This deck looks amazing and expensive as hell lol.
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This deck looks amazing and expensive as hell lol.
blindrocket
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My Selesnya deck costs more than that and likely would lose to it. sadface
blindrocket
Member
Also, I saw some new Born of the Gods artwork and I expect there will be a Minotaur god.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
StarCow
So, Chinese counterfeits are getting a lot better.
http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1uoccf/beware_very_accurate_fake_cards_from_china_and/
Certain fonts are slightly too thin on certain cards -- mostly ones from newer sets -- and dot matrix printers aren't being used. Aside from that, the copies are near-perfect, and most people can't tell.
This could be.... interesting for tournaments. It's possible to build legacy decks like this for next to nothing, and unless judges start carrying jeweler's loupes, you aren't getting caught. What are they going to do, rip your card in half to make sure they see the correct blue line?
I'm guessing this is the reasoning for the new (ugly as fuck) font, the holograms on rares, etc.... but it'll always be a concern for older cards, and it's kind of scary.
What's really baffling to me is that a lot of people on /r/magicTCG seem to think this is good for the game.
323 upvotes, from someone who has a very interesting definition of 'trading card game':
Because collectors don't matter: only I do! (+9)
Yeah man, fuck the secondary market! Anarchy! Let's collapse the worth of every LGS's stock! (+107)
This guy can't buy into modern because of the reserve list, apparently. (+70)
Attempts to point out that modern's creation was partially due to reserve list concerns were buried.
http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1uoccf/beware_very_accurate_fake_cards_from_china_and/
Certain fonts are slightly too thin on certain cards -- mostly ones from newer sets -- and dot matrix printers aren't being used. Aside from that, the copies are near-perfect, and most people can't tell.
This could be.... interesting for tournaments. It's possible to build legacy decks like this for next to nothing, and unless judges start carrying jeweler's loupes, you aren't getting caught. What are they going to do, rip your card in half to make sure they see the correct blue line?
I'm guessing this is the reasoning for the new (ugly as fuck) font, the holograms on rares, etc.... but it'll always be a concern for older cards, and it's kind of scary.
What's really baffling to me is that a lot of people on /r/magicTCG seem to think this is good for the game.
323 upvotes, from someone who has a very interesting definition of 'trading card game':
Because collectors don't matter: only I do! (+9)
Yeah man, fuck the secondary market! Anarchy! Let's collapse the worth of every LGS's stock! (+107)
This guy can't buy into modern because of the reserve list, apparently. (+70)
Attempts to point out that modern's creation was partially due to reserve list concerns were buried.
http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1uoccf/beware_very_accurate_fake_cards_from_china_and/
http://polishtamales.tumblr.com/post/72642482887
This is a big problem. Also explains the extreme nature of the M15 change, which I now feel much better about, knowing that there was a very valid reason behind making the cards look like ass.
edit: lol beaten by a minute.
http://polishtamales.tumblr.com/post/72642482887
This is a big problem. Also explains the extreme nature of the M15 change, which I now feel much better about, knowing that there was a very valid reason behind making the cards look like ass.
edit: lol beaten by a minute.
blindrocket
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I've seen this news being posted on Tumblr.
It's kind of scary for me who in the near future will be dropping 400+ dollars on Tarmogoyf but have to be concerned whether or not it's a legit card.
It's kind of scary for me who in the near future will be dropping 400+ dollars on Tarmogoyf but have to be concerned whether or not it's a legit card.
I'm pretty sure Reddit just wants Magic to become Yu-Gi-Oh.
Every standard season there's one $100+ card, everything else is cheap as fuck, and the $100 card is reprinted as a common a year later.
Doesn't that sound great, guys? No collectors, no secondary market! LGSes can't sell singles at all anymore!
jesus fucking christ the entitlement in those posts
Every standard season there's one $100+ card, everything else is cheap as fuck, and the $100 card is reprinted as a common a year later.
Doesn't that sound great, guys? No collectors, no secondary market! LGSes can't sell singles at all anymore!
jesus fucking christ the entitlement in those posts
Pharika (the B/G Gorgon Goddess) Xenagos (G/R Satyr god) and Iroas (R/W Centaur God) have had their art posted and are also very likely to be in Born of the Gods.
Kiora's profile is up as well, and a return to Zendikar is 99% confirmed now.
I mean, Rosewater wasn't asking about Annhilator/Eldrazi 6 months ago for no reason.
It'll be 2015's fall release.
I mean, Rosewater wasn't asking about Annhilator/Eldrazi 6 months ago for no reason.
It'll be 2015's fall release.
I should have said 99% up from 98%
."God's Beard!"
Member
Fuck the counterfeiters, but fuck the collectors, too. Or fuck Wizards for not letting you buy cards that rotate out directly from their website, I dunno.
I mean, it's a trading card game, so I can't complain about the secondary market too much but goddamn it took me forever to trade enough cards from drafting to make an esper control deck. Finally did though.
Fucking 16 dual lands.
Traded(over time):
2 Elspeth
1 Foil Elspeth
1 Foil Vraska
1 Domri Rade
4 Noble Hierarchs(which I got from trading pokemon cards lol)
2 Griselbrand
1 Lotus Petal
1 Snapcaster Mage
I mean, it's a trading card game, so I can't complain about the secondary market too much but goddamn it took me forever to trade enough cards from drafting to make an esper control deck. Finally did though.
Fucking 16 dual lands.
Traded(over time):
2 Elspeth
1 Foil Elspeth
1 Foil Vraska
1 Domri Rade
4 Noble Hierarchs(which I got from trading pokemon cards lol)
2 Griselbrand
1 Lotus Petal
1 Snapcaster Mage
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";96359840]Fuck the counterfeiters, but fuck the collectors, too
[/QUOTE]
it seems kind of weird to be mad at people for wanting to collect a collectible product
unless you mean the collectors who pressured WoTC to preserve the reserve list
... in that case, yes, fuck those guys.
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it seems kind of weird to be mad at people for wanting to collect a collectible product
unless you mean the collectors who pressured WoTC to preserve the reserve list
... in that case, yes, fuck those guys.
EsotericManiac
Banned
I can't imagine how anyone thinks counterfeiting is a good thing. They are clearly trying to pass it off as original. What if you paid stupid money for tarmogoyfs that were fake? Would you try to pawn them off on someone else?
Well those counterfeits sure are unfortunate. If they start coming over in mass it might make me stop buying cards from Ebay auctions and only stick to the bigger sites for buying stuff. And trading becomes a very icky process.
People seem to be thinking of this in terms of a "fuck the Reserve List and collectors, cheap duals and mythics for all!" way. That is comically short sighted.
People seem to be thinking of this in terms of a "fuck the Reserve List and collectors, cheap duals and mythics for all!" way. That is comically short sighted.
blindrocket
Member
Yup, I remember returning to Zendikar being discussed six months ago.
EDIT: Kiora from Zendikar.. interesting
I found a few of the distributors/partners for the factory making these.
Minimum orders are 1000 sets of 50-58 cards. There are probably tons of these out there already.
Time to buy a jewler's loupe, I guess.
edit: I would feel so fucking bad if I was playing against someone in a tournament who had fake cards. I mean, do you report them to the judge and get your free win? They might not even know. I'd feel terrible calling a judge over for that.
People will bring loupes to the tournament to get free wins off opponents who have counterfeit cards, though. If any lurkers are thinking of tracking down the distributors to get their own fakes, they should probably keep that in mind....
hopefully that'll be enough to dissuade people from bringing these to major events.
"God's Beard!"
Member
I just hate trading hundreds of dollars worth of cards for fucking lands. But that's wizards' fault more than anything. Mostly.
EsotericManiac
Banned
Uh oh.
Are you saying I need to dump my huge collection of zendikar lands?
Are you saying I need to dump my huge collection of zendikar lands?
"God's Beard!"
Member
Oh I don't care about those ugly things. If it were up to me, the basic land slot for every core set booster would have a 1/6 chance of being a fetchland and 1/24 chance of being a shock.
EsotericManiac
Banned
Zendikar lands are awesome. Only second to unhinged.
I imagine the art would be different but I think the value would still drop
I imagine the art would be different but I think the value would still drop
goddamnit haly
What happened what did I do?
you're going to make my counterfeit MTGO cards worthless by crashing the market of the real ones
(Can you imagine if this news was followed up by a duping glitch on MTGO? These counterfeits are making it terrifyingly obvious how fragile the MTG economy is.)
blindrocket
Member
I still lack some paper fetchlands.
Arid Mesa
Scalding Tarn
Misty Rainforest
Now I think I should keep on waiting.
Arid Mesa
Scalding Tarn
Misty Rainforest
Now I think I should keep on waiting.
Collecting doesn't have to mean profiteering. I have pages of foil foreign language Scornful Egotists that are worth next to nothing but they're what I enjoy collecting.
e: It's not just the Reserve List, by going out of their way to protect secondary market prices Wizzos creates a reprint death spiral where cards can't be reprinted because people bought them for a lot of money which causes more people to have to buy them for more and more money making it more and more morally hazardous to reprint said cards. Karakas isn't really a hundred dollar card and the inclusion of 3 of them in a 30 dollar Legacy precon on MODO is a tacit confession stating as much.
Definitely keep waiting.
blindrocket
Member
Genesis Wave is seeing a 200% price increase.
I just made a post about that card yesterday.
I just made a post about that card yesterday.
blindrocket
Member
"God's Beard!"
Member
There will probably be enough cards by the time BNG comes out to run a prismatic deck that's all gods and planeswalkers.
Walking the God will happen, believe DAT.
Walking the God will happen, believe DAT.
Ugh no. He is the worst.
Well, yeah. He just fits the role of 'giant minotaur thing with a B.C. Rich' better than anyone else I can think of.
blindrocket
Member
Do any of you need Desecration Demon on MTGO? I have 4x copies I am not using that I can trade.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Great; Reddit is starting the campaign to have everybody buy jeweler's loupes. Fantastic. If this panic catches on, it could ruin player-to-player trading almost entirely. I can't even imagine how obnoxious your local self-professed counterfeit expert at your LGS would be about this...
I'm going to start playing Pauper solely with counterfeited cards.
to be fair, player-to-player trading is already ruined.
"What, the trade is $1.50 off! I can't just let myself get ripped off here. Let me leaf through your binder for another half an hour and keep asking how much everything is worth, then insisting on looking it up on my phone anyway."
People gonna yell, "OH SNAP," when your Snaps are exposed as fraudulent.
This is why I only trade with friends. It's just not worth the hassle.
In my days we used InQuest. My magic cards bring all the boys to the yard, and they're like, you got charizard?
Not only did your cards bring the wrong boys to the yard, they brought boys with poor grammar.
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