either way? What is going on, guys?
Well in order for the plan to vote, people need to take their vote off of Kark.
To get the ball rolling:
Vote: Rembrandt
Well in order for the plan to vote, people need to take their vote off of Kark.
To get the ball rolling:
Vote: Rembrandt
AbsolutBro
Member
An actual plan that will gain us information either way? What is going on, guys?
Going to be honest, most of this is still going over my head.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Re: MattyG, I'll use my man on the inside to find out his ban length and proceed from there. There may need to be a replacement, yes.
shurrrg I don't know, if y'all think it's wise to keep serial killer Karkador alive, then so be it.
but sooner or later, he's gonna have to go.
vote: crab
no wait
vote: rembrandt
because QuantumBro voted for this guy and I'm just gonna follow his lead.
I might change my vote again before the deadline tomorrow.
but sooner or later, he's gonna have to go.
vote: crab
no wait
vote: rembrandt
because QuantumBro voted for this guy and I'm just gonna follow his lead.
I might change my vote again before the deadline tomorrow.
QuantumBro
Banned
Well he hasn't posted at all during this day period and Palmer noted earlier that he has less posts in this thread than Barry, who died during the first night. At the very least, maybe this will inspire him to start posting.
I'm open to other suggestions as well if you have any.
I informally nominated pants earlier, because of his reactions to my behavior.
I mean, going for someone because they have the fewest posts is literally scraping the bottom of the barrel for a reason.
QuantumBro
Banned
We just don't have any clear evidence against someone in particular, any vote is a guess right now. I'm half tempted to start a lynch against RNH or ultron to force them to reveal the remaining names.
Zippedpinhead
Member
I like this plan, I'm glad to be apart of it, let's do it!
vote=Rembrandt
vote=Rembrandt
What? No. This is nuts.
We don't need the guy that has confessed to be gradually murdering us all to be alive tonight to execute some sort of plan just because he totally promises he'll help us. If we have actual organization with our roles and the information gains possible from them we can win. But not if the guy that has never killed a Mafia member keeps taking potshots, misses, and makes the game progress at double speed.
We don't even know he's actually neutral! He had everyone fooled about being the doctor so why the hell should trust that he's neutral now? Even money he's Mafia trying one last ditch effort to get on our good side after his own murdering blew his previous cover!
Vote: Karkador
We don't need the guy that has confessed to be gradually murdering us all to be alive tonight to execute some sort of plan just because he totally promises he'll help us. If we have actual organization with our roles and the information gains possible from them we can win. But not if the guy that has never killed a Mafia member keeps taking potshots, misses, and makes the game progress at double speed.
We don't even know he's actually neutral! He had everyone fooled about being the doctor so why the hell should trust that he's neutral now? Even money he's Mafia trying one last ditch effort to get on our good side after his own murdering blew his previous cover!
Vote: Karkador
This is true, and it's also true that the Town has yet to lynch a single Mafia - and they're certainly laughing at us. This is why I really want to get one before I go.
You'll see soon enough that I'm neutral. Whether you see it now, or after I'm dead, makes little difference to me - but I wanna kill at least one Mafia. That's all I ask for.
Now, I have vouched for you - A LOT. I still think that most of your credibility in this game currently stands from how much I've vouched for you. You're even getting MORE credibility by me revealing that there was, in fact, something fishy going on with me. Doesn't calling me Mafia undermine your own credibility, though?
I mean, I know that a Mafia player had to have attacked you on the night that nin1000 saved you, but with a switcher around, I can't completely rule out that you were the Mafia's intended target.
Even if I knew one hundred percent you were neutral I'd still vote to kill you. We finally have some semblance of organization. At least some of the people involved in the plan are probably lying, but at least it is a start. To leverage some plan (and the information gained from it succeeding or from it failing) we need to slow the game down and not let you stay out there swinging an axe around at your whim.
I'm not guaranteed a hit, anyhow. In fact, I've only hit half of the time.
Do you not find the way people are voting to be suspicious?
Zippedpinhead
Member
Karkador, if two tourists die tonight....
And yes, I'd like to think I'm paying attention, BUT your track record leaves a lot to be desired...
If we leave Karkador alive, the mafia has to make a choice. Block kark, or block ultron/RNH?
With quantum's role going first, they can't block him, and it means they go in a bit blind on what to target with the hit and with the block.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Seriously Karkador, post 496, I stated we needed to kill a nuetral killer type. This is an awefully big risk.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Give us a list of three people who you are thinking of killing tonight.
If a mafia person is on that list, they will probably block you Vs block ultron/RNH. This gets us a good shot at learning something.
Exactly.
Karkador has been lying to us before. What makes you think he is telling the full truth now? The only reason he told us about his role was because he blew his cover by taking out the real Doctor.
I don't think he is Mafia but I still think he has some special winning condition he is not telling us about.
Only ~2 hours left today.
Current votes: (please check if I've made a mistake)
Karkador: MattyG, Lord of Castamere, traube, Karkador, ultron87, pants
Rembrandt: QuantumBro, kingkitty, Zippedpinhead, Palmer_v1, Timeaisis, StayDead
So at the moment it is a draw with 6 - 6.
I'd also like to point out that Karkador, the Serial Killer, voted for himself. So he most likely will change his vote in his favour before the day ends.
Current votes: (please check if I've made a mistake)
Karkador: MattyG, Lord of Castamere, traube, Karkador, ultron87, pants
Rembrandt: QuantumBro, kingkitty, Zippedpinhead, Palmer_v1, Timeaisis, StayDead
So at the moment it is a draw with 6 - 6.
I'd also like to point out that Karkador, the Serial Killer, voted for himself. So he most likely will change his vote in his favour before the day ends.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Current Votes:
Karkador - 6 (Karkador, Traube, MattyG, Lord of Castamere, Pants, Ultron87)
Rembrandt- 6 (Timeaisis, Palmerv1, Kingkitty, ZippedinHead, Staydead, Quantumbro)
2 hours 8 minutes until day end.
Karkador - 6 (Karkador, Traube, MattyG, Lord of Castamere, Pants, Ultron87)
Rembrandt- 6 (Timeaisis, Palmerv1, Kingkitty, ZippedinHead, Staydead, Quantumbro)
2 hours 8 minutes until day end.
It's true, but I'm kind of inclined to give him a chance. We'll know tomorrow whether or not he can be trusted, and we can make our move against him then. He could be an asset if he truly is neutral.
Also, why the hell would he reveal he was the serial killer anyway? What does that gain him other than random suspicion? He could have just admitted to being a town-aligned vigilante instead and explained the lying away by not wanting to admit to accidentally killing townies. Admitting to being the serial killer seems like an act of good faith on his part.
That being said, I still don't know where I stand. I like the current plan we got, and I don't have anyone better to lynch.
The risk of Karkador screwing the town either A) entirely by accident by guessing wrong B) out of spite because he can't possibly win or C) because he is totally Mafia just screwing with us is COLOSSAL. Even if he is being entirely genuine with us he is what, maybe 40% to hit a Mafia? If two Townspeople die tomorrow that means we are forced to use our lynch on Karkador. So we can't even use anything we gain from any sort of organized roll usage because we have to kill the killer we left alive.
He revealed he was the Serial Killer because pretending to be a Doctor as the Town Vigilante makes zero sense. It was his only option whether he is a mafia or serial killer.
He revealed he was the Serial Killer because pretending to be a Doctor as the Town Vigilante makes zero sense. It was his only option whether he is a mafia or serial killer.
See the quoted posts above, said in my general direction, before any of this any of this unfolded.
Mafia know, at least in a rudimentary way, that I'm not one of them (hence the "nor do I think everyone lying is mafia" comment), yet they are well aware by that point that there is a second killer not affiliated with them.
I haven't really kept up: Did the mafia ever try to kill him? I mean, he was pretending to be the doctor, pretty much the ultimate target. If I was mafia, that's a guy I'd want gone quickly.
He claims he was attacked on a night but has extra lives against night kills.
Does that fit with what we know? I must admit I never cared too much for the whole "I can check whether someone targeted someone who can target someone" talk.
I was targeted N4, the night before I roleclaimed
pants
Member
You didn't even post on that page, yet you say it was about you. Bollocks. You try to imply that I'm mafia for simply following the conversation. Bollocks. And the best part - by what logic do you think if I was mafia would I be dropping hints to help instead of laughing all the way to the bank behind closed doors? what.
Guys, please. Vote him off, dont do this.
So who were the two people you thought were lying?
The fact that nobody died N5, and I claimed to be the Doctor, immediately made the discussion partially about me, because I successfully healed.
I mean, I think it would be helpful to talk about what actually happened that night, or Night 2.
Ah, okay, thanks for the info.
QuantumBro
Banned
Kark, you might want to unvote yourself in the next half hour.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Between 12 and 18
QuantumBro
Banned
Lord of Castamere
Member
I'm kinda getting getting tired of people not even showing up to vote. Rembrandt couldn't even be bothered to make an appearance at his execution.
Regardless of what happens today, the person who wasn't lynched will be my default vote tomorrow. In my eyes, both deserve to die.
Regardless of what happens today, the person who wasn't lynched will be my default vote tomorrow. In my eyes, both deserve to die.
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