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["God's Beard!"]

GB doesn't like it because reasons

I don't want to dump my bulk to maybe hopefully someday get a Tundra or Karakas if enough people decide they don't want theirs.

Also, I'm incredibly wary of points-based economies in general. Staggered asymmetrical "trades" incentivizes a level of continuous investment that I find somewhat suspicious.

 

[Royal_Flush]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";178123658]As much as I love Veronique, from the time I spent with her I could see why her art ended up like this. She doesn't give a flying fuck about industry commissions and just wants to make her own art.

She probably only came back to MTG on the condition that she could basically make the land look however she wants. Probably why she's only been on promos this set so far.

I mean, if she's doing assignments like this for Bethesda, I doubt if WotC could reel her in:

[/QUOTE]

I'd love to see something like this on a card (for an illusion or similar).

 

[Angry Grimace]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";178143677]I don't want to dump my bulk to maybe hopefully someday get a Tundra or Karakas if enough people decide they don't want theirs.

Also, I'm incredibly wary of points-based economies in general. Staggered asymmetrical "trades" incentivizes a level of continuous investment that I find somewhat suspicious.[/QUOTE]

IDK, man, I've sent off garbage I don't want to put effort into to list on eBay(e.g. foil Bruna Light of Alabasters and shit) and gotten Jaces and Hangarbacks and fetchlands in return so I think I'm doing okay.

(If you request a card a lot of people want, don't make change your profile name to "SEE RULES" and make your profile 5 paragraphs long and filled with warnings about fire and brimstone if there are any nicks on your received cards)

 

[OnPoint]

Yep, they have spiked recently

http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/5663
http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/5430

Wow that site sucks on mobile

 

[TheChits]

The Kamigawa block vignettes are still my favorite short stories in Magic history.

Eight and a Half Tales

Thankless Child

War's Wage

The Feldon story from The Colors of Magic is also great.

Loran's Smile

Thanks for this. Loran's Smile was great

 

[Reishiki]

Sensei's Divining Top is a miserable card and will almost certainly never be reprinted.

My casual circle threw some major shade my way when I started playing Divining Top with Counterbalance in one of my decks.

EDIT: I should point out that my entire circle don't really bother with tournaments or any legal formats, so suddenly bringing 'Countertop' to the table was a rather unpopular move.

 

[charlequin]

If I can even just get one for my commander decks I'll be happy. These things are going to be insanely $$$$. Will BFZ be the most opened set ever?

By a big margin, yes. The interesting thing is going to be seeing whether this spring's large set can compete.

Though I'm sure I'll never own one of the ZE lands, I love this approach by Wizards to regulate the price of Standard cards. I'd love to see them include more non-Standard legal reprints in future sets.

Yep, this is easily one of their best ideas in ages. I think that (as long as there are enough people interested in them) this basically works out well for everyone.

Shame on whoever actually puts that kind of money down on a card like this.

The rich jokers who buy these $400 lands are subsidizing prices for everyone else, so you should be happy!

If Cryptic Command can have a textless version, I don't see why these lands can't, as well.

There's a great moment in the Devign panel from PAX this year where Forsythe gets the other panelists to share their thoughts on some cards he names. He mentions Cryptic and the immediate response is "A great choice for a textless card! Especially how not only does it have multiple complex and distinct modes, but multiple complex and distinct modes where it matters what order you resolve them in."

 

[Angry Grimace]

Before they closed the loophole, they could have technically printed the ABU Duals as Treasures

I wonder what THOSE would have sold for.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Ulamog's Nullifier might be my new favorite card in the set. Mystic Snake is one of my favorite creatures of all time. These Processors have some serious diminishing returns, though.

Sensei's Divining Top is a miserable card and will almost certainly never be reprinted.

I've got my altered top in my Vendilion Clique EDH deck alongside a dozen or so counters including my Italian Force of Will

Riptide Lab is da bess

I do get tired of moving Expedition Map, Thespian's Stage and Dark Depths between all my EDH decks though ^_^

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Before they closed the loophole, they could have technically printed the ABU Duals as Treasures

I wonder what THOSE would have sold for.

"Hey guys, look what I just opened!!!"

*Cue the other 7 drafters brandishing handguns*

 

[The Technomancer]

Before they closed the loophole, they could have technically printed the ABU Duals as Treasures

I wonder what THOSE would have sold for.

You know, there's a fun calculation. Are more of any one of these treasures going to be opened up than currently exist copies of the ABU duals? Like, if they had made the ABU duals a treasure, when the dust settled which version would actually have more in the wild?

 

[OnPoint]

You know, Chapin is calling them the "Battle lands". I like that much better than any of the other alternatives.

 

[Horatorobor]

Someone at a cube last night used an Icy manipulator to keep me tapped out the whole game, today I discovered you needed to tap the artifact in order to tap :<
I could have an extra round.
Also the card was old and didn't say it needed to tap it.

 

["God's Beard!"]

You know, Chapin is calling them the "Battle lands". I like that much better than any of the other alternatives.

So far Tangolands is the only one that describes the land's ability without sounding like garbage so I'll stick with the consensus.

 

[ZeroX03]

Lots of bomb rares? Considering whether to go to the prerelease. Sealed sucks so hard compared to drafting.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Someone at a cube last night used an Icy manipulator to keep me tapped out the whole game, today I discovered you needed to tap the artifact in order to tap :<
I could have an extra round.
Also the card was old and didn't say it needed to tap it.

Back in the day, Mono Artifacts as a rule had to be tapped to use. There were also Poly Artifacts that don't tap, and Continuous Artifacts. And all artifacts couldn't do anything when tapped. If that guy knew this, then slap the cards out of his hand next game.

 

[Neoweee]

Someone at a cube last night used an Icy manipulator to keep me tapped out the whole game, today I discovered you needed to tap the artifact in order to tap :<
I could have an extra round.
Also the card was old and didn't say it needed to tap it.

People that use old versions of cards in cubes are douches, IMO. Not everybody was playing Magic at all times, and it is better to use a version that is actually understandable and correct in its wording, rather than requiring everybody that is playing to know decades worth of rule revisions.

 

[Crocodile]

Someone at a cube last night used an Icy manipulator to keep me tapped out the whole game, today I discovered you needed to tap the artifact in order to tap :<
I could have an extra round.
Also the card was old and didn't say it needed to tap it.

If somebody plays in a Cube draft or runs/makes a Cube, doesn't know how Icy Manipulator works and pulled this move on you, they are an ass straight up >_<

 

[Hackworth]

Someone at a cube last night used an Icy manipulator to keep me tapped out the whole game, today I discovered you needed to tap the artifact in order to tap :<
I could have an extra round.
Also the card was old and didn't say it needed to tap it.

Man I was straight up gonna laugh about that like "how did both of you miss the tap symbol" but apparently Magic templating was super messed up on those old cards. Like the one Sigma posted doesn't even say target.

I'm starting to think your opponent was being a prick.

 

[Jebusman]

Out of curiosity I uploaded what few rares/mythics I have left on Pucatrade. I have no idea what points are valued at. I'm assuming it corresponds to like 1 point to 1 US cent?

I'm hesitant to pass up my foil Elesh Norn and Karn Liberated, but I tend to only play Standard so it's not like they're doing me much good.

 

[The Technomancer]

People that use old versions of cards in cubes are douches, IMO. Not everybody was playing Magic at all times, and it is better to use a version that is actually understandable and correct in its wording, rather than requiring everybody that is playing to know decades worth of rule revisions.

Oh god my favorite example of this is Goblin Balloon Brigade

 

[SigmasonicX]

Oh god my favorite example of this is Goblin Balloon Brigade

For the record, this is what it's supposed to do:

But with

you can give all goblins flying!

 

[Joe Molotov]

For the record, this is what it's supposed to do:

But with

you can give all goblins flying!

Also good for accidentally reprinting Black Lotus.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Also good for accidentally reprinting Black Lotus.

Took me a second, but as written, you can tap it for mana in response to the enters the battlefield effect. The errata is:

If Lotus Vale would enter the battlefield, sacrifice two untapped lands instead. If you do, put Lotus Vale onto the battlefield. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard.

I really do hate that wording.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

You know, Chapin is calling them the "Battle lands". I like that much better than any of the other alternatives.

The Loading Ready Run guys are trying to push "Charmlands" on their latest podcast. If it wasn't for the fact that "charms" already have meaning in Magic, I'd be completely willing to support that.

 

[Jhriad]

The Loading Ready Run guys are trying to push "Charmlands" on their latest podcast. If it wasn't for the fact that "charms" already have meaning in Magic, I'd be completely willing to support that.

I don't get it. What does that even mean?

Christ, they're tangolands. Move on already.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Battle for Battle for Zendikar Lands

 

[Hackworth]

I've been calling them Laglands or Latelands (because they enter untapped later than the original duals), but Tangolands is good too.

What were the Scars lands called? Maybe a name could play off that.

 

[kirblar]

Fastlands or Scars duals.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I don't get it. What does that even mean?

Christ, they're tangolands. Move on already.

It's another pop-culture (?) phrase: "Third time's the charm." Really the only reason I would support it (if it didn't already have meaning in Magic parlance) is that it's two syllables to the three for "tangoland."

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Just call the new dual lands what they are:

Spoiler

unplayable

.

 

[Hackworth]

Fastlands or Scars duals.

So Slowlands or BaZ Duals?

 

[kirblar]

I think the problem with Slow Lands is Snow Lands. ><

These definitely aren't very good (deliberately so) but they do really help the format's mana a ton while fetches are around.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Tangolands is so good. I dunno why people are against it. It's easy to remember and it's very descriptive of the cycle's ability.

Slowlands/laglands or whatever is really ambiguous and could refer to any number of lands, and Battle lands isn't even a name and worse, it's misleading since it implies some sort of combat effect.

 

[Yeef]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";178177265]Tangolands is so good. I dunno why people are against it. It's easy to remember and it's very descriptive of the cycle's ability.[/QUOTE]Some people seem to think that because "It takes two to tango" isn't a ubiquitous phrase it makes people not familiar with the phrase have to ask about what it means (primarily international players).

 

[Angry Grimace]

Its just not as good as Bofalands.

 

[OnPoint]

Shame we can't just use bad lands.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Do international players even use the same nicknames for everything in the first place?

I recognize that idioms are the most difficult part of adapting to a new language, but is "English-speaking foreigner" a key demographic for regular communication?

 

[charlequin]

You know, there's a fun calculation. Are more of any one of these treasures going to be opened up than currently exist copies of the ABU duals?

The duals were also in Revised.

You know, Chapin is calling them the "Battle lands". I like that much better than any of the other alternatives.

It's the only non-shitty alternative people have proposed. It clearly defines the block (unlike Zen Duals which WotC would never go for) and doesn't try to do this nonsense where people are trying to act like "dual" means basic-land-types, not just a land that makes two colors.

 

[kirblar]

Double-Check lands is actually great but probably too long.

 

[Firemind]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";178178378]Do international players even use the same nicknames for everything in the first place?

I recognize that idioms are the most difficult part of adapting to a new language, but is "English-speaking foreigner" a key demographic for regular communication?[/QUOTE]
Star-Spangled Slaughter > Miss America > Angelfire > Jeskai

 

[Toxi]

We shouldn't worry too much about slang anyways. Whatever people end up using, we'll be using those same terms in a year.

 

[Shrennin]

This is a good time to get back into Magic, isn't it? :/

 

[divisionbyzorro]

This is a good time to get back into Magic, isn't it? :/

Any time is a good time to get back into Magic! When's the last time you played?

 

[Exokell]

This is a good time to get back into Magic, isn't it? :/

Paper magic. Stay away from magic online.

 

[JulianImp]

Also good for accidentally reprinting Black Lotus.

Everybody knows that the best card to combo with R&D's Secret Lair is...

You don't choose, the card does. I wonder if us judges would be able to award the Spuzzem DQs for stalling... would we have to sign it up into the DCI in order to do that?

 

[Shrennin]

Any time is a good time to get back into Magic! When's the last time you played?

Since the first Zendikar set (so it's been awhile). I'm kinda near Star City Games, so it's always been hard to avoid the game, but I was waiting until the core sets were phased out, and the new mulligan rule makes a ton of sense.

Paper magic. Stay away from magic online.

Of course! I'll never play that unless it improves dramatically.

 

[Jhriad]

It's another pop-culture (?) phrase: "Third time's the charm."

Just feels like someone was trying to find another clever phrase to attach to the lands even if it didn't fit as well as Tango did.

This is a good time to get back into Magic, isn't it? :/

Never a bad time but there's probably something to be said about the start of a new set. Join us!

 

[Shrennin]

Never a bad time but there's probably something to be said about the start of a new set. Join us!

I will probably get into this. Magic is just so fun, and I love the art.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Just feels like someone was trying to find another clever phrase to attach to the lands even if it didn't fit as well as Tango did.

Santalands. Check 'em twice