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[WanderingWind]

By that logic you can also say it's 'playable' in legacy, vintage, modern and standard.

Again, playability is super meta-dependent. I've seen EDH groups that have ultra-tuned decks that can win pretty quickly and consistently and I've seen EDH groups that have "throw everything in a pile and just have fun" decks. Likewise, there are plenty of people who play standard with subpar decks and do well, because everyone else in their meta is also using subpar decks. In competitive EDH (for lack of a better term) there are plenty of cards that are unplayable.

Uh, no. Unless you just take the weirdest possible interpretation, it does not follow. Yes, technically you can put anything into a legacy deck. But unless you're absolutely unaware of what the legacy format actually entails, there really shouldn't be any confusion between the different formats. Commander is a casual, non-officially sanctioned format that was created by fans, for fans. Again, it's not a knock on it. I have like, 8 different commander decks.

...and yes, if your local meta is 100 percent graveyard hate, then anything zombie may not be playable. Again, this is really a semantic argument of the worst kind. You know darn well the difference between a playable card and an unplayable one. Commander is factually, unequivocally the Magic format that allows for the greatest range of actually playable cards.

 

[Grakl]

I just don't want mythic standard staples because of prices being high as a result

 

[Angry Grimace]

I just don't want mythic standard staples because of prices being high as a result

Something will be expensive regardless.

 

[JulianImp]

Talking about Commander, it reminds me how I wish there was an active community for it at my LGS. Still, I'm the kind of guy who downright refuses to play tutors in EDH because I feel it defeats the point of the format, which'd probably put me at a big disadvantage if I ever started playing.

All this also reminds me how it's been about two months since I last set foot on my LGS. I guess I'll try to attend the M15 prerelease for a change, but I guess I'm back to lurking in the Magic community until I have more time and money to spend on the game.

 

[OnPoint]

I just don't want mythic standard staples because of prices being high as a result

I'd rather every mythic is a playable than get shit like Archangel's Light and Worst Fears.

 

[Grakl]

Something will be expensive regardless.

yeah, but mythics are more expensive

 

[Yeef]

Commander is factually, unequivocally the Magic format that allows for the greatest range of actually playable cards.

I don't disagree with that.

What I disagree with is:

EDH is literally the format where anything is playable. That's the entire point of the format.

There are plenty of cards that are just plain bad in EDH. Because of the high variance of the format, you might be able to get away with running a couple of them, but if you have a deck that's filled with them, odds are you're going to lose a lot, unless your opponents' decks are equally de-tuned.

 

[WanderingWind]

Okay, well agree to disagree, I suppose. Nothing you're saying is swaying me and I'm not moving you, so it's just not going to go anywhere.

Friends?

SIKE IMMA PLAY MY LANDS IN FRONT WHEN WE PLAY NEXT SON

 

[ultron87]

Squire is just as bad in EDH as everywhere else.

 

[Firemind]

Talking about Commander, it reminds me how I wish there was an active community for it at my LGS. Still, I'm the kind of guy who downright refuses to play tutors in EDH because I feel it defeats the point of the format, which'd probably put me at a big disadvantage if I ever started playing.

All this also reminds me how it's been about two months since I last set foot on my LGS. I guess I'll try to attend the M15 prerelease for a change, but I guess I'm back to lurking in the Magic community until I have more time and money to spend on the game.

Play Strangehold breh.

 

[Yeef]

SIKE IMMA PLAY MY LANDS IN FRONT WHEN WE PLAY NEXT SON

OH GOD, YOU VILLAIN! D:

 

[blindrocket]

EDIT: Rocket, please to send me your email address.

blindrocket@gmail


Dot com


I don't crack packs because of unplayable jank.

 

[WanderingWind]

OH GOD, YOU VILLAIN! D:

I might even tap my lands 45 degrees. To the left.

 

[JulianImp]

Play Strangehold breh.

If you meant the card, it's nearly impossible for me to get since nobody has Commander product, and I won't be ordering a single card from the internet. If you're talking about a variant of regular Commander, the biggest issue I currently have is that my LGS doesn't even have a Commaner community to start with, so trying to play a sub-format would make finding a playgroup even harder.

 

[blindrocket]

For my Prossh Commander deck.

Hello little 2/3 Kobolds.

 

[Firemind]

Supersizing kobolds into kird apes.

Caleb Durward made a standard U/R devotion video. I must play this deck in the upcoming GP. It is my destiny.

 

[Haly]

So, if I was playing Mono U in Standard right now, I'd throw one or two of those into the deck for shits and giggles with Master of Wave.

 

[OnPoint]

For my Prossh Commander deck.

Hello little 2/3 Kobolds.

It makes the 1998 kid in me scream "Slivers!".

 

[Angry Grimace]

So, if I was playing Mono U in Standard right now, I'd throw one or two of those into the deck for shits and giggles with Master of Wave.

Hall of Triumph is played in some Mono U lists.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

The new card frame has grown on me at this point; I actually kind of like it.

The new card name font, however - that still looks very odd to me.

 

[Haly]

Hall of Triumph is played in some Mono U lists.

Yeah I know, this is jankier than that.

Janky magic christmasland da bes.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Yeah I know, this is jankier than that.

Janky magic christmasland da bes.

Yeah, I mean, if your devotion to blue is 5, you can cast Master of Waves and then Convoke this thing out for "free" immediately. So OP.

 

[red13th]

Supersizing kobolds into kird apes.

Caleb Durward made a standard U/R devotion video. I must play this deck in the upcoming GP. It is my destiny.

That deck got steamrolled by Master of Waves though.

 

[Haly]

Yeah, I mean, if your devotion to blue is 5, you can cast Master of Waves and then Convoke this thing out for "free" immediately. So OP.

4 is enough, since I assume you're getting that UUU from at least one other creature.

Other creature + Master + 4 Elementals + This.

MAGIC CHRISTMASLAND FOR ALL.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

That deck got steamrolled by Master of Waves though.

In general, the deck doesn't look like it's going to be that good against anything other than Black Devotion.

 

[platypotamus]

Wait, can you tap creatures with summoning sickness for convoke?

 

[Haly]

Wait, can you tap creatures with summoning sickness for convoke?

Sure, it's part of a cost, and not the tap symbol kind, so it's not affected by summoning sickness.

I mean, that's how Elfball works!

 

[TheSeks]

I believe I heard that one out of every 53 packs contain a "Special Rarity" card, so since Lotus is one of nine, that means that 0.21% of packs contain a Black Lotus.

Ugh, I can't even trade a pack for a Lotus because they're that rare? T_T

Wizards, Y U DO THIS to digital!? D:


(Yes, yes, I get it: So everyone and their mother doesn't have a Power 9)

 

[Angry Grimace]

Ugh, I can't even trade a pack for a Lotus because they're that rare? T_T

Wizards, Y U DO THIS to digital!? D:


(Yes, yes, I get it: So everyone and their mother doesn't have a Power 9)

I pulled a Lotus and sold it at the bottom barrel price before it doubled. =/

I'm slowly picking up power when I get the money to do so. So far only have Mox Jet, Emerald, Ancestral Recall and Timetwister. Lotus is going to be the pain rebuying since it's 3x every other one.

 

[platypotamus]

Sure, it's part of a cost, and not the tap symbol kind, so it's not affected by summoning sickness.

I mean, that's how Elfball works!

My entire life has been a lie.

Looks like I owe my wife an apology about "correcting" her when she was Glare of Subdual-ing all my guys.

 

[Haly]

My entire life has been a lie.

Looks like I owe my wife an apology about "correcting" her when she was Glare of Subdual-ing all my guys.

LOL.

Yeah, better take her out to dinner too. You just scum-rulebook'd Ghazi-Glare, which won Worlds in 2005.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

My entire life has been a lie.

Looks like I owe my wife an apology about "correcting" her when she was Glare of Subdual-ing all my guys.

Oh man. Yeah, chocolates, flowers, dinner - whatever she's into. You dun goofed.

Summoning sickness only affects attacking and abilities on that card with the actual "Tap" symbol. Anything else that taps things as a cost (for example, Black Oak of Odunos in Born of the Gods) doesn't care if that thing has summoning sickness or not.

Also, I'm sad that Glare of Subdual isn't a thing in Modern. That card is sweet.

 

[red13th]

A ghetto Ghazi-Glare was the first actual deck I built after my huge break (Masques-Ravnica). I built one because I bought the Selesnya precon and I had tons of fun with it. When Guildpact was released I built Gruul aggro and UG Snakes which used no actual Simic cards (it was a blast to play, lots of nifty interactions).
I still have those three decks mostly intact. Ravnica was so good.

 

[Grakl]

The new card frame has grown on me at this point; I actually kind of like it.

The new card name font, however - that still looks very odd to me.

I agree, seeing the new card frame with the spoilers made me realize it actually looks pretty cool

 

[divisionbyzorro]

http://i.imgur.com/OeGniCD.jpg

Translated:

Ajani Unyielding 3W
+1: Up to one target creature you control gets +1/+1, First Strike, and Vigilance until end of turn.
-2: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control. Put a loyalty counter on each other planeswalker you control
-7: You get an emblem that says "Prevent all but 1 damage from any source that would deal damage to you or a Planeswalker you control."

Starting Loyalty: 4

 

[Yeef]

 

[ultron87]

Aaw, he's wearing Elspeth's cloak.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I love the Soul of Theros artwork.

 

[The Technomancer]

http://i.imgur.com/OeGniCD.jpg

Translated (lots of people disagreeing on the proper translations here):

Ajani the Resolute 3W
+1: Put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature you control. It gains First Strike and Lifelink until end of turn.
-2: Put a +1/+1 counter on all creatures you control, then put a loyalty counter on all other planeswalkers you control
-7: You get an emblem that says "If you or a planeswalker you control would take damage, prevent all but 1 of that damage"

Starting Loyalty: 4

The fuck? This seems pretty good

 

[keeblerdrow]

I definitely like Ajani in a Bant shell with Kiora. Ramp to Krakens. You could potentially have Turn 6 Krakens with no other ramp, just getting to 4 land.

Edit: Turn 6 Krakens and a still alive Kiora, also, if I'm doing my math right. (Nope, she's still dead on second thought. Still. Krakens are nice.)

 

[divisionbyzorro]

The Ajani translation seems to be fixed now. Mostly the same, although the +1 now reads "+1: Up to one target creature you control gets +1/+1, First Strike, and Vigilance until end of turn."

 

[Crocodile]

http://i.imgur.com/OeGniCD.jpg

Translated:

Ajani Unyielding 3W
+1: Up to one target creature you control gets +1/+1, First Strike, and Vigilance until end of turn.
-2: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control. Put a loyalty counter on each other planeswalker you control
-7: You get an emblem that says "Prevent all but 1 damage from any source that would deal damage to you or a Planeswalker you control."

Starting Loyalty: 4

Some translations I've seen add Lifelink to the first ability and others have the Emblem only apply to your Planeswalkers. I'm going to wait until I see this in English to comment on the card.

 

[bigkrev]

As translated, that Ajani seems terrible. No way to protect himself, possibly the worst ultimate we've seen so far.

 

[Yeef]

Permanent Forcefield for you and your planeswalkers and "gain 100 life" aren't all that different in practical terms, though I think the former is a little better.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Some translations I've seen add Lifelink to the first ability and others have the Emblem only apply to your Planeswalkers. I'm going to wait until I see this in English to comment on the card.

This translation comes from Riki Hayashi, so I tend to believe it.

EDIT: Reddit insists Riki was wrong. So...who knows?

As translated, that Ajani seems terrible. No way to protect himself, possibly the worst ultimate we've seen so far.

Something about this guy strikes me as being better than he seems.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I mean, what relevant three-drops would you want that ability for? It's pretty uneventful on Brimaz or Flamespeaker since they still won't be able to attack through most good 4-drops like poly-k or ddemon. I guess giving Agent of the fates vigilance and first strike is ok.

It doesn't seem like there are any spoilers in M15 yet where that ability makes sense, and the minus ability seems too slow for white weenies and too low impact for superfriends.

 

[rCIZZLE]

Something about this guy strikes me as being better than he seems.

That's how I'm feeling too. Not clear what kind of shell he'd work best in though.

 

["God's Beard!"]

You know what? It might be good with an Eidolon of Countless battles deck.

 

[WanderingWind]

All the translations I'm seeing say lifelink. In any event, it's a low cost, easily splashed PW that does stuff to the battlefield right away. The minus ability absolutely has the ability to just win games. He'll see play for sure.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Also, having a new Ajani in back-to-back sets is weird.