The Technomancer
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I do wonder if the shift to the two block model shuffled around what was on the table. Or else it might have been "revisit somewhere popular" without something locked in yet.
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Magic: the Gathering - Battle for Zendikar |OT| Lands matter (but nothing else does)
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I do wonder if the shift to the two block model shuffled around what was on the table. Or else it might have been "revisit somewhere popular" without something locked in yet.
charlequin
Banned
Ugh.
Everyone suggesting this is doing so to make fun of how bad the Magic storytelling is, right? Given that it retcons 100% of the Innistrad backstory and makes no sense with any of the characters involved.
See I originally assumed they kept the fall sets from the 7YP the same and filled new stuff into the spring slots, but when I asked Maro on Blogatog he said that they compressed the plan instead.
That said, he's also said a bunch that this plan changed a lot from inception. Maybe this used to be NNP and they bumped that back then filled this in its place?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
And do we really need a white Ob Nixilis?
SigmasonicX
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Transform is undoubtedly a returning mechanic in SoI, but what about the others?
Flashback - Popular, but it was a returning mechanic even in Innistrad. Still, I'd say this is pretty likely.
Curse - Could go either way. It was a minor mechanic that doesn't need too many cards.
Morbid - Also could go either way, but it seems like the most likely of the first set mechanics to be left behind.
Fateful Hour - No.
Undying - I don't think so, since it could appear in any setting, and I suspect that they would want to bring back persist first.
Miracle - No.
Soulbond - Maybe?
Flashback - Popular, but it was a returning mechanic even in Innistrad. Still, I'd say this is pretty likely.
Curse - Could go either way. It was a minor mechanic that doesn't need too many cards.
Morbid - Also could go either way, but it seems like the most likely of the first set mechanics to be left behind.
Fateful Hour - No.
Undying - I don't think so, since it could appear in any setting, and I suspect that they would want to bring back persist first.
Miracle - No.
Soulbond - Maybe?
charlequin
Banned
Yeah I'm just straightforwardly excited for more non planeswalker DFCs, honestly. Seeing how they approached BFZ's returning mechanics makes it really hard for me to believe they wouldn't come back.
SigmasonicX
Member
They've said that a red Snapcaster Mage wouldn't have flash, but it occurs to me, wouldn't this card be really good anyway?
Redcaster Shaman - 1R
Creature - Human Shaman
Haste, Prowess
When Redcaster Shaman enters the battlefield, target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost. (You may cast that card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
2/1
Even without prowess, it seems pretty strong.
Redcaster Shaman - 1R
Creature - Human Shaman
Haste, Prowess
When Redcaster Shaman enters the battlefield, target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost. (You may cast that card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
2/1
Even without prowess, it seems pretty strong.
charlequin
Banned
Soulbond and Curses are the best options I think. Miracles proved problematic, undying is better to save and use elsewhere, morbid arms like it would play too similarly to the first time.
We already had this card in Origins.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Miracles was such intense bullshit that of course its coming back =V
Me too. I'm worried Innistrad is just going to have the Fairy Tale plane stuff wedged into the crevices and they're not going to bother with an actual plane with that concept.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Esper Control looks to have a great matchup against Yore Tiller
Yeah, it has to be back. Transform was the *thing* for Innistrad after the theme. Innistrad without Transform would feel like Ravnica without a 2 color theme. That is an exaggeration, but not that big of an exaggeration.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The problem with Innistrad is that almost all of the mechanics are ones I'd like to come back, but they don't really do that.
phazedplasma
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The Technomancer
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The problem with Innistrad is that with Avacyn back...all of the monsters are under control.
Weren't all the werewolves turned into Wolfir in Avacyn Restored? I mean WOTC has shown they aren't above retconning shit but that still means some retconning has to occur. That or something dumb like "Avacyn turns evil" or some nonsense.
On a side note, I'm also amused that WOTC didn't drop Commander Spoilers earlier because they didn't want the spotlight to be divided among products that weren't coming out near each other and now we have the "shadows" of Innistrad looming over Commander 2015
I mean I figured Snapcaster was off the table due to development (boo-urns) but I did forgot about the promo. That being said, promos are NOT enough to meaningfully increase supplies of cards that are over-priced. WOTC seems to think this rather often and its stupid as all fuck
They've said as much. Something akin to "Liliana will have a big role in the block after Battle for Zendikar"
On a side note, I'm also amused that WOTC didn't drop Commander Spoilers earlier because they didn't want the spotlight to be divided among products that weren't coming out near each other and now we have the "shadows" of Innistrad looming over Commander 2015
I mean I figured Snapcaster was off the table due to development (boo-urns) but I did forgot about the promo. That being said, promos are NOT enough to meaningfully increase supplies of cards that are over-priced. WOTC seems to think this rather often and its stupid as all fuck
They've said as much. Something akin to "Liliana will have a big role in the block after Battle for Zendikar"
I guess this also kills Return to New Phyrexia for Fall 2016. WOTC isn't that creatively bankrupt/desperate to do three "Return to _____" blocks in a row.
Well supply does need to be replenished so......they should get on that in some fashion
Well supply does need to be replenished so......they should get on that in some fashion
SigmasonicX
Member
Not if Eldrazi or Phyrexians invade.
The Technomancer
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While I doubt its this block, I do think that its more likely that the next Phyrexian set isn't strictly a "Return to New Phyrexia" and is probably an invasion set
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
All Return Standard! Couldn't be worse than "play the best cards" nonsense they have now.
Who wants Return to Mirrodin in any capacity?
How about "play all of yesteryear's best cards"?
Bloody feather leads me to believe the monsters are going to create their own religion to counter Avacyn.
Angel of Despair reprint, Fallen Angel reprint
Abbot is a good card but still a tad below Snapcaster. Had it haste it would've been as good, even at RR. Without haste it's sometimes a bit awkward to play, especially in older formats light on lands, and i don't understand why wotc insist on making everything splashable anyway.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Innistrad is one of the best sets they've ever made, and from a creative perspective (lore and visual design) I think its flat out the best they've ever done
With that said, I'm somewhat cynical about design the last couple years, we'll see if it lives up to its predecessor.
Oh wow. That's exciting!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm still bothered by a plane set in architecturally and fashion wise fictional 18th -19th century still uses swords and bows.
I'd agree with this and I've never even played the set when it came out. Something about gothic horror feels "right" for MTG, some of the earliest cards had that vibe.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Meh, I'm not honestly. I think if you really approach London levels of modern steampunk style the lack of firearms gets weird, but Innistrad's more "northeast America", Salem vibe doesn't feel too awkward.
Seriously, look at this shit:
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Isn't one of those guys literally wearing a bluecoat? W/o guns there's not really a reason for armor or at least chainmail to go away.
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SigmasonicX
Member
I think we'll see Kaladesh after Innistrad. Then Vryn following that. From there, it's hard to say, but it seems likely that Theros and New Phyrexia will be close; Elspeth's story is pretty closely tied to the Phyrexians, so it seems unlikely that they'll go back to New Phyrexia without resolving her current state of limbo, either directly before or after.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
In Modern we have Blood Moon so really nobody does that.
That art is terrible honestly.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Chances of Tibbles returning (as Rakdos): 100%
Innistrad smashed records and it probably got fast tracked for a return block.
divisionbyzorro
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I'm kind of excited. This will be the first set that I will have been around for both the original and the return!
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