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EsotericManiac
Banned
They should really make those comic book promos foil
I'm guessing most people figured Supreme Verdict wouldn't show up. Because I don't know how any of these decks can beat that card
At the local level judges are miserable about this because they're generally terrible players themselves and thus have absolutely no capability of judging a board state when players actually need time to analyze it.
Verdict doesn't do jack against G/W or RDW.
Also, super strange to see WOTC using a comic book to reprint Legacy cards
They've done this with IDW a few times now. They get some cool art through this too.
http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Promotional_cards#IDW_Comics
Verdict existing will add plenty of turns to games where the aggro player is concerned about emptying their hand and getting completely blown out.
I had fifteen in my cart at $3 each
fuck
Never wait on blatantly good cards, I guess. (But a day 1 deck making a card spike is more than a little silly.)
I was ahead of the curve!!
Are you not watching the Pro tour? The only cards not on the lists are my defensive choices and the clones. I have since switched the skins for cyclonic rifts.
Scythesurge
Member
People were practically throwing 2 Master of Waves and an Ashiok on release day, so I ended up with 4 Master of Waves and now I have 4 Ashiok too, which I'm pretty stoked about.
I am, why?
Your original response was wrong if you are paying any attention.
It was a play on the popularity of the deck at the Pro Tour. I was saying I was ahead of the curve by quoting my post from a week or two back. Did you watch Sam Black? The creature package is there, we disagree on the defense. But as I mentioned, I have since switched out skins for cyclonic rifts. I would love to continue to the conversation. =D
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think that's what he was getting at at all.
keep in mind for speculators:
pro tour price spikes, historically speaking, mean nothing in the long term. I'm only pissed at myself for not buying those Wavves because I would've been able to pawn them off now for ~15-20 each while the mtgsalvation/reddit community is drooling all over them, making myself a few hundred bucks with little to no effort. While there's a chance the card will become a standard staple and increase even more in price, that really has yet to be determined. It's only day 1, and this price jump is pure speculation. There's no testing or data behind it, at least none the public has access to.
wolfir silverheart was selling for 12 euros on the floor at PT avacyn restored, and a jump ensued in "the real world" because people are too dumb to realize that block constructed isn't standard.
dungeon geist was in the ~$5 range on tcgplayer after pro tour dark ascension
I think some day 1 deck at PT RTR is what caused nivmagus elemental to jump to a fuckload, then we all know what happened.
do not buy any cards until you see them performing on day 2, unless you plan to make a speculation buy and dump them immediately. Most of the price changes you see will be by, well, the less intelligent portion of the speculator market.
tl;dr version, because if you didn't read this you probably aren't the type to unload spec buys in time:
DO NOT BUY CARDS DUE TO (day 1) PRO TOUR HYPE EVER EVER EVER.
pro tour price spikes, historically speaking, mean nothing in the long term. I'm only pissed at myself for not buying those Wavves because I would've been able to pawn them off now for ~15-20 each while the mtgsalvation/reddit community is drooling all over them, making myself a few hundred bucks with little to no effort. While there's a chance the card will become a standard staple and increase even more in price, that really has yet to be determined. It's only day 1, and this price jump is pure speculation. There's no testing or data behind it, at least none the public has access to.
wolfir silverheart was selling for 12 euros on the floor at PT avacyn restored, and a jump ensued in "the real world" because people are too dumb to realize that block constructed isn't standard.
dungeon geist was in the ~$5 range on tcgplayer after pro tour dark ascension
I think some day 1 deck at PT RTR is what caused nivmagus elemental to jump to a fuckload, then we all know what happened.
do not buy any cards until you see them performing on day 2, unless you plan to make a speculation buy and dump them immediately. Most of the price changes you see will be by, well, the less intelligent portion of the speculator market.
tl;dr version, because if you didn't read this you probably aren't the type to unload spec buys in time:
DO NOT BUY CARDS DUE TO (day 1) PRO TOUR HYPE EVER EVER EVER.
This is true. I would avoid Master of Waves no way it can stay on this trajectory. I got mine at 4 a pop and they are breaking 20 today.
EsotericManiac
Banned
everyone is watching the PT to know what to play. people will be going to FNM tonight and sleeving these decks up. PTs always have this effect on the format.
people making purchases today aren't speculating. they just want to play what the pros are
people making purchases today aren't speculating. they just want to play what the pros are
then they realize the cards they're buying from day 1 lists aren't performing, sell them to the store, and the cycle begins anew.
It's still speculation if they're buying decks to "play what the pros are playing" without knowing the lists are good yet. It happens every single pro tour. Just a warning.
(also, master of wavves' price spike is 90+% speculation, 10% "oh fuck I want to play this so I better buy now")
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
What's MOW a piece in?
yeah, everyone just knew
The mono-blue devotion deck most of StarCity and the French team are playing
Some deck that was already called shit on PT stream so expect MOW to be 4 bucks tomorrow :b
Isn't insider trading wonderful? /rolleyes The people bragging about this are asshats of the highest degree.
EsotericManiac
Banned
like, wouldn't you have to dump all your MOWs today in order to brag?
people that had a ton of frost titans before they jumped bragged, but then they held onto them when they weren't worth anything anymore
people that had a ton of frost titans before they jumped bragged, but then they held onto them when they weren't worth anything anymore
To be fair, the people bragging about this are doing it on quietspeculation.
Asshats.
Very few people on QS have any idea what they're talking about. The gods had bigger speculation threads than any other mythics, just like every other forum. But fuck, those idiots sure know how to raise prices of random cards for no reason.
The salt can't help but flow today. Quick, edit this post too and act above it all. <3
I mean, I got a playset of Masters last night after Joe Spanier accidentally tweeted a pick of the Mono-U deck. I had been hearing rumblings from people, but since I didn't know anyone testing on the 2 teams (cough SCG) that went with the deck, I didn't pull the trigger until then.
I only had 15 in my cart because it's a pet card, something that I knew would perform at FNM but I'd never take to a major event until a better player 'broke' it.
Now I have to wait a few months to buy it.
it's not salt lol - nobody will get anything out of an actual discussion is all
EsotericManiac
Banned
going to check out this vintage event tomorrow. are there any established decks that use a base like RUG delver, UR delver, or U/W blade/miracles that I could convert into a vintage deck with 10 or so proxies?
never played vintage before
never played vintage before
That's the thing that annoys me most. Stupid pros, using cards I like.
he stopped
your turn
pros are meaaaaan
always making me pay money for things I like playing ;.;
1-day ebay auction starting at 0.01, if you have the feedback for it. That way, if the price spikes even more day 2, you're covered.
If it doesn't spike at all, people will bid anyway, and you're covered.
In general, the Standard PT is going to do more to define the meta than anything. I actually think that SCG should not run standard opens before the PT, because any player qualified or testing isn't going to be able to play their deck.
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