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Magic: the Gathering - Oath o/t Gatewatch |OT| Look again, the mana is now diamonds!
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divisionbyzorro
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There's really no need for Recruiter to be mythic (other than the paucity of red cards that might qualify for that status).
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Kinda want Dack Fayden in it.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
None of the actual great red cards are Mythic.
- Starstorm would be fun in Modern
- Price of Progress would be broken, and it's only a uncommon!
- Uh...Bonfire?
- Starstorm would be fun in Modern
- Price of Progress would be broken, and it's only a uncommon!
- Uh...Bonfire?
Tinker as a rare would be silly; it's banned in EDH or Legacy and restricted in Vintage.
divisionbyzorro
Member
I just selfishly want the price of Imperial Recruiter to become reasonable so I can add it to my Peasant Cube. It was uncommon in P3K, so it counts!
Nah Gamble is fine. Imperial Recruiter needs a reprint badly.
Playing a 8-4 with a White Black Ally deck with lots of good removal. Had 2 Healers on board and played the white oath! Followed that up with Obdaddy who stayed on the board the rest of the game including an ultimate. That was pretty much my Christmas land moment of the set.
I want it so I can build that Aluren deck
Magic Pancake
Member
Ahh, I see.
Blood Moon and Fulminator Mage have both been printed at rare in previous masters sets, so that seems unlikely. I think Sneak Attack is a shoe-in, and wouldn't be surprised at all if Imperial Recruiter and Rolling Earthquake are mythic as well even though they should just be rare.
I'd like to see Sneak Attack as the red mythic, if only for an alternate art.
Honestly, to this day it baffles me cards like Sneak Attack aren't on the reserve list but Argothian Wurm, Citanul Centaurs, Great Whale, Herald of Serra, Opal Archangel, Lightning Dragon and Zephid are.
Burning Wish, yeah maybe I guess. Just checked and it was a rare in Vintage Masters, which is the "closest" thing to EMA we've had so far.
In fact, these were the mythics in VMA, for what it's worth (I marked the reserved list cards), a bunch of those are Conspiracy stuff but anyway:
Armageddon
Balance
Jace TMS
Mana Drain
Morphling (RL)
Muzzio Visionary Architect
Upheaval
Demonic Tutor
Yawgmoth's Bargain (RL)
Yawgmoth's Will (RL)
Scourge of the Throne
Wheel of Fortune (RL)
Channel
Eureka (RL)
Fastbond (RL)
Oath of Druids
Dack Fayden
Marchesa the Black Rose
City in a Bottle (RL)
Coercitive Portal
Lion's Eye Diamond (RL)
Mana Crypt
Memory Jar (RL)
Skullclamp
Sol Ring
Time Vault (RL)
Bazaar of Baghdad (RL)
Mishra's Workshop (RL)
Library of Alexandria (RL)
Tolarian Academy (RL)
I think uncommon would be waaay too much.
In fact, these were the mythics in VMA, for what it's worth (I marked the reserved list cards), a bunch of those are Conspiracy stuff but anyway:
Armageddon
Balance
Jace TMS
Mana Drain
Morphling (RL)
Muzzio Visionary Architect
Upheaval
Demonic Tutor
Yawgmoth's Bargain (RL)
Yawgmoth's Will (RL)
Scourge of the Throne
Wheel of Fortune (RL)
Channel
Eureka (RL)
Fastbond (RL)
Oath of Druids
Dack Fayden
Marchesa the Black Rose
City in a Bottle (RL)
Coercitive Portal
Lion's Eye Diamond (RL)
Mana Crypt
Memory Jar (RL)
Skullclamp
Sol Ring
Time Vault (RL)
Bazaar of Baghdad (RL)
Mishra's Workshop (RL)
Library of Alexandria (RL)
Tolarian Academy (RL)
I think uncommon would be waaay too much.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Go home MTGO, you're drunk (credit Reddit).
Joe Molotov
Member
cool draft bro
A Serious Man
Member
Whatevs. Show me a Hedron Alignment limited win and maybe I'll be impressed.
divisionbyzorro
Member
You realize I'm showing off a heinous bug, not an epic win, right?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That's just because he picked a money list instead of a list of cards WOTC will probably print. :-(
GregLombardi
Member
rofl.
wow. why the F are those triggering. Wizards / Hasbro / MTGO is special.
Edit: wait, the exile ability isn't triggering. What is the bug? Shouldn't someone be able to turn all their creatures into ulamog there?
Ulamog is Legendary...
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Drafting paper right now and in a single game I got World Breaked, Sowered and Crushed by Tentacles...
Like I was keeping relatively up with the first two but crush bouncing my isolation zone that had Sower in it was the killing blow.
The 2nd game I only got world breaked but I gave up when crush bounced 2 isolation zones with World Breaker and Ruin Processor in them.
Blowed the fuck out.
Like I was keeping relatively up with the first two but crush bouncing my isolation zone that had Sower in it was the killing blow.
The 2nd game I only got world breaked but I gave up when crush bounced 2 isolation zones with World Breaker and Ruin Processor in them.
Blowed the fuck out.
keeblerdrow
Member
Eidolon of the Great Revel should likely see a reprint in Eternal Masters. If not now, then the next one. It would be good at mythic for limited purposes.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I *really* wish they would stop printing format-warping cards and forgetting to test them, e.g. Jace, Battlelands, Reflector Mage.
Like why doesn't someone get fired for this? Reflector Mage in particularly I think is egregious because I don't understand how they didn't figure that was completely dumb and tilting with Collected Company.
Like why doesn't someone get fired for this? Reflector Mage in particularly I think is egregious because I don't understand how they didn't figure that was completely dumb and tilting with Collected Company.
Reasons I don't play standard for $1000, Alex.
A Serious Man
Member
I believe I remember hearing Forsythe say that they were surprised by CoCo's success. I doubt they ever thought it would be a factor.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Wait really? Come on, the card basically has Cascade
divisionbyzorro
Member
My guess is that they tested it as a value card as opposed to a build-around.
Collected Company
3G
Instant
Cascade. Cascade.
Edit: The mana cost should be 2G for Cascade to work, but that would make the card even crazier.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Why would a 4 mana card that digs for 2 guys be good in constructed?
Cards like CoCo that basically taunt your opponent with bullshit you pull off the top are already a bit tilting (but I don't think in and of itself its unacceptable at all), but adding in "lol bounce your guy for 2 turns so I can set up a dumb combo win" is just fucking eye-rolling.
Cards like CoCo that basically taunt your opponent with bullshit you pull off the top are already a bit tilting (but I don't think in and of itself its unacceptable at all), but adding in "lol bounce your guy for 2 turns so I can set up a dumb combo win" is just fucking eye-rolling.
I don't mind printing powerful cards. Just give us good ways to deal with them
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, "knock the top of your deck for freeeeeeeeeeeeee" can be tilting, but when its something like Matter Reshaper where you're exceptionally unlikely to *actually* dump Reflector Mage onto the battlefield is one thing. But CoCo is a complete build around. Your opponent *always* gets fucking Reflector Mage.
The problem is that if you're going to print CoCo, Rally, Jace and Reflector Mage in the same environment, you kind of have to print Grafdigger's Cage, because right now we have nothing but reactive answers to the entire 4C Rally deck other than Kalitas and Anafenza that conveniently (for Rally) get moved out of the way by Reflector Mage. Shit, I would probably sideboard Grafdigger's Cage in Standard even if it cost 4 or even 5.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh yeah I don't think printing CoCo was a mistake at all, I'm just astounded that they underestimated how good it was
They seem to get stuck in their own heads a lot and have a hard time looking at cards in a vacuum of "duh thats pretty good"
Jace is egregious because the flip condition is incredibly irrelevant..
"God's Beard!"
Member
Fixed:
Although, I think it's actually more interesting to guess what rare/expensive card is going to get downgraded to uncommon.
I'm gonna go with Rishadan Port. Wasteland is already at rare and I don't think they want to fill up rare/mythic slots with too many similar cards. Furthermore Rishadan Port is a great build around me card for limited that probably won't break the format. Might be too feel-bad, but people that want eternal cards are probably used to it.
- Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
- Ravages of War
- Force of Will
- Show and Tell
- Imperial Seal
- Griselbrand
- Sneak Attack
- Imperial Recruiter
- Oath of Druids
- Natural Order
- Mox Diamond
- Jitte
- Karakas
- Jace the Mind Sculptor
- Liliana of the Veil
Although, I think it's actually more interesting to guess what rare/expensive card is going to get downgraded to uncommon.
I'm gonna go with Rishadan Port. Wasteland is already at rare and I don't think they want to fill up rare/mythic slots with too many similar cards. Furthermore Rishadan Port is a great build around me card for limited that probably won't break the format. Might be too feel-bad, but people that want eternal cards are probably used to it.
GregLombardi
Member
Ah okay. That rule IS confusing though...since Ulamog is indestructible. The coders probably didn't catch that one weird situation.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";195776417]Fixed:
Although, I think it's actually more interesting to guess what rare/expensive card is going to get downgraded to uncommon.
I'm gonna go with Rishadan Port. Wasteland is already at rare and I don't think they want to fill up rare/mythic slots with too many similar cards. Furthermore Rishadan Port is a great build around me card for limited that probably won't break the format. Might be too feel-bad, but people that want eternal cards are probably used to it.[/QUOTE]
Isn't mox diamond reserved too? Maybe Chrome Mox instead.
Also, Rishadan Port at uncommon would make me very happy, but it's never going to happen.
- Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
- Ravages of War
- Force of Will
- Show and Tell
- Imperial Seal
- Griselbrand
- Sneak Attack
- Imperial Recruiter
- Oath of Druids
- Natural Order
- Mox Diamond
- Jitte
- Karakas
- Jace the Mind Sculptor
- Liliana of the Veil
Although, I think it's actually more interesting to guess what rare/expensive card is going to get downgraded to uncommon.
I'm gonna go with Rishadan Port. Wasteland is already at rare and I don't think they want to fill up rare/mythic slots with too many similar cards. Furthermore Rishadan Port is a great build around me card for limited that probably won't break the format. Might be too feel-bad, but people that want eternal cards are probably used to it.[/QUOTE]
Isn't mox diamond reserved too? Maybe Chrome Mox instead.
Also, Rishadan Port at uncommon would make me very happy, but it's never going to happen.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Should just have reprinted bojuka bog
Simply Sarah
Member
It's not confusing at all. The Legend Rule should not be coded as a destruction effect because it's not a destruction effect. It's much closer to "Player picks one copy and sacrifices the rest" but even that isn't quite right since the actual rule is simply "put into owners' graveyards". This would only be an issue if either the coding for the Legend Rule or Indestructible was just completely wrong to start with.
Besides, even if Indestructible was the issue it should still be repeatedly asking the controlling player to pick an Ulamog to keep as a state-based action. It seems more likely to me that the Legend Rule is somehow being ignored entirely here.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";195776417]Fixed:
Although, I think it's actually more interesting to guess what rare/expensive card is going to get downgraded to uncommon.
I'm gonna go with Rishadan Port. Wasteland is already at rare and I don't think they want to fill up rare/mythic slots with too many similar cards. Furthermore Rishadan Port is a great build around me card for limited that probably won't break the format. Might be too feel-bad, but people that want eternal cards are probably used to it.[/QUOTE]
Rishadan Port is a mythic dude, its tilting as fuck in limited and worth a ton. Also, Oath of Druids is a $6 card that's banned in Legacy. If they just wanted to print cards worth money in Green that aren't Tarmogoyf, I would imagine its Glimpse of Nature and Natural Order, but I have my doubts that they would print 0 green creatures as mythics. They fucken love creatures.
- Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
- Ravages of War
- Force of Will
- Show and Tell
- Imperial Seal
- Griselbrand
- Sneak Attack
- Imperial Recruiter
- Oath of Druids
- Natural Order
- Mox Diamond
- Jitte
- Karakas
- Jace the Mind Sculptor
- Liliana of the Veil
Although, I think it's actually more interesting to guess what rare/expensive card is going to get downgraded to uncommon.
I'm gonna go with Rishadan Port. Wasteland is already at rare and I don't think they want to fill up rare/mythic slots with too many similar cards. Furthermore Rishadan Port is a great build around me card for limited that probably won't break the format. Might be too feel-bad, but people that want eternal cards are probably used to it.[/QUOTE]
Rishadan Port is a mythic dude, its tilting as fuck in limited and worth a ton. Also, Oath of Druids is a $6 card that's banned in Legacy. If they just wanted to print cards worth money in Green that aren't Tarmogoyf, I would imagine its Glimpse of Nature and Natural Order, but I have my doubts that they would print 0 green creatures as mythics. They fucken love creatures.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";195776417]Fixed:
Although, I think it's actually more interesting to guess what rare/expensive card is going to get downgraded to uncommon.
I'm gonna go with Rishadan Port. Wasteland is already at rare and I don't think they want to fill up rare/mythic slots with too many similar cards. Furthermore Rishadan Port is a great build around me card for limited that probably won't break the format. Might be too feel-bad, but people that want eternal cards are probably used to it.[/QUOTE]
Would they reprint elesh norn so soon after mm2?
Not sure who would be a better replacement for her but it seems unlikely considering she was a Mythic there as well.
- Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
- Ravages of War
- Force of Will
- Show and Tell
- Imperial Seal
- Griselbrand
- Sneak Attack
- Imperial Recruiter
- Oath of Druids
- Natural Order
- Mox Diamond
- Jitte
- Karakas
- Jace the Mind Sculptor
- Liliana of the Veil
Although, I think it's actually more interesting to guess what rare/expensive card is going to get downgraded to uncommon.
I'm gonna go with Rishadan Port. Wasteland is already at rare and I don't think they want to fill up rare/mythic slots with too many similar cards. Furthermore Rishadan Port is a great build around me card for limited that probably won't break the format. Might be too feel-bad, but people that want eternal cards are probably used to it.[/QUOTE]
Would they reprint elesh norn so soon after mm2?
Not sure who would be a better replacement for her but it seems unlikely considering she was a Mythic there as well.
divisionbyzorro
Member
I still think you could print Shadowmage Infiltrator or Mystic Snake at uncommon in this type of supplemental set, plus there's load of other innocuous stuff like Call of the Herd, Char, Oona's Prowler, etc. You could probably print Birds at uncommon, but that would feel a bit like heresy (maybe something like Utopia Tree?). I'm sure there's a lot more out there if you're just thinking about how to build a limited environment.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Stoneforge Mystic at Mythic is probably the actual answer since at the very least its worth ~$30 and is a centerpiece for a deck that exists.
Yeah, this makes sense.
Yeah. I was thinking of building dnt but is sucks that most of the cards for that are all going to be Mythic. (Except for wasteland but that's neither here nor there)
At least the rest of the deck is reasonable and the most expensive pieces are lands. I think I am going to snap up the rest of the deck and buy the lands when ema releases.
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