Run B/W Zombies, imo.
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I wasn't paying attention to the GP this weekend, what happened with Eggs?
Kibler twice F6'd IRL by having a judge watch while he went to the bathroom. Conley played the deck and apologized to his opponents (and called for a ban on twitter.) And it won the tournament.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/gpsd13/day1#11
Deck's got the Sensei's top problem.
That sounds absolutely ridiculous and obnoxious. I haven't seen the deck in action since it won a GP or whatever sometime last year, how often does an Eggs player's turn usually last?
divisionbyzorro
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To be more specific: he actually wrote "F6" on a piece of paper and put in the view of the camera before leaving.
It's actually worse than Sensei's Divining Top, as your opponent at least gets to do stuff in between your Top activations. With Eggs, once your opponent starts going, you just have to either concede or watch the table for 10 minutes. It's completely non-interactive.
If you ban Second Sunrise, you remove the 3cc recursion effect, and you force the deck to find one of four cards each time it recycles rather than one of eight. It goes back to being a fringe deck that can't put up consistent results, and the problem should go away.
It's a shame, actually, because the deck is cool. I like quirky combo decks, but decks that win by playing solitaire for 10-15 minutes are just bad for the game.
Sounds pretty bad and I'm impatient even with stuff like High Tide.
Yeah it clearly needs to be neutered. Don't blame Kibler for doing what he did.
TestMonkey
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Finals game 1. At life at 4. Opponent at 20.
Brainstorm, Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame (met by Spell Pierce, countering it), Rite of Flame, fetchland fail-to-find (to try to bait out Stifle), Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, and Burning Wish. Burning Wish found Past in Flame, which Bryant then cast. Rite of Flame met opponents Daze, but Dark Ritual in response allowed Bryant to pay for Daze. Another Dark Ritual (flashed back, as were all of the spells now), Duress (taking Stifle), Rite of Flame, Gitaxian Probe (going to 1), playing Lions Eye Diamond right off the top and broken for three blue mana, Ponder into Lions Eye Diamond (adding another three blue), Gitaxian Probe (paying mana), Cabal Therapy naming Swords to Plowshares, Burning Wish for Grapeshot.
Storm for 21, one damage targeting Vendilion Clique and twenty targeting opponent.
But the delver deck is the fun one. Right...
Yea I like the idea of the deck, but it really is just absolutely miserable to play against or watch.
EsotericManiac
Banned
I really liked that U/W/R legacy deck in the finals. If my Geists weren't stolen I could build that deck actually.
BTW, that storm deck top decking lion's eye was the nut draw
BTW, that storm deck top decking lion's eye was the nut draw
Never said otherwise. Just that the delver deck was on stream like 4 or 5 times yesterday.
EsotericManiac
Banned
The delver deck has way more interaction and you do get to play with some fun cards.
The storm deck just wins games. It's really not a fun deck.
The storm deck just wins games. It's really not a fun deck.
Cartel Aristocrat seems like a must in B/W decks. Add Lingering Souls, Doomed Traveler, Champion of the Parish, Knight of Infamy to your deck. Extorting is pretty slow and probably not worth building around since it consumes your mana resource. I wouldn't know what to really run if you decided to go the B/W zombie route though.
Watched some of the online PT matches and a lot of players were missing the Evolve triggers. The casters even said more than half missed several triggers that would have changed the games outcome.
Keru_Shiri
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That's crazy, if true. I remember drafting an Extort-heavy deck (Kingpin's Pet is my favorite limited card out of Gatecrash) and almost all of my plays revolved around getting maximum benefit off of Extort. Perhaps it's easier to miss when you're playing online.
EsotericManiac
Banned
My two friends played in the semi-final feature match (standard open) sunday morning. Unfortunately, I was up late and had to watch the replay. What are the chances?
Nah, since Magic Online automatically puts all triggers on the stack at the appropriate time. If anything, it makes it easier for you to remember the triggers when playing paper magic (unless you get too complacent with letting the game spot triggers for you).
I built an Eggs deck a few years ago (before Shadowmoor, I think), and I remember it was interesting to play, but not necesarily fun. Against aggro decks, both of us were basically goldfishing to see whether I could go off before my opponents dealt me the 20th point of damage. I retired the deck after a single tournament, since I hated the way it worked.
If they want to neuter it, they could simply remove one of the two Second Sunrise effects, or they could cripple it by banning Reshape, since Eggs rarely wants to play its Lotus Blooms through suspend.
On second thought, it all depends on whether they want the deck to remain slightly viable (ban Sunrise) or simply nuking it from orbit (ban Reshape). If they want to put an end to ten-minute turns, they'd have to ban the Blooms, but I don't think they should do that. Reshape's their best bet to make the deck play its Blooms fairly (as in: you'd barely be able to combo out with a Second Sunrise, a single Bloom, a Ghost Quarter, an Island and some cogs), but that'd probably kill it as well...
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I was thinking the same thing. The had a winner. "Statistical" tie is BS...lol. Votes were counted, land won. "Do over" is bullshit.
So, what do we want the enchantment they've already made to say?
divisionbyzorro
Member
So now that Modern PTQ season is over, how long do you guys think it'll be before modern staples start seeing a price drop on MTGO? I've been needing to pick up some Cliques, Cryptics, and a few other things, but I've been holding off until PTQ season was done.
narcosis219
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All lands you control have "{T}, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice CARDNAME: Search your library for a Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain or Forest card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library."
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Omni Fetch!
But, I get that runoffs are a thing. But when there is a winner, there is a winner. Trying to force what you want to happen is BS. It's an online poll. They don't need to worry about miscounted ballots.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Fixed that for you. Because of Steppe Lynx and his bretheren.
Also, probably broken even with that.
Gatekeeper
Member
Pay 2, maybe 3 life, and you have a balanced card. They might still have to come into play tapped.
Vincent Alexander
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Much appreciated!
Anyone have any thoughts on this Eldrazi deck?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-cruelty-of-the-eldrazi-gods/
divisionbyzorro
Member
So I've been playing Goblin tribal in Modern this week...
Holy shit if the deck isn't explosive. I need to jam a lot more with it, but the deck has some serious firepower. I usually push RB burn as the go-to entry-level Modern deck, but this is an order of magnitude cheaper and way more fun to play. Legion Loyalist and Foundry Street Denizen from Gatecrash are real cards, and the interaction between Mogg War Marshal and Denizen is truly nuts.
I'm testing out a number of different cards, so I have some strange one-ofs, but this is the list I'm on at the moment:
Holy shit if the deck isn't explosive. I need to jam a lot more with it, but the deck has some serious firepower. I usually push RB burn as the go-to entry-level Modern deck, but this is an order of magnitude cheaper and way more fun to play. Legion Loyalist and Foundry Street Denizen from Gatecrash are real cards, and the interaction between Mogg War Marshal and Denizen is truly nuts.
I'm testing out a number of different cards, so I have some strange one-ofs, but this is the list I'm on at the moment:
Modern Goblins said:
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I talked about using Lighting Bolt in goblins and was laughed out of the thread. I totally agree with the way you've constructed your deck, though I disagree strongly with denizen being in there - especially 4 times. TBH, I would run an honorary goblin like Ash Zealot or go with more token makers. You definitely don't want auras in this deck (you know that though) because you want to kill your own shit to kill them. No need to 2-fer yourself.
show me the receipts
divisionbyzorro
Member
Denizen is quite good. A not unreasonable draw is something like T1 Denizen, T2 Legion Loyalist and Goblin Guide, for 6 damage T2. Mogg War Marshal and Krenko's Command both pump him up twice when you cast them, and Mogg War Marshal does it again the next turn. With Goblin Assault in the board, he's always attacking for 2. Sometimes you sandbag him for a Bushwhacker turn and just go off. He has always outperformed his reputation, and I'm never sad to see him in my opener - and he gets better in multiples.
The deck does need a critical mass of 1cc goblins to function. The trouble is that most 1cc goblins that are modern legal aren't very good! I'd certainly be willing to look at other possibilities, but so far Denizen has been performing quite well.
And I wouldn't run anything that's not a goblin. I need Goblin Grenade to always be live.
Keru_Shiri
Member
Yeah... I wanna know who was dissin' Bolt as well. A deck like this seems like 4 Bolts would be an auto-include. Hell, if anything, I'd throw in 4 more burn spells just to help keep the path clear or for that extra reach.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I'll find it. Was definitely in the first OT.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Goblin Chieftain at 3cmc is perfect. I've never been unhappy to have it land. And even with Zealot, grenade is always live. Wardriver is good, as mentioned.
keeblerdrow
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divisionbyzorro
Member
I have him in my collection, but I haven't tested him yet. He seems like a less good Goblin Bushwhacker, and I don't know what else I would cut from the 2cc slot to include him, but I should try everything a few times before discounting it.
I do have three Dismembers in the side if necessary, but I don't really want to overload on removal when the deck functions best by assembling a mass of disposable goblins. The deck really wants to get you to 5 or 8 and then throw goblins at your face to win, unlike say, Zoo, which functions by picking off key creatures so the battlefield stays full of favorable attacks. It's rare that you have completely favorable attacks after turn 3, so picking off creatures with removal is often less effective than just zerging in full-bore and throwing burn at your opponent's face.
The card I need to pick up next is Shared Animosity - this deck has singlehandedly moved this from a 10 cent rare to over 2 tickets on MTGO since March...
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/card/Shared+Animosity+[MOR]
Already have Chieftains in the deck. I've thought about putting another lord in the deck (Goblin King comes to mind), but I like that the curve is really low...
Shockwasteland!
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Tap: add 1.
Tap, sac, pay 2 life: destroy target nonbasic land.
divisionbyzorro
Member
So have you heard the story about the guy who found a random safe in a house that he bought, recently figured out how to crack it open, and found what's likely tens of thousands of dollars worth of Magic cards inside?
http://www.reddit.com/r/WhatsInThis...this_thing_has_been_sitting_in_my_house_ever/
http://www.reddit.com/r/WhatsInThis...this_thing_has_been_sitting_in_my_house_ever/
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
How super convenient, after the major karma train about the guy with a similar story two days ago or so. Suddenly, everybody just found a safe in their house and cracked it open! Somebody found George Washington sitting in one, alive and well. Turns out he's been the writer for every major pop song of the past 120 years! Except Purple Rain.
Prince writes his own shit.
Is it wrong that I assume every one of these stories on Reddit are fake?
Would be a pretty awesome find though if true
Little Old Man
Member
All sounds way too good to be true.
On the other hand the way he lets the kid handle the binders in the Youtube videos.....
Fake cards, or he doesn't know the true value I'm guessing.
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