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Magic: the Gathering - Oath o/t Gatewatch |OT| Look again, the mana is now diamonds!

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Lucario

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City of Traitors starting to spike, already up $10. It's on the reserve list and in the Legacy Eldrazi deck, can easily see it going to the moon after Eternal Masters is spoiled.
 

aidan

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An official statement from WotC about the rumoured leak: http://magic.wizards.com/en/article...nt-about-eternal-masters-card-list-2016-02-16

We're aware of the rumors that an individual is in possession of the card list for Eternal Masters. If true, this is obviously a situation we take extremely seriously. We want to ensure that the entire Magic community knows that we DO NOT provide preferential treatment to any card vendor, distributor, or retailer; nor do we disclose detailed card set information prior to preview season.

Once we finish our investigation, we will assess what, if any, steps are needed to ensure fairness for the community.

I doubt they're commenting on this if the list hasn't leaked.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They're going to just release the card list themselves, I imagine. I don't know what else they can do other than erode the living fuck out of consumer confidence.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Reflector Mage, Prairie Stream, Sunken Hollow, Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, Smoldering Marsh, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
 
The best thing Wizards could have done would be to have made the Dragon tribes be Shards, if only so their halfassed thought train of "People are going to play Shards over wedges once BFZ comes out" wasn't as stupid.

I'm basically done with Standard Right now, because the amount of bullshit running around in the format is too high for me. The "budget" top tier deck is still too high, especially when 90% of it's gone post rotation.

There's nothing wrong with having expensive decks in Standard, but when nearly every fucking deck runs Jace and 10+ Fetches and is only different by a few cards it's bollocks.

Like, I have a Mono White deck that wins about 60% of games I play with it, but it's frustrating that I can get Mana screwed on one colour while my opponent goes smoothly on 4 colours.


No one thought Jace would be this good. He was 4th in Preorder pricing, with Gideon (LOL) being the top.

Kideon is actually really, really underrated. Like, he has a bullet on his head, but his +1 is insane in a pseudo lock deck. Swing with Archangel+Dudes, untap Archangel and make it Indestructible for a turn. The issue is his ideal deck is Red White Aggro, which is currently shit.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If you try to play a casual game with 15 mainboard counterspells you probably shouldn't be confused why people don't want to play with you.
 

OnPoint

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I for one welcome our new Reflector Mage Overlords
There is always that side of a format warping card. I just wish they would find a way to stay away from these gatekeeper style cards the whole format needs to funnel through. Seems to happen often.
 

Haines

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All i know is its too bad you have to play white blue in limited to get a reflector mage off.

And yes, with wotc making a statement like that, shit is def real. Good thing i dont care about there fun new format, so i can just sit back and watch the fire burn.
 
Fun fact: Reflector Mage got a third point of toughness because UW was shit in OOB draft. They wanted to give you an incentive to be UW and the third point was necessary for it to tussle with all of the 2/xs.
 
They're going to just release the card list themselves, I imagine. I don't know what else they can do other than erode the living fuck out of consumer confidence.

If someone really does have the full list and tried to sell it then yes, I suspect this will happen.

The plot thickens!

I'm pretty sure there's some specific implication I'm supposed to take from his tweet but I'm not sure what!
 
It's hard to read that much from all of this. WotC needed to make a quick response because the allegations are so damn severe. They're in panic mode trying to figure out what is going on and what to do.

If the list has really leaked and spread at all then they'll almost certainly reveal the full set and they will want to do that ASAP. But obviously if the list isn't actually out there that would be a bad move on their part.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm really struggling to find a deck in Standard I actually like though. =( Playing 4 colors and trying to sequence lands is kind of a pain.
 

ironmang

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It's hard to read that much from all of this. WotC needed to make a quick response because the allegations are so damn severe. They're in panic mode trying to figure out what is going on and what to do.

If the list has really leaked and spread at all then they'll almost certainly reveal the full set and they will want to do that ASAP. But obviously if the list isn't actually out there that would be a bad move on their part.

Me now until I sell off a ton of shit Thursday-Friday:

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Hopefully me this upcoming weekend with only a deck in each format and not much in the way of extra cards:

 

ElyrionX

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What are the chances of Mana Drain showing up in EMA? Yes I know it is a Judge promo but Stoneforge is a PPTQ promo and that appears to be in EMA (based in the leak).
 
What are the chances of Mana Drain showing up in EMA? Yes I know it is a Judge promo but Stoneforge is a PPTQ promo and that appears to be in EMA (based in the leak).

This is unknown...who knows if Mana Drain will reappear. That said, Force of Will was a judge promo recently...
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Mana Drain is banned in EDH and Legacy. I don't know what the point of printing it is.
 

ElyrionX

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This is why stock markets are heavily regulated. And why MTG "finance" is fucking stupid. There are clearly insiders who are profiting from all these stupid "specs" and shit. All the kids and idiots trying to make money flipping cards have completely no idea what they are getting into.

Also if it can be proven that WotC gave preferential treatment to a vendor or two, the incoming lawsuits will be bigger than anything that will ever result from abolishing the Reserved List.
 

kirblar

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This is why stock markets are heavily regulated. And why MTG "finance" is fucking stupid. There are clearly insiders who are profiting from all these stupid "specs" and shit. All the kids and idiots trying to make money flipping cards have completely no idea what they are getting into.

Also if it can be proven that WotC gave preferential treatment to a vendor or two, the incoming lawsuits will be bigger than anything that will ever result from abolishing the Reserved List.
They didn't, this is coming from people helping their buddies out.
 
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