phazedplasma
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yay more ajani in Nyx!
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The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Stuff vs. Things? Could this description be more fucking vague? I do feel there are hints here to that reworked Flanking mechanic Maro likes to go on about.
Fucking sweet
Well the duel decks that don't have planeswalkers in them tend to have better cards in the decks. I doubt it'd have all of those though.
If you are making a "speed" deck, how is Goblin Guide not an automatic?
And the point of Duel Decks is to be competitive, there is no way that a mill deck short of Painter Stone or something could compete against an aggro deck. I am guessing Cryptic Command because they have reprinted all of the other Commands in ancillary products over the last few years, and it is a pretty "cunning" card
Golgari/Simic and Orzov/Izzet looks too similar in color. Other than that, they look sweet (Boros is a little disappointing.
With older cards, I'm to the point of saying these prices will only go up from here, so I might as well pick them up now. I'm gonna have to put in hella overtime for sets of fetch and maybe even some badlands. :/
With older cards, I'm to the point of saying these prices will only go up from here, so I might as well pick them up now. I'm gonna have to put in hella overtime for sets of fetch and maybe even some badlands. :/
I think it's almost all but guaranteed
edit: This all-but confirms Ajani (which we already knew).
Also, Godsend could be a sweet equipment... please?
Fetch lands are the cards most likely to get a reprint this year. Unfortunately after the Modern PTQ season.
Frankie Williamson
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Please let Keranos be awesome. Izzet gets shafted so hard most of the time.
She is ok in the right deck. I've come around. Not every pw can be broken. Besides, Ral Zarek sees no play...
Blue red is the strongest base in Modern and pretty powerful in legacy. Can't agree with you.
But Ral isn't great haha
Lightning Bolt, Cryptic Command, force of will, show and tell, pyroblast... Those are all interactive!
Ashiok is a very good card, but they keep giving it mill cards without being willing to push it more than 1-2 cards at a time.
w/e you read "interactive" just replace the word "interactive" with "doesn't regularly use the combat phase" and you can actually understand what's being said
I was being sarcastic lol
blindrocket
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Does Signal the Clans work like Gifts Ungiven and you can search and fail to find three cards, and instead just pull one card from your library? Which would guarantee you pull whatever creature you need.
Signal the Clans:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Signal+The+Clans
Gifts Ungiven
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=79090
Quick Edit.
I think reading it a third time allowed me to catch the clause that makes it not work the same.
If you reveal three cards with different names, choose one of them at random and put that card into your hand.
They had to put that "If you" in there... Yeah, stupid powerful if they didn't.
Signal the Clans:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Signal+The+Clans
Gifts Ungiven
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=79090
Quick Edit.
I think reading it a third time allowed me to catch the clause that makes it not work the same.
If you reveal three cards with different names, choose one of them at random and put that card into your hand.
They had to put that "If you" in there... Yeah, stupid powerful if they didn't.
divisionbyzorro
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I once had a theory that with Breaching Hippocamp in Theros, you could run Signal the Clans as a tutor piece for RUG Splinter Twin decks.
It actually was a really good idea; it's just that Hippocamp is so much worse than Exarch and Pestermite, and you're always crossing your fingers hoping that Hippocamp doesn't come up. Plus it means that you might sometimes draw Hippocamp. If they ever print another 3cc untapper in blue though, you can bet I'm going back to Signal the Clans...
It actually was a really good idea; it's just that Hippocamp is so much worse than Exarch and Pestermite, and you're always crossing your fingers hoping that Hippocamp doesn't come up. Plus it means that you might sometimes draw Hippocamp. If they ever print another 3cc untapper in blue though, you can bet I'm going back to Signal the Clans...
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The lore has me thinking the UG god is another ascended mortal or planeswalker, in which case it would be so so awesome if it was a Vedalken
Blue/red has been objectively awful in Standard for a few years now, which is all that really matters.
Basically, when designing blue/red cards, use this template:
Does it...
[ ] Draw card(s), discard card(s)?
[ ] Draw card(s), discard card(s) at random?
[ ] Steal a creature for one turn?
[ ] Counter two or more spells on the stack?
[ ] Copy spell(s) on the stack?
[ ] Flip coin(s)?
If not, scrap it.
You can add to that the ridiculously narrow and awful ability the Izzet got in Overload (still better than Replicate... I guess). I'd say being the spell-oriented color combination isn't a good place to be when the game's becoming more and more about creatures and combat than before.
The U/G god is my favorite one so far, but the U/R doesn't look too good... hopefully it does something interesting rather than being something obvious such as a scry-based Lightning Rift or Eyes of the Watcher.
I still want to build a deck that uses Ral Zarek in some way, but I don't see too many uses for his untap ability other than to speed up Ratchet Bombs and add an extra mana through lands or something such as Sylvan Caryatid... am I missing anything worthwile in RUg colors?
If only I had a few Kioras to run or the budget to get my hands on them, I'd definitely give that a try.
Well, let's take a look at the descriptions, I bet there are clues as to what their abilities will be:
The "easing the passage from life to death" situation feels like something that could be worked into an ability. I'm gonna guess it's somehow graveyard related. It probably won't be super powerful like reanimating a creature for a turn then exiling it (especially since the Whip already does that). Maybe you get some kind of bonuses for creatures dying or something, Reaper of the Wilds style? Maybe you can exile creatures from the graveyard for some kind of gain? The clay funerary mask might also point toward creating tokens of some sort.
Well, a "bolt" that's "devastating and inspirational" points toward the usual Red/Blue mechanics of direct damage and library manipulation. Insights and blasts of lightning in equal measure means whatever ability it is, it will be symmetrical, so for example, deal 1 damage, Scry 1.
However, I don't think it will be Scry because of this: "momentary glimpses of the future, but the inability to change what is to come". So maybe it will be something like deal two damage at the beginning of your upkeep, look at the top two cards of your library. It would play nicely with Scry lands and things like Courser, to know one card deeper, I guess.
Potion from one cup that heals her own but kills her enemies. Sounds like it could be something like "deal two damage to target creature, gain two life", but maybe it's "put -1/-1 on creature you don't control, put +1/+1 on creature you do" or something like that?
The idea of him being the opposite of Mogis is interesting. Perhaps you'll gain life for having warriors on the battlefield? No, probably not. I think he'd more directly influence your creatures though being so involved in warfare, so perhaps he'll add a buff and first strike, or something like that, to one creature at the upkeep? I'd say maybe he'd force two creatures to face off and Fight, fair combat style, but I thought that was a Red/Green color combo ability, so I'm not sure.
I'm not going to lie, I have no ideas here. Scry seems boring and Thassa already does it, but it would fit with the "oracle of dreams" part. The key is "navigation, mystery and the cycles of time"... maybe he'll allow you to do something crazy like skip your upkeep? I have absolutely no ideas for this one.
The "easing the passage from life to death" situation feels like something that could be worked into an ability. I'm gonna guess it's somehow graveyard related. It probably won't be super powerful like reanimating a creature for a turn then exiling it (especially since the Whip already does that). Maybe you get some kind of bonuses for creatures dying or something, Reaper of the Wilds style? Maybe you can exile creatures from the graveyard for some kind of gain? The clay funerary mask might also point toward creating tokens of some sort.
Well, a "bolt" that's "devastating and inspirational" points toward the usual Red/Blue mechanics of direct damage and library manipulation. Insights and blasts of lightning in equal measure means whatever ability it is, it will be symmetrical, so for example, deal 1 damage, Scry 1.
However, I don't think it will be Scry because of this: "momentary glimpses of the future, but the inability to change what is to come". So maybe it will be something like deal two damage at the beginning of your upkeep, look at the top two cards of your library. It would play nicely with Scry lands and things like Courser, to know one card deeper, I guess.
Potion from one cup that heals her own but kills her enemies. Sounds like it could be something like "deal two damage to target creature, gain two life", but maybe it's "put -1/-1 on creature you don't control, put +1/+1 on creature you do" or something like that?
The idea of him being the opposite of Mogis is interesting. Perhaps you'll gain life for having warriors on the battlefield? No, probably not. I think he'd more directly influence your creatures though being so involved in warfare, so perhaps he'll add a buff and first strike, or something like that, to one creature at the upkeep? I'd say maybe he'd force two creatures to face off and Fight, fair combat style, but I thought that was a Red/Green color combo ability, so I'm not sure.
I'm not going to lie, I have no ideas here. Scry seems boring and Thassa already does it, but it would fit with the "oracle of dreams" part. The key is "navigation, mystery and the cycles of time"... maybe he'll allow you to do something crazy like skip your upkeep? I have absolutely no ideas for this one.
keeblerdrow
Member
I think the red/blue god could see some balance to his powers. Maybe 2 damage to target creature or player when a blue spell is cast and scry 2/draw 1 when a red spell is cast. Or at up keep do a combination of 3 damage and/or scry as you choose. Or he could be a Counterbalance with a body that deals 1 damage when it counters.
Two-colored gods only have a single ability, so the first idea isn't viable, and free repeatable damage/scry could be too strong at 3 (perhaps 2 would be decent, but if it's limited to instants and sorceries to avoid overlap with Purphoros). Counterbalance that damages sounds really unfun, even without crazy library manipulation like what's available in eternal formats.
I honestly can't come up with an ability that feels both blue and red and doesn't overlap with other gods'. Dealing damage when creature ETB would be stepping into Purphoros' territory, as would scry on upkeep step on Thassa's... perhaps "Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, scry 1 and Keranos deals 1 damage to up to one target creature"? That'd be kind of boring, but probably be fine as long as he isn't too cheap (I'd sat 2UR would be pushing it).
keeblerdrow
Member
Yeah, the problem with red and blue is the moment you start mixing them things get really stupid or really powerful. I agree that 3 is too powerful for every turn and agree that most of that specu-wishing steps on other god toes. I think counterbalance could be okay in a standard format without heavy deck manipulation. Maybe instead of countering, you draw that card if the cmc matches and deal 1 damage to the opponent.
I'd like a green/black god that gives out a -1/-1 token every time a +1/+1 token is put into play. But that's close to infect and that seems verboten in current standard circles.
I'd like a green/black god that gives out a -1/-1 token every time a +1/+1 token is put into play. But that's close to infect and that seems verboten in current standard circles.
It'd be unlikely since Wizards has stated they try to avoid mixing both +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters in the same block. Encompassing both curing and killing with her balms seems like a hard thing to do in a single ability, as both life drain and mirrored temporary P/T gains/losses tend to be part of BW's skillset rather than BG's.
It feels like she shouldn't just profit from life/death, but rather be the cause of it, perhaps by casting Necrobite or something like that.
Could be an Altar's Reap type effect too. Like you may sacrifice a creature to have some other effect like card draw or have another creature gain +X/+X until end of turn.
MetalGuardian
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sunuvabitch
For some reason, all of my main friends got into Magic out of nowhere these past few months. I was very nervous about falling down the rabbit hole, because it seems like a huuuge money sink. But alas, several days ago I played with them using some of their extra decks and the game is freaking awesome.
I'm going to start with Duels of the Planeswalker first before spending all of my money on cards... however, I've heard conflicting things about whether I should go with the 2013 version or the 2014 version. I'm towards 2014 because duh, it's newer, but my friends have told me the 2013 version is better. Do any of you have a recommendation one way or the other?
For some reason, all of my main friends got into Magic out of nowhere these past few months. I was very nervous about falling down the rabbit hole, because it seems like a huuuge money sink. But alas, several days ago I played with them using some of their extra decks and the game is freaking awesome.
I'm going to start with Duels of the Planeswalker first before spending all of my money on cards... however, I've heard conflicting things about whether I should go with the 2013 version or the 2014 version. I'm towards 2014 because duh, it's newer, but my friends have told me the 2013 version is better. Do any of you have a recommendation one way or the other?
blindrocket
Member
I need some cards and was wondering if any of you had these for trade?
I wont even bother with the stupidly expensive fetchlands. lol
Cryptic Command x3
Remand x3
Celestial Colonnade x4
Sulfur Falls x4
Ajani Vengeant x2
Lesser wants would be the other Innistrad block dual lands.
I wont even bother with the stupidly expensive fetchlands. lol
Cryptic Command x3
Remand x3
Celestial Colonnade x4
Sulfur Falls x4
Ajani Vengeant x2
Lesser wants would be the other Innistrad block dual lands.
turn 4 no rush
blindrocket
Member
Yeah, either one is good though the latest one lets you tap land better. I actually learned a lot of rules properly thru DotP that I wouldn't have otherwise known just playing the regular paper game lol.
Magic can get really expensive, but if your group is casual, it can be relatively cheap.
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