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Scrye was what the real playground hustlers were reading.
"God's Beard!"
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Aww, kiora's the only planeswalker in BNG? 
blindrocket
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";96426893]Aww, kiora's the only planeswalker in BNG?
[/QUOTE]I was sad when I found out I will have to wait for my GW Planeswalker.
Modern Event Decks? Interesting development.......
If you want some more tips on building a Cube, I suggest checking this recent article out (and the articles + places it links to as well)
Hey all,
I've recently been playing a fair bit of Hearthstone and while having heaps of fun I'm finding my interest is waning. Magic is obviously a bit more involved and is actually a physical object so I thought I'd try build a cube to add it to my board game collection.
Based on what I've read a cube made from a deck builder's toolkit may be enough to get started but may not have enough cards to play a one colour deck of each type.
I'm open for suggestions to add to a DBT to make a nice range of cards and have enough to build a one colour deck if we feel like it. I doubt my friends will buy their own cards so I'm just trying to make one set we can treat like it's own boardgame when the mood strikes.
Cheers for any and all help
If you want some more tips on building a Cube, I suggest checking this recent article out (and the articles + places it links to as well)
Good timing, right before the ptq season starts. Really curious to see exactly how many different ones we get, hopefully one for each of the top tier decks.
"God's Beard!"
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I was actually thinking the same thing. Just skip Core Set and print straight to Modern.
I'd be so sad, I already have 3 lol
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";96426893]Aww, kiora's the only planeswalker in BNG? [/QUOTE]
Yeah I think the've locked themselves into five plansewalkers a block, so for Large-Large-Small they'll probably (almost) always do 3-1-1
[/QUOTE]Yeah I think the've locked themselves into five plansewalkers a block, so for Large-Large-Small they'll probably (almost) always do 3-1-1
It's especially disappointing because she's not that good. Hopefully the GW one is pretty awesome, whether it ends up being Ajani or not.
"God's Beard!"
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Well I think Maro talked about other enchantment-y abilities on creatures than bestow coming up.
My guess for the modern first event deck would be something simple and monocolored like merfolk. It follows their previous criteria for event decks: can win at FNM, unplayable at higher level events, probably won't be expensive enough for scalpers to buy every copy, will still be a good value for someone new to the format.
Once a $75 precon passes the $150 mark on tcgplayer (or the $250 mark on starcity), it will become impossible to buy in stores. I think these will be (mostly) practical, although I'm still hopeful that one will have at least a single blue fetch in it.
On the other hand, how much are the people at WoTC freaking out about counterfeits? They could easily use the next year or two to milk the fuck out of their reprintable modern and legacy staples, which means these event decks could be stacked.
Will be interesting to find out.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";96489221]Well I think Maro talked about other enchantment-y abilities on creatures than bestow coming up.[/QUOTE]
Now I'm hyped
Bestow ended up being pretty awesome, and everyone likes licids. Would like to see what other design space is there.
Once a $75 precon passes the $150 mark on tcgplayer (or the $250 mark on starcity), it will become impossible to buy in stores. I think these will be (mostly) practical, although I'm still hopeful that one will have at least a single blue fetch in it.
On the other hand, how much are the people at WoTC freaking out about counterfeits? They could easily use the next year or two to milk the fuck out of their reprintable modern and legacy staples, which means these event decks could be stacked.
Will be interesting to find out.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";96489221]Well I think Maro talked about other enchantment-y abilities on creatures than bestow coming up.[/QUOTE]
Now I'm hyped
Bestow ended up being pretty awesome, and everyone likes licids. Would like to see what other design space is there.
Merfolk? Well, I'm curious to see what the build includes. It needs Mutavault, Cavern of Souls, and Aether Vial to be worthwhile as a deck. I wonder how many of each they'd put in. Maybe they sneak Remand in?
Melira pod deck is my bet. Slightly worse manabase, no Nobel Hierarchs and Thoughtsieze, and the deck consists of a lot of 1 or 2 ofs. They did multiple birthing pod decks in the Event deck series already.
Don't need caverns for the precon version, I'd imagine. I did forget about the mutavault price spike though, so that might not be the best idea for an accessible precon.
Maybe they finalized decklists before the spike, and we'll end up with $100 in mutavaults in each one!
Affinity (with only one or two mox opals) can also be built for around 150 on tcgplayer. It's definitely a possibility.
Melira-pod would end up being a generic pod list, likely with a color cut (manabase is $$$), but it's also very possible. I imagine Melira herself will be cut though? WoTC doesn't like putting combos in precons, but this might be an exception.
I just realized they can do three-color lists really easily (but jankily) in precons: just toss in reflecting pools and vivid lands. Bam, you have an FNM-ready manabase.
Would really like to see this. Tymaret is such a fantastic card, it's a real shame that he hasn't seen any play yet.
Would really like to see this. Tymaret is such a fantastic card, it's a real shame that he hasn't seen any play yet.
I'm going to try a couple in the side of Rakdos aggro tomorrow I think because I don't know what I'm doing. Seems like he could be breakable eventually with Xathrid Necromancer but it's definitely a few cards short.
Scars Fastlands would also fit the deck. The other thing is it isn't hard to make Melira Pod without any Mythics, but almost impossible to make Affinity without it (Mox Opal is mandatory). They probably will put at least 30 rares in this deck for the price point, but probably no Mythics, or if they do, just 1 or 2 one-ofs.
If they did this as a functional Pod deck, minus Melira, I wonder if enough people would buy her to put in to cause a jump in price. I doubt it. I also think it would be incredibly stupid of them to put a Pod deck together for Modern without her or Kiki Jiki.
Edit: Also, whoa, when did Karn spike?
"God's Beard!"
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Almost guaranteed for a shake-up. There just aren't a ton of multicolor options right now which born should fix with half the guilds being represented in god form, etc.
That said, Thassa and Thoughtseize are probably still gonna wind up being super powerful. But they're really splashy so it' shouldn't affect variety too much. Mono-blue, Esper and Mono-black probably aren't going anywhere.
Let us know how it goes! Grakl & I brewed a few lists like this, but stopped testing because the mana was lackluster. I want to try again once the rakdos scrygate gets printed.
Scars fastlands are a great idea, and will delay their inevitable price spike. I'm not looking forward to the more accessible lands in Modern hitting $10+.
Mox Opal obviously makes affinity a million times better, but there's still an inexpensive and effective build without it, at least for FNM-level play. It still wouldn't be my favorite choice, especially because of how many people already play it as a budget option, but at least I can put Kataki back in my sideboard
I'm guessing 20 rares and ~2 mythics per deck, but we'll see. They might not pay much attention to rare count, and just try to make the best lists they can without destroying secondary market values.
Very good point -- Melira could definitely see a huge price spike. She was a 2-of in an event deck, but IIRC the Magic playerbase has doubled since Scars of Mirrodin.
That entire block is due for a price shakeup.
platypotamus
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So with Gatecrash, it was another big set, so limited was all GTC. With BotG being a small set, will we be splitting BotG/Theros packs in drafts/sealed?
The Technomancer
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Yeah, it'll be BNG/THS/THS, and then Journey into Nyx will be JOU/BNG/THS
Had kind of a cool idea to downsize my collection:
I have a growing box of $2-$10 cards. They don't fit in my dollar rare binder, and they're all at least two dollars tcgplayer mid. Most are in the ~$3.50 area.
I could just ebay these, but I'm doing two senior projects and a full load of courses next term. I just don't have the time. Also, a bunch are one-ofs, so listing would take forever.
Would anyone be interested in buying unsorted bulk lots of cards like this? Tons of EDH staples are in there too, I counted at least five Greaves, three Sol Rings, three command towers, etc.
How much value would you have to get to consider buying something like this? Like, what would you pay for $125 tcgplayer mid worth of semi-random cards, knowing they're all valuable/playable and there's no bulk? Would it be more if I promised no duplicates?
$200 worth of cards for $100 shipped was the idea, but I have no idea if it's too high or too low or what. I haven't seen lots like this offered before.
I have a growing box of $2-$10 cards. They don't fit in my dollar rare binder, and they're all at least two dollars tcgplayer mid. Most are in the ~$3.50 area.
I could just ebay these, but I'm doing two senior projects and a full load of courses next term. I just don't have the time. Also, a bunch are one-ofs, so listing would take forever.
Would anyone be interested in buying unsorted bulk lots of cards like this? Tons of EDH staples are in there too, I counted at least five Greaves, three Sol Rings, three command towers, etc.
How much value would you have to get to consider buying something like this? Like, what would you pay for $125 tcgplayer mid worth of semi-random cards, knowing they're all valuable/playable and there's no bulk? Would it be more if I promised no duplicates?
$200 worth of cards for $100 shipped was the idea, but I have no idea if it's too high or too low or what. I haven't seen lots like this offered before.
blindrocket
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Modern Event decks are awesome. I remember saying how cool that would be a few pages back!
I hope they have one with Tarmogoyf. LOL
Oh and one of my LGS will probably sell this at MSRP regardless of whatever the street value is. They are the only LGS selling Mind Seize for $30 while the other two have the price jacked up. I swear they just go by SCG pricing.
I hope they have one with Tarmogoyf. LOL
Oh and one of my LGS will probably sell this at MSRP regardless of whatever the street value is. They are the only LGS selling Mind Seize for $30 while the other two have the price jacked up. I swear they just go by SCG pricing.
blindrocket
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I've already started asking my LGS if I can pre-order it.
I hope I don't screw myself. lol
It comes with creature tokens, so that should help narrow it down some, right?
I hope I don't screw myself. lol
It comes with creature tokens, so that should help narrow it down some, right?
"God's Beard!"
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New Planeswalker idea:
Liliana, Goth Schoolgirl
+1 Want to grab some coffee?
-3 Nobody understands me like you do.
-9 Stick it in
<[4]3
"zzzzz...."
"WAKE UP! Big brother!"
(drowsily)"uggh... what is it Nissa?"
"Jace! Did you forget? It's your first day of high school! You're going to be late!"
Liliana, Goth Schoolgirl
+1 Want to grab some coffee?
-3 Nobody understands me like you do.
-9 Stick it in
<[4]3
"zzzzz...."
"WAKE UP! Big brother!"
(drowsily)"uggh... what is it Nissa?"
"Jace! Did you forget? It's your first day of high school! You're going to be late!"
"God's Beard!"
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hahaha
divisionbyzorro
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So Modern event "deck," as in singular? I guess best case scenario is some sort of Domain Zoo deck, with a Tarmogoyf and a Geist and some fetchlands, alone with some other goodies? Asking for a Jund-lite deck with a Goyf and a Liliana is too much, especially for something that will be limited.
As if it's going to have Goyf lol. They aren't crazy enough to have 1 card that was previously worth more than the whole product.
If it's good value it will probably be because of lots of <$10 cards. I think a Birthing Pod deck is a good shout as it works with a lot of 1-2 ofs.
If it's good value it will probably be because of lots of <$10 cards. I think a Birthing Pod deck is a good shout as it works with a lot of 1-2 ofs.
It's just a singular deck. They switched to one per printing because one was always "the better deck" and lead to people only buying that one and leaving stores with half a box full of a deck no one wanted.
Living End is also a possibility for the deck. It's mostly a bunch of janky commons and uncommons, with 4 Fulminator Mages (My guess is the deck would have 2 of them), a few singleton shocklands (easy), a bunch of Scars Fastlands (easy), and 4 Verdant Catacombs (again, dropped to a 2 of). Sideboard can have 4 Leyline of the Voids. Only issue is if they think they might ban Simian Spirit Guide, they won't print him in here.
Living End is also a possibility for the deck. It's mostly a bunch of janky commons and uncommons, with 4 Fulminator Mages (My guess is the deck would have 2 of them), a few singleton shocklands (easy), a bunch of Scars Fastlands (easy), and 4 Verdant Catacombs (again, dropped to a 2 of). Sideboard can have 4 Leyline of the Voids. Only issue is if they think they might ban Simian Spirit Guide, they won't print him in here.
I've been heavily arguing for this one. It does nothing but enable stupid T2/T3 nutdraws from decks like Living End or Goryo's Breach. (I also think DRS and Splinter Twin are both cards the format would be better off without.)
What are you trying to do with Magic?
Play Constructed tournaments? Just buy the singles you need directly. Could start with the an event deck if you want something to build off.
Play casually? An intro deck would be fine probably to start with. Or buy boosters to draft with your friends.
I'm a little late but a pod deck is a no-go in my opinion. They are just too complex to be a general market product. They're not gonna want to sell decks where the buyer loses the vast majority of their games right off the bat because they don't know the deck. You don't just pick up a pod deck, shuffle and then win based on your draws, a keen sense and reading the cards in your hand. You have to know your deck inside and out to get anything from the pod.
On the other hand my bet is on affinity. It's fast, fits the budget, easy to play (but also has deeper interactions that a player will get over time) and a few pieces were already printed in Modern Masters. Additionally Maro has an affinity for affinity, yeah?
On the other hand my bet is on affinity. It's fast, fits the budget, easy to play (but also has deeper interactions that a player will get over time) and a few pieces were already printed in Modern Masters. Additionally Maro has an affinity for affinity, yeah?
Mostly play casually but I've played enough (and want to) to build my own decks. Eventually tournaments I guess.
I have a decent selection of cards (enough to construct multiple decks of different colours) and am wondering if based on that if there is any point to getting the 2014 set.
Rite of Flame and Seething Song are lonely.
blindrocket
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So do you think the 5 double-sided tokens have anything to do with the deck itself or are they just generic Modern format used tokens?
What does a t2 living end accomplish? Kill a creature and put a 4/4 dork and maybe a 3/4 into play? That or the living end player has to have the nuts draw of land, land, cascade, ssg and one cycler, drawing multiple street wraiths in the process or more ssgs and cyclers. Truly a christmasland scenario. (Maybe I'm missing something.)
Do you mean Goryo's Vengeance or Through the Breach?
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