blindrocket
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Well there we go.
divisionbyzorro
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Oh, Springleaf Drum officially, officially confirmed:
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Also, somewhat annoyed that the Monstrous mechanic is the one that got axed and replaced with Tribute. I thought Monstrous was pretty sweet and well designed; Tribute just looks fairly dull.
Also, somewhat annoyed that the Monstrous mechanic is the one that got axed and replaced with Tribute. I thought Monstrous was pretty sweet and well designed; Tribute just looks fairly dull.
divisionbyzorro
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It's not better. It's significantly worse. Being able to turn the effect off at will is not a fair trade for it not being on by default.
Nope.
divisionbyzorro
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Fixed. And you're right. It's not that great.
"God's Beard!"
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What about with paradise mantle or another tap equipment?
How do you figure he needs to be tapped twice to get a card exactly?
Ah damn, really had that wrong. That's so much worse than I thought.
divisionbyzorro
Member
I'm just clarifying that, unlike Dark Confidant which just does its thing all by itself, Pain Seer must get tapped in order to get the card from it. So it's not at all like Bob which is a one-card value engine. Pain Seer makes you work really hard to get advantage from it.
It's not really busted unless you have some instant speed, repeatable creature token producers. It's not going to trigger unless you produce a creature on the previous turn which isn't exactly common in a multiplayer game.
Well, sure we can argue that but it only takes one tapping(untapping) to get a card out of him, not two. And turning him sideways isn't exactly hard to take advantage of. It's not as brainless as Dark Confidant is, no, but it's all about the environment. The drum turns him into a Birds of Paradise. Ral Zarak is disgusting with him too.
ThLunarian
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Doesn't work like you think. The wording says that the creature had to come into play last turn. So, you'd get a card during the turn of the player after you. Then player 3 goes, the god sees that you didn't get a creature on Player 2's turn, and nothing happens.
Ahhh yea guess I read "your last turn". My UW social deck uses a couple moorland haunts so that would work.
I just started looking at the spoilers for the first time so I might be late on this but...
At uncommon? That's absolutely broken in half in limited.
6 mana for a 3/2 is pretty bad/fragile other than casting it for an alpha strike and at that point it's kind of like Overrun in blue.
Can lead to some decent alpha strikes, but there are plenty common and uncommon of answers, even just in Theros. To add insult to injury, any instant speed removal on this guy during an alpha strike can be serious bad news for you.I just started looking at the spoilers for the first time so I might be late on this but...
At uncommon? That's absolutely broken in half in limited.
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phazedplasma
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loving these cheap bestows
I expect more flash creatures in U/W because of the god. Makes sense to have a creature in control in opponent's turn.
Inspire is a nice trade off as you usually need to attack in order to untap it. Pain Seer in W/B aggro is a no brainer. Probably will see 4 Frontline Medics more often as he'll allow Inspired creatures to attack freely when FM's Battalion is triggered.
Heroic has to return after seeing Bestow return right? Would be scary as those Bestow are dirt cheap to cast.
How will hybrid cards work? Will Nightveil Specter give 6 devotions to the B/U god?
Inspire is a nice trade off as you usually need to attack in order to untap it. Pain Seer in W/B aggro is a no brainer. Probably will see 4 Frontline Medics more often as he'll allow Inspired creatures to attack freely when FM's Battalion is triggered.
Heroic has to return after seeing Bestow return right? Would be scary as those Bestow are dirt cheap to cast.
How will hybrid cards work? Will Nightveil Specter give 6 devotions to the B/U god?
Three total.
divisionbyzorro
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Well, the original comment was discussing how to get to +1 cards, which is two activations.
And the drum turns anything into a Birds, to be fair. It's not exactly like that's a particular busted interaction; the drum is clearly in the set to enable all sorts of Inspired shenanigans. I doubt that Drum into Pain Seer is going to be that much better than, say, just playing Underworld Connections.
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Holy Strength and Firebreathing? -_-
e: Pain Seer will show up in a stupid combo deck.
The Technomancer
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Tribute seems fun and I really love the design of the UW God. I'm still just super hyped to see the other nine, all of the Gods so far have had very clever designs
divisionbyzorro
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I'm sure it will go into a BW or Esper Humans deck as a value creature. I highly doubt it becomes part of anything degenerate.
Imposing Sovereign gets hit a little from Inspired. I wouldn't even want to run it against Pain Seer.
Ephara is in a weird place. It's too slow for a W/U humans deck and U/W control just doesn't run enough permanents to make it a god nor will it run enough creatures to trigger much draws. The card spot is tight enough as it is already. Ephara will have to work in some midrange deck.
Ephara is in a weird place. It's too slow for a W/U humans deck and U/W control just doesn't run enough permanents to make it a god nor will it run enough creatures to trigger much draws. The card spot is tight enough as it is already. Ephara will have to work in some midrange deck.
Seems like too much work.
He is a bear, which is nice, but otherwise I don't think he'll do too much in the format.
crimsonspider89
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Pain seer and springleaf drum sounds fun. But just my take on it.
With Springleaf Drum in the format where it's more feasible to dumb your hand isn't it possible Blood Scriviner will be more consistent?
I'm a handful of cards away from putting together a Rakdos Aggro Humans deck and this may fit in. I'll equip Witches Eye for him and see where that gets me. Otherwise card draw on T4 is almost too little too late, but on the other hand it's better than nothing B/R Aggro is short on any card draw. I won't pay too much for this one. It would be nice to use the extra draw more than once and get an idea of how much life you'll give with Witches Eye.
That came to mind shortly after I posted. Someone will use that combo in a control deck somewhere though, as bad as it may be. Even then you still have Read the Bones and Underworld Connections, or in the right deck an Altar's Reap. I think if I use him I'll just be happy with a 2/2 for 2 that might get me a card on T4. At the very least Xathrid Necromancer will pull another 2/2 out of him if he doesn't.
That is way too broke.
T1: Rackdos Cackler
T2: BTE BTE (The One), swing for 4
T3: Untap, you already did 7 dmg w/o even attacking T3 yet. It would be too fast for any control decks.
Been out of standard for a while, but I've been thinking about brewing some fun stuff. Anyone else think a Jund build using Underworld Cerberus at the top of the curve could be good?
I'm thinking a backbone of Sylvan Caryatid, Boon Saytr, Hero's Downfall, Mizzium Mortars, maybe Xenagos... I don't know, it feels more midrangey than aggro. It's a really rough sketch in my head right now.
I'm thinking a backbone of Sylvan Caryatid, Boon Saytr, Hero's Downfall, Mizzium Mortars, maybe Xenagos... I don't know, it feels more midrangey than aggro. It's a really rough sketch in my head right now.
About time. When was the last time a red aggro deck dominated standard? It has all been midrange, control, tempo, since... Time Spiral/Ravnica?
More like Orzhov control or Midrange then? Life is voluntarily given up left and right in those builds. I'm just brainstorming some sort of use for it. It's like Duskmantle Seer, just sitting there begging to be used. Like the Seer, it may never find it's place, either.
ZEN-Scars standard.
All of these in the same standard format:
Goblin Guide
Bolt
Shrine of Burning Rage
Grim Lavamancer
Goblin Bushwacker
Teetering Peaks
Chandra's Phoenix
....It still wasn't dominant
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