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[bigkrev]

http://pastimes.net/Post/810-PSA-Regarding-Grand-Prix-Atlanta-and-Chicago.html

GP Atlanta and Chicago, both constructed events, are being jacked up to 50 dollars

And by the quality of this explanation it's cause they give zero fucks

 

[divisionbyzorro]

WotC needs to stop outsourcing event coordination to so many different places.

 

[Gatekeeper]

WotC needs to stop outsourcing event coordination to so many different places.

Wizards does not have the manpower to run GPs. PTOs are the way to go for these, unless you want to see them drop to about 10 a year.

 

[OnPoint]

Okay, this looks pretty sweet (for limited).

Combos nicely with the one-sided Howling Mine no?

I mean, someone had to have said this already.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Combos nicely with the one-sided Howling Mine no?

I mean, someone had to have said this already.

I'm more interested in what it can with Stratus Walk and its ilk.

 

[OnPoint]

I'm more interested in what it can with Stratus Walk and its ilk.

Oooh also good.

 

[An-Det]

I went 6-0 tonight in Legacy with BUG Delver. It was a store I hadn't been to before, so they did it a bit odd. There were 15 people, so it went 3 rounds of swiss, then cut to top 8. In the swiss I played against Storm, a BR standard deck, and Miracles, then played Miracles (same guy), Enchantress, and then Affinity in the finals. I only dropped one game in the night (game 2 vs affinity), the deck felt awesome the whole time.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

This card looks like it could create some insane plays in Limited.

And I would imagine that most decks beyond standard that want this effect have better options (although it does survive Bolt, but then again Rule of Law survives all creature removal).

 

[kirblar]

I went 6-0 tonight in Legacy with BUG Delver. It was a store I hadn't been to before, so they did it a bit odd. There were 15 people, so it went 3 rounds of swiss, then cut to top 8. In the swiss I played against Storm, a BR standard deck, and Miracles, then played Miracles (same guy), Enchantress, and then Affinity in the finals. I only dropped one game in the night (game 2 vs affinity), the deck felt awesome the whole time.

BUG and UWR are both very, very good- they just have different %s against the field.

 

[y2dvd]

I'm guessing X mana doesn't count as 1 mana correct?

 

[kirblar]

I'm guessing X mana doesn't count as 1 mana correct?

X= 0 = 0 mana
X= 1 = 0 mana

It gives you a "free" mana., but if it's, say, XXR, you have to pay X(X-1)R instead.

 

[aidan]

I'm guessing X mana doesn't count as 1 mana correct?

Straight from Daily MTG:

Well, (re)introducing a little card we planted back in Born of the Gods: Glimpse the Sun God!

For each mana you spend, you tap a creature. Except... each creature you target makes it cost one less! So, for a single mana, you can target and tap any number of creatures. And thanks to the declare attackers step, you can cast it after you attack but before your opponent can block—meaning all of your heroic triggers trigger again (you can target tapped creatures just fine and they will still be attacking) and all of your opponent's creatures will become tapped.

Yes, it's true: a real power of the Thaumaturge lies in X spells like Glimpse the Sun God and (I never expected to say this) Gridlock. Now that you know the X spell trick with this card, it sounds like it's time for you to graduate onto Thaumaturgy 102.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Like I said, he's going to enable some insane plays and crazy board states. If your opponent attacks into you with an army backed by this guy and even just a couple of open mana, you aren't just trying to block to beat one trick, but up to one trick per untapped land.

 

[OnPoint]

Straight from Daily MTG:

Uh... that could get really nasty.

 

[An-Det]

BUG and UWR are both very, very good- they just have different %s against the field.

Yeah definitely, still getting a feel for those. After playing a similar shell in Jund for so long BUG feels damn good, even without the Punishing Fire safety net that I'm used to. Spell Pierce is my new favorite thing.

 

[y2dvd]

Straight from Daily MTG:

Wow, I'm glad I asked. I was thinking, there's no way X can be 1, but wow Thaumaturge can reduce quite a few cards' cost. Most kill spells and even things like Revoke Existence becomes 1 mana cheaper on an enchantment creature.

 

[OnPoint]

Doesn't it make Auralia's Fury kind of just read "deal 1 damage to every creature your opponent controls" for a cost of RW?

 

[WanderingWind]

Doesn't it make Auralia's Fury kind of just read "deal 1 damage to every creature your opponent controls" for a cost of RW?

I just got sort of a borosner

 

[Firemind]

I said wow.

Then I realized the ability is worse than Goblin Electromancer in most cases.

It has a more forgiving mana cost though and a second ability. Not sure how relevant it is unless you're packing pump spells.

 

[Fragamemnon]

I went 6-0 tonight in Legacy with BUG Delver. It was a store I hadn't been to before, so they did it a bit odd. There were 15 people, so it went 3 rounds of swiss, then cut to top 8. In the swiss I played against Storm, a BR standard deck, and Miracles, then played Miracles (same guy), Enchantress, and then Affinity in the finals. I only dropped one game in the night (game 2 vs affinity), the deck felt awesome the whole time.

I really like the way that BUG can play triple threat against combo (creature disruption, hand disruption, countermagic) and still have amazing cards like Abrupt Decay and Golgari Charm against critter decks. That deck has come a long way from its sinkhole and tombstalker origins.

My only complaint is that it is a bad Liliana deck compared to Jund, the PoxDepths decks, or the newer Deadguy variants.

 

[Wichu]

Battlefield Thaumaturge is all sorts of deliciously abusable.

On one hand, I wish it was legendary, so I could build a Commander deck for it.

On the other hand, that would mean you couldn't stack its effect for glorious winning (as the article points out, 4 Thaumaturges and 3 other creatures = one-shot the opponent with Aurelia's Fury for RW).

 

[acheron_xl]

The kind of shenanigans you can pull off with the Thaumaturge really feels like the kind of feels-cheaty-to-noobs stuff they seem to want to iron out of the game.

 

[JulianImp]

I said wow.

Then I realized the ability is worse than Goblin Electromancer in most cases.

It has a more forgiving mana cost though and a second ability. Not sure how relevant it is unless you're packing pump spells.

I'd say it makes Flames of the Firebrand decent if decks with X/1s begin to show up (2/1 split to creatures or 1/1/1 for R sounds nice).

Still, yeah, it's mostly a rare 2/1 Electromancer unless you're playing many multi-targeting cards such as Aurelia's Fury, or are making a janky deck full of pump spells, which is what makes me feel like heroic was a mechanic way too focused on limited, since most of the stuff with targets that you'd normally play in constructed is used to get stuff out of the way rather than giving opponents the chance to 2-for-1 you.

I mean, his heroic trigger works fine with instants, but is kind of bad with sorceries and auras, since your opponent still gets to kill it in response to its hexproof-granting ability.

 

[bigkrev]

Sweet flavor

 

[ultron87]

I'm trying to think of some good way to manufacture a one-sided Wrathaggeddon with Boros Charm and that dude that isn't just "get 8 mana, cast him". If only Whip didn't exile.

 

[bigkrev]

I'm trying to think of some good way to manufacture a one-sided Wrathaggeddon with Boros Charm and that dude that isn't just "get 8 mana, cast him". If only Whip didn't exile.

 

[WanderingWind]

Ahahahaha...holy crap that's awesome.

 

[ultron87]

Well yeah. That, and Sneak Attack are the obvious choices. I meant in Standard.

Though the awkward thing about TTB and Sneak Attack is that your opponent gets one more turn before everything gets blown up.

 

[The Technomancer]

Sweet flavor

Oh god...my friend is putting this in his Child of Alara Commander deck

 

[The Adder]

Well yeah. That, and Sneak Attack are the obvious choices. I meant in Standard.

Rescue from the underworld? Cast him, sac him" destroy all permanents, get him and another creature back?

 

[JulianImp]

I'm trying to think of some good way to manufacture a one-sided Wrathaggeddon with Boros Charm and that dude that isn't just "get 8 mana, cast him". If only Whip didn't exile.

A blink effect could also work to get around the Whip's exile, but I don't think we've got any decent ones. The only ones that could be remotely playable would be Voidwalk, Banisher Priest and Legion's Initiative, but then you'd be making a five-card combo deck (Bearer + Whip + blink effect + sacrifice outlet + Boros Charm).

Then again, you could use Rescue from the Underworld to do that a little bit faster and requiring any creature instead of a blink effect, but it's still ridiculously clunky, with there being way better things you could be doing with all those cards and mana.

 

[Jaeyden]

Oh god...my friend is putting this in his Child of Alara Commander deck

I dunno. I play a Child EDH deck and I'm not sure I would want this thing. It's O.K. but what it does, Child just does a lot better. No regen and being able to sac Child in response to things and not waiting for the end step to wipe the field is a big difference. I'm not saying he's bad and I really like the big body but I'm just not sure I'd be able to find room for him.

 

[MjFrancis]

Doesn't work, darn.

 

[ultron87]

Doesn't work, darn.

Saw before your edit. It, Gift of Immortality + Bearer, kind of "works", in that it sets up a never ending loop of everything exploding every end step if you stack your triggers right.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Doesn't work, darn.

Sure it does.

Bearer dies, then immediately comes back.

On your end step, stack the triggers so that the Gift comes back before the destruction trigger. Everything dies (including the Gift), but the Bearer comes back (again). He's won't have the Gift anymore, but he'll be the only thing left.

 

[ultron87]

But then everything blows up again the next end step. Edit: I think you still get the Gift back too. So you can loop this every turn forever. And even get to attack with your 10/10 on your turn.

 

[MjFrancis]

So it does work. Awesome.

 

[Yeef]

(You have hexproof)

 

[y2dvd]

Burn decks am cry. Works on Devour Flesh too.

 

[bigkrev]

Burn decks am cry. Works on Devour Flesh too.

Thankfully, Burn decks have zero problems with a 2/1

 

[ultron87]

Searing Blood wrecks that guy so hard.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Burn decks am cry. Works on Devour Flesh too.

Just burn the creature.

 

[Firemind]

But what if they have the green archetype in play?

WHAT THEN RED PLAYER?

 

[Angry Grimace]

But what if they have the green archetype in play?

WHAT THEN RED PLAYER?

Scoop.

 

[y2dvd]

Sometimes you can ignore the creature and just smash the player. This obviously demands to be answered. Not the worst thing for burn decks I suppose.

 

[The Technomancer]

Sometimes you can ignore the creature and just smash the player. This obviously demands to be answered. Not the worst thing for burn decks I suppose.

Sure but "When enters the battlefield you gain 3 life" has basically the same effect in a vacuum.

I wonder if someone can combo it with something though.

 

[bigkrev]

/DEAD

 

[Toxi]

/DEAD

This is one of the most hilarious cards I've seen.

The best part is the combination of the flavor text and what actually happens if this ever connects with Thassa. Kiora reminds me of a ten-year-old Timmy whose octopus was the biggest creature in her first pack.

 

[Firemind]

Kiora u mad jelly?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Planeswalkers are the most hilarious cards ever. People trip all over themselves to kill your Planeswalker even when its not really doing anything and doesn't pose any kind of immediate threat.