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Magic: the Gathering - Battle for Zendikar |OT| Lands matter (but nothing else does)
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shrapnelmagnet
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";178183934]Santalands. Check 'em twice 
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Sold. I'm in.
[/QUOTE]Sold. I'm in.
divisionbyzorro
Member
!!!
What if these are the magical Christmaslands that we talk about so much?
(I'm completely willing to call these Santalands)
What if these are the magical Christmaslands that we talk about so much?
(I'm completely willing to call these Santalands)
Etrian Oddity
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Updated my Temur deck, in preparation for the loss of Elvish Mystic and other rotation. Fairing pretty well, hasn't lost yet.
Still the most successful deck I've run, including Abzan, Sultai, and Atarka Red.
Still the most successful deck I've run, including Abzan, Sultai, and Atarka Red.
Spoilers were so meh today. Watching MagicTV right now , and I love the argument that New Kiora is bad because she doesn't protect herself.
I hate that this is is a thing , not every planeswalker needs to protect itself to be playable. The old Kiora protected herself and wasn't amazing, same with Sarkhan the unbroken.
I just think she's better than people think
I hate that this is is a thing , not every planeswalker needs to protect itself to be playable. The old Kiora protected herself and wasn't amazing, same with Sarkhan the unbroken.
I just think she's better than people think
"God's Beard!"
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But they printed a flying mystic snake in better colors!
Joe Molotov
Member
Everybody knows that the best card to combo with R&D's Secret Lair is...
You don't choose, the card does. I wonder if us judges would be able to award the Spuzzem DQs for stalling... would we have to sign it up into the DCI in order to do that?
Floral Spuzzem is also the filthiest card ever printed.
SigmasonicX
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Seems legit.. Naya allies woo!
Huh I thought they put the allies in your hand. NVM I don't like it nearly as much.
You really thought they'd do repeated Ally card draw at that cost? This card will still be good in an Ally deck by ensuring a constant stream of Allies and no lands.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I made a sad little sound when I got to the end and was like "...and you don't get any of them"
A Serious Man
Member
What a tease.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Narset doesn't really either but Narset also is bad so there's that.
Kiora's minus compares a bit to Jace AOT which is a good thing.
They were totally riffing on Goblin Ringleader with that ability.
Seems legit.. Naya allies woo!
Huh I thought they put the allies in your hand. NVM I don't like it nearly as much.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They were totally riffing on Goblin Ringleader with that ability.
The elf version was in Origins! (Sylvan Messenger)
To be honest I didn't think of it as abusable like that, but with Collected Company and Gideon Ally already at 4 mana I'm skeptical it's better than those or what's to come.
Sweet, never realized that was a card.
Goblin Ringleader always makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Well Origins got its Goblin reprint with Goblin Piledriver
charlequin
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That isn't really a Rally ability.
Being RW locks Munda out of three colors of allies; there are only 13 allies pre-Battle for Zendikar in his color identity not counting Changelings. Combine that with RW being one of the worst color combos in EDH and the lack of card draw in those two colors, and he doesn't look great.
Really wish they made him RGW.
Yeh I wish they made a 5 color one, but Naya would have also made me happier.
Edit: 14 if you count Stonework Puma
"God's Beard!"
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Can we also point out the huge flavor fail of an Ambush Leader that tells the enemy what's coming ahead of time
It could provide a multi-turn distraction if you already have a good hand, but that's assuming way too much to be viable in Magic.
He leads the ambush. That's why he has haste. When he shows up, you've already been ambushed! The other guys are just slower to get into the fray.
If an ally deck is a real thing in standard, I think this guy will almost certainly see play. If it's super-aggressive, he might even be a curve topper. He can set up a Collected Company pretty well. If there's an ally with a Rally regrowth effect things can get especially silly.
If there's an ally deck in standard this guy won't be apart of it. How powerful is Sylvan Messanger ? Not very.
If this guy gets in off a collected company then we can talk about seeing real play.
Sylvan Messenger is a 2/2 that triggers once. This guy is a 3/4 with haste that potentially triggers every turn while also triggering other abilities.
If there's a regrowth ally, it will let you rebuy Collected Company ad infinitum, which would be silly.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm a little skeptical at a 4 drop in a tribal deck that doesn't give you any cards.
Let's not pretend that the fact Messenger puts the cards into your hand isn't a HUGE deal. Anyway, there was a competitive ally deck in the past, I certainly think its possible a new one will emerge too and if so this card will be part of it. Otherwise meh.
Even though he doesn't give you any card advantage, he gives you a lot of card selection and quality. Since allies (that we've seen) primarily work off ETB abilities, playing one each turn can put a ton of pressure on the opponent. In an aggressive deck that tops out at 4, being able to filter past your lands and hit gas each turn helps a ton.
A Serious Man
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I can definitely see him being a part of the Ally engine. He basically guarantees you'll be dropping a new Ally every turn, which is obviously the most critical aspect of making Allies work. Not getting the cards in hand is a drawback but that would be absurd considering the effect is going to go off once, and possibly multiple times, every turn.
acheron_xl
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Skyrider Elf is a weird design.
A Serious Man
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I like all of those. The Sifter might even see constructed play.
Shuggananas
Banned
Would this vampire thing stack with itself ? Yikes
I get the Elf but that cost/ability design is just some gobbledygook.
Okay really it's just sunburst. Like, the card would work fine if they simply called it sunburst.
I'm guessing there are other converge effects that do different things than +1/+1 counters.
Okay really it's just sunburst. Like, the card would work fine if they simply called it sunburst.
I'm guessing there are other converge effects that do different things than +1/+1 counters.
It's really neat even if the template is a mess (that X in the mana cost is gonna confuse so many people). At its worst, it's a 2/2 flyer for GU, aka Gaea's Skyfolk.
There are.
Shuggananas
Banned
So if you summon skyrider elf without mana (from another card) it basically enters the battlefield and dies right ahead ? eh
Tizoc
Member
No it enters as 2/2; one for Blue and the other for Green.
So max it could have when cast is 5/5.
Shuggananas
Banned
Technically if you summon it with another card you use no mana so it has 0 counters though ?
A Serious Man
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Well if you don't cast it, say you fetch it with Woodland Bellower, it's a 0/0 since its counters are assigned on cast.
Shuggananas
Banned
It just sounds kinda crappy, at least it's an ally, I guess that's a redeeming feature
A Serious Man
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2 for a 2/2 flyer that triggers Ally effects is very playable in limited. It's the sort of card you can get late in a pack and will be happy to take if you're in those colors.
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