Belcher is actually the type of deck that sometimes wins long games. Playing out petals and walls while drawing into a couple red blasts and rituals to beat soft counters is more effective than it should be. Helps that people aggressively mulligan to force which might leave them with nothing after they stop your first attempt.
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Belcher is actually the type of deck that sometimes wins long games. Playing out petals and walls while drawing into a couple red blasts and rituals to beat soft counters is more effective than it should be. Helps that people aggressively mulligan to force which might leave them with nothing after they stop your first attempt.
Little Old Man
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That's the first time I have ever seen the reserve list. I thought it was like 50 cards lol
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Hey guys,
First post in this thread. Do any of you know if Magic is currently the most relevant card game being played?
I played a lot of card games as a teenager but kind of fell out of it. I recently have felt a longing to pick something up again. I have never played magic, but I was wondering if this coupled with anything else is still being played a lot?
I am a big adenture time fan, and I heard there is a card game for that now too...
First post in this thread. Do any of you know if Magic is currently the most relevant card game being played?
I played a lot of card games as a teenager but kind of fell out of it. I recently have felt a longing to pick something up again. I have never played magic, but I was wondering if this coupled with anything else is still being played a lot?
I am a big adenture time fan, and I heard there is a card game for that now too...
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Any Eldrazi with Scion producing or trigger abilities on battlefield entrance and not casting come to mind. Thought-knot Seer among them.
ThLunarian
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NM Force of Will down to 60-ish dollars on tcgplayer right now. Tempted to grab some because who knows how long the lower prices will last
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
My wife is crying now. Thanks Eternal Masters.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Looks like they're part of a cycle with an ETB effect that repeats that effect if you have Delirium
GregLombardi
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Just bought one to complete one of my sets. That price is low for basically one of the best counter spells ever printed.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I would say so yes, in terms of general awareness, sales, competitive scene etc. If you're including digital games Hearthstone is the other one, but if we're talking physical cards Magic has pulled out in front of the pack ahead of Pokemon and YuGiOh
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
Ugh. Just bought a Karakas the other day. It was pretty cheap though, so I certainly hope if it finds it's way into this set the price doesn't take a huge hit.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
I was thinking of getting back into magic again. Do people still complain when you show up and play with nothing but basic lands that are proxies of super expensive cards that you don't own?
GregLombardi
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Proxies are hit or miss. If someone plays them against me and is doing it simply for testing purposes, I have no problem generally. But if we're playing commander over and over again and they are only using proxies...it's far less fun.
SigmasonicX
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Magic has actually been increasing in popularity over the last few years (granted, that's probably mostly due to growth worldwide). There's a big section in the opening post about starting out, if you're interested.
As for licensed card games like the Adventure Time one, the fact of the matter is that you're going to have a very hard time finding other people to play it with outside of conventions. TCGs are simply a hard market to break into in the United States.
That sort of thing is generally frowned upon for more recent cards, but it's tolerated for older cards that you'd have to shell out hundreds of dollars for. Just remember to alert the people you're playing with ahead of time.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Depends on the occasion, in commander in my LGS no one bats an eye. I personally am not a fan of playing with them myself though
I don't care if people use proxies for just playing fun games but you really should put in a little more effort than just writing card names on basic lands. Printing out proxies makes the experience a lot better for everybody involved.
I hope so. If you're going to proxy in public go most of the way and at least print out b&w pictures to slip in the sleves. Scribbled on lands is a horrible way to play.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Eerie Interlude your Goblin Dark-Dwellers, returns targeting Eerie Interlude, targeting Goblin Dark-Dwellers =V
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
welcome to value city
it's probably just a combination of artist maturation and wizards style guides
Nice to see Eternal Masters confirmed. I didn't realize until someone mentioned it earlier that Karakas wasn't on the Reserved List so I'm really hoping that's in this since it's one of the few staples that I don't have a set of. Shame Cradle is on there, though. Man fuck the Reserved List.
I want a set of those Wastelands. I have 2 sets of the original, but I'm a sucker for good art in the new frame.
I want a set of those Wastelands. I have 2 sets of the original, but I'm a sucker for good art in the new frame.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
It actually sounds like people are way more open to proxies than back when I used to play. I do like cracking packs and playing drafts, but I still hate the thought of spending hundreds of dollars just to have a competitive deck that will go out of rotation in a couple of months.
It looks like she gave them the base you see here and it was digitally altered.Looks like regular art to me:
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I honestly don't give a single nugget of a shit about the art of a card. I'm just excited more product is being introduced to the market. Old art, new art...as long as I got 4 of 'em and they're not fucking foils, I'm good.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Magic is and always will be a game for the affluent, unfortunately. I doubt you'll find people who will let you show up with a deck full of Plains with "Siege Rhino" written on it.
SigmasonicX
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Well, I mean, if you're playing Standard (the rotating format), then proxies are a complete no-go outside the most casual of casual groups, and even then, they'd probably only allow you to proxy lands.
If it were a casual game and they were at least readable proxies? I'd probably play. If it were 'Plains with 'Siege Rhino' written on them', casual game or serious, I would laugh them out of the state.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
have to quote this again but imagine.
Helicopter Parents, Ref. Mage, GDD in play, play eerie interlude blink all of them twice, get 4 tokens bounce 2 creatures that can't be played next turn and play another 3 CMC or less spell from your gy.
If you weren't winning already you should be now.
Hallowed moonlight wrecks you.
1 Wasteland sold, 3 more to go. Probably just going to sell forces next even if I doubt they'll tank much. Time to pick up LEDs and build belcher.
Btw, if anybody has belcher pieces (mostly Burning Wish, LED, and Chrome Mox) I'd be interested in trading for them. If you want forces I'll trade at a discount. If you want some other stuff like vials or duals I'll have a bunch of extra stuff to trade.
Btw, if anybody has belcher pieces (mostly Burning Wish, LED, and Chrome Mox) I'd be interested in trading for them. If you want forces I'll trade at a discount. If you want some other stuff like vials or duals I'll have a bunch of extra stuff to trade.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think that they probably were like "fuck" when Reflector Mage saw a ton of play after they printed all of these instant speed flickers.
All hail reflector mage
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I for one can't wait for my Risen Executioner deck to own face.
divisionbyzorro
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They tacked a 3 mana 4/4 onto Recoil in Gatecrash (Dinrova Horror). That card was so sweet.
It doesn't Landdeath anymore, but yeah, that's a really nice card
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Perhaps Madness will be better than we are imagining such that the discard isn't as good.
charlequin
Banned
I don't, but my friend who got four from Storage Wars is gonna be real happy he sold them last month, lol.
I don't think MTGO is really the limit there, they have a lot of other ways to get cards onto MTGO (e.g. Commander 2015 wasn't sold as-is either.) I think the bigger issue is just that there's a market for a semi-limited reprint set every year so unless they decide they can do a wacky/multiplayer product as well each year the latter are gonna get squeezed out.
Yeah contra reddit conspiracy theory, old cards being playable is actually a very good thing for WotC sales-wise (although heavily showcasing formats composed entirely of old cards is not.)
Yep, it's right there on the leaked card if you look at it, pretty obvious even in Japanese since the is there in the text, I guess just nobody thought to translate it for some reason?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
All of the art from the SoI cards is very reassuring
Distribution numbers up on the WPN website
http://wpn.wizards.com/en/products/eternal-masters
Think that is slightly less than MM2015. (1 case is 6 booster boxes), but still enough that stores will be able to run at least 1 draft event
EDIT: Here are the MM2015 numbers
http://wpn.wizards.com/en/products/eternal-masters
Think that is slightly less than MM2015. (1 case is 6 booster boxes), but still enough that stores will be able to run at least 1 draft event
EDIT: Here are the MM2015 numbers
http://wpn.wizards.com/en/products/modern-masters-2015-edition
charlequin
Banned
I feel mildly supported on my theory that BFZ ran into schedule-changing/scaling issues on art the same way it did on the design now.
That's unfortunate. Combine that with the lack of a 20k player GP weekend and it's a significantly smaller amount of supply.
They made too much MM2015. You could find boxes for under MSRP a few months ago, and I think the demand for Legacy cards (where you still need thousands of dollars in Dual lands that won't be in this set) is going to be lower than the demand for Modern cards
charlequin
Banned
More from the reddit guy:
Cards I know are in the set : Port, Stoneforge.
Cards I know via verbal communication : Zen fetches, Mother of Runes, Lotus Petal, Infernal Tutor, Cabal Ritual, a piece of the elf deck, Sneak and/or Show, Judgement wishes.
This is a good thing, though.
Cards I know are in the set : Port, Stoneforge.
Cards I know via verbal communication : Zen fetches, Mother of Runes, Lotus Petal, Infernal Tutor, Cabal Ritual, a piece of the elf deck, Sneak and/or Show, Judgement wishes.
This is a good thing, though.
I like all of that. So good.
I feel like you have two options with these "Masters" sets: a) an interesting and balanced limited format, or b) a set brimming with desired reprints. I'd take the latter every day of the week and let WotC worry about limited with the traditional standard block sets.
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