Caravan????Isn't it weird all the pushed for constructed vehicles are airborne?
Harvester, Copter, Skysovereign and Heart of Kiran are well above the curve of the rest. The only one that comes close is fleetwheel cruiser.
Caravan????Isn't it weird all the pushed for constructed vehicles are airborne?
Harvester, Copter, Skysovereign and Heart of Kiran are well above the curve of the rest. The only one that comes close is fleetwheel cruiser.
2 Liliana, the Last Hope
2 Ishkanah, Grafwidow
1 Noxious Gearhulk
2 Tireless Tracker
3 Torrential Gearhulk
2 Pick the Brain
4 Traverse the Ulvenwald
1 Negate
2 Fatal Push
3 Glimmer of Genius
3 Grapple with the Past
3 Grasp of Darkness
2 To the Slaughter
2 Disallow
1 Overwhelming Denial
3 Vessel of Nascency
2 Aether Hub
4 Blooming Marsh
2 Botanical Sanctum
4 Evolving Wilds
3 Swamp
2 Lumbering Falls
4 Sunken Hollow
2 Island
1 Forest
Sideboard:
1 Ishkanah, Grafwidow
1 Pick the Brain
1 Negate
2 Fatal Push
1 To the Slaughter
1 Overwhelming Denial
1 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
1 Appetite for the Unnatural
4 Grim Flayer
1 Yahenni's Expertise
1 Transgress the Mind
Thanks for this post. Many people in here were like "copycat is going to get banned watch." When in fact it's just another tier 1 deck. Hyperbole over facts.LOL guys. Warping the meta around it is totally not the same as flatout dominating the meta (like how JTMS and Eldrazis dominated in the past). People were saying the deck is unbeatable but not only is it very beatable, it made no appearances in T8 and just one appearance in T32 despite showing up in force as the most played deck. You've got results from the SCG event and the PT now so what else is there even to argue about?
So now that aggro takes out combo, midrange will rise to take out aggro and you have the classic rock-paper-scissors balance again.
I wasn't on any side of this debate right from the start because I don't give a rats ass about Standard but just thought it's interesting how so many people have overreacted again.
This post makes no sense. Why don't they ban a card from GB or from vechiles when they have done better historically... You just hate the combo existing and have no grounds for claiming a ban. 50 shades of GB are a lot more of s problem in this format imho.There were quite a few posts before the set release that said a severe warp was highly likely and that decks might come up to combat Saheli combo.
If you want to make the argument that format warping isn't the same as domination, I'd listen. But I'm still not down with either and still hope they ban the cat.
More a byproduct of being 4 colour decks but yeah forgot that one.Caravan????
bans only come out in a couple weeks.Thanks for this post. Many people in here were like "copycat is going to get banned watch." When in fact it's just another tier 1 deck. Hyperbole over facts.
I can't tell if serious. Innistrad, widely considered one of the best sets ever, had TONS of hosers in to deal with their busted graveyard cards. Plus m13/ravnica had tons too. Imagine if graddiggers cage, Rest In Peace, pitching needle, ground seek, tormods crypt weren't in that standard. Lingering souls/snapcaster Mage/unburial rites/undying wouldn't have had proper answers and would have likely been banned. Printing answers/hosers is a great thing.You can't have answers to the set's theme anymore, dude, Pithing Needle, really? Next you'll want Tormod's Crypt together with Innistrad.
it's not serious. Just making a jab at Wizards' unwillingness to print answers.I can't tell if serious. Innistrad, widely considered one of the best sets ever, had TONS of hosers in to deal with their busted graveyard cards. Plus m13/ravnica had tons too. Imagine if graddiggers cage, Rest In Peace, pitching needle, ground seek, tormods crypt weren't in that standard. Lingering souls/snapcaster Mage/unburial rites/undying wouldn't have had proper answers and would have likely been banned. Printing answers/hosers is a great thing.
Honestly yes, I do hate the combo. Decks have to be tuned specifically to account for it. It is the tentpole problem in Standard to be concerned with right now. If you can't see this then you obviously don't understand how format warping works. My guess is someone will find a way to make it work too well -- I just don't think they've got there yet. Feels like it's only a matter of time.This post makes no sense. Why don't they ban a card from GB or from vechiles when they have done better historically... You just hate the combo existing and have no grounds for claiming a ban. 50 shades of GB are a lot more of s problem in this format imho.
If you want to make the argument that format warping isn't the same as domination, I'd listen.
I mean, it trivially isn't. Copycat is fundamentally different from a lot of historical decks that have required bannings because it's not actually that good against opponents who can play to the meta. The problem is more that all its matchups are much too one-sided; it absolutely crushes the decks that aren't well-suited to beating it, and folds to the aggro decks that cut underneath. That's why the RPS metagame can't develop: Mardu Vehicles has a normal loss rate against its predator decks and a great win rate against Copycat, while whatever slower deck would normally prey on Vehicles has just a normal win-rate over its target and an atrocious loss rate to Copycat.
All of that's not to say not to ban it, but just to be clear that it's a fundamentally different kind of issue from the ones where everyone does in fact just wind up running that particular deck.
- Magic had it's 8th straight year of growth, but was behind something called "Pie-Face" in the Hasbro game line
Cue Price Is Right fail horn over all those speculative graphs of Magic sales plummeting into the toilet.
Cue Price Is Right fail horn over all those speculative graphs of Magic sales plummeting into the toilet.
PIE-FACE is a game where you put whip cream on a spring-loaded hand and get pied in the face.
I can't tell if serious. Innistrad, widely considered one of the best sets ever, had TONS of hosers in to deal with their busted graveyard cards. Plus m13/ravnica had tons too. Imagine if graddiggers cage, Rest In Peace, pitching needle, ground seek, tormods crypt weren't in that standard. Lingering souls/snapcaster Mage/unburial rites/undying wouldn't have had proper answers and would have likely been banned. Printing answers/hosers is a great thing.
Let's start with the elephant in the room: Mardu Vehicles at Pro Tour Aether Revolt has a solid argument for being the single best deck at any Pro Tour in the mythic era of Magic. Let that sink in for a moment. By the numbers, we witnessed history this weekend with an almost unheard of dominance. A couple of years ago, during Pro Tour Magic Origins, the breakout deck was UR Ensoul Artifact, and we were writing about how its performance was Caw Blade-level good. The thing is that UR Ensoul Artifact was played by only 33 day-one players, and many of them were among the best in the room (Team ChannelFireball). Mardu Vehicles at Pro Tour Aether Revolt posted similar numbers to UR Ensoul Artifact and Caw Blade, but it started with 96 players, which means the average skill level of a Mardu Vehicles player was almost certainly far below that of UR Ensoul or Caw Blade.
It's also important to note that, in saying this is the best Pro Tour performance ever, we aren't talking about number of Top 8 berths. While taking up 75% of the Top 8 is certainly impressive, it's also true that Mardu Vehicles was the most played deck at Pro Tour Aether Revolt, so it naturally has a leg up at putting players far in the tournament, so this isn't really a good measure. Instead, what makes Mardu Vehicles so great is its numbers in other areas (which are controlled for by the number of players with the deck). For example, just under 45% of day one Mardu Vehicles ended up performing well enough to have their list published on the Mothership, which is an absurd rate, and 30% got at least seven wins in constructed (which is even more impressive considering only 75% made it to day two, which means about 95% of Mardu Vehicles players who did well enough on day one to make day two ended up with at least seven wins in constructed). Basically, by every measure, Mardu Vehicles had an all-time great Pro Tour performance and backed this up with the "soft" numbers of making up 75% of the Top 8 and more than half of the 8+ wins decks. Not only is Mardu Vehicles the winner of Pro Tour Aether Revolt, it's the only real winner of the event.
Ugh, I'd hate if this meant Felidar Guardian wasn't going to be banned. I was all set to start buying into Standard (maybe) if it was.
I'm curious to see how the continual decline of FNM may or may not affect things.
Zur the Enchanter Promo os falling quickly, might settle where Nekusar is right now at ~4-5€
Ugh, I'd hate if this meant Felidar Guardian wasn't going to be banned. I was all set to start buying into Standard (maybe) if it was.
Yeah, because people who play Zur the Enchanter decks have no friends.
I tried a rough foil peel of a random foil I had lying around and in theory it works. Just need to find a way to cut really precise and stitch it together nicely.
Judge promo nekusar is a couple bucks so I'd preferably only use 1 of the 2 I'm buying for a friend. Alternatively I could order 3 and just paste the foil layer on top of another.
Did the people who played Copycat just not test against Vehicles? Or did they just think that not enough people would play it to matter?
Nice!SCG Modern Regionals top 8 deck lists are up:
Lists Here
30+ decks represented in the 10 locations. Infect almost out of the picture, no Death Shadow or Dredge at all . Actual diversity thanks to the bans. Nice.
EDIT: That BR Pack Rat deck is some spicy shit.
Nice!
My friends and I brewed up a delightful little Modern brew this weekend and played it a bunch on MTGO. It uses these cards to hilarious effect.
Sometimes it didn't work and we got run over. But man, when it worked, it was freaking amazing.
Shit that would look legit amazing. Isn't there an oversized nonfoil Nekusar?Necropotence >>>>>> Friends
I'm curious how many cards I'll ruin trying to make this (shopped together as proof of concept)
I tried a rough foil peel of a random foil I had lying around and in theory it works. Just need to find a way to cut really precise and stitch it together nicely.
Judge promo nekusar is a couple bucks so I'd preferably only use 1 of the 2 I'm buying for a friend. Alternatively I could order 3 and just paste the foil layer on top of another.
Shit that would look legit amazing. Isn't there an oversized nonfoil Nekusar?
Nope, IIRC all the Commander deck commanders only have oversized versions in foil.
It's stupid fun. Sometimes people thought it was hilarious and we had good chats. Other times people ragequit the client so we'd have to time out for the win. I really wanna put a version together that's more consistent than the current build for laughs, but I don't think it's ever going to win anything real.That's some jank ass jank. I love it.
Don't know but you need foils. After separating the layers you soak the foil in water to get rid of the paper.Shit that would look legit amazing. Isn't there an oversized nonfoil Nekusar?
Ah okay that makes sense. I would legit commission you to do one for me.Don't know but you need foils. After separating the layers you soak the foil in water to get rid of the paper.
SCG Modern Regionals top 8 deck lists are up:
Lists Here
30+ decks represented in the 10 locations. Infect almost out of the picture, no Death Shadow or Dredge at all . Actual diversity thanks to the bans. Nice.
EDIT: That BR Pack Rat deck is some spicy shit.
That Sultai Delver list looks sweet. Also lol at Gifts storm running Baral in the main.
natural state is 1 cmc, there's what's it called that gives the opponent 4 life.
Mainboard said:4 Flooded Strand
1 Godless Shrine
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Island
1 Marsh Flats
1 Plains
4 Polluted Delta
1 Seachrome Coast
1 Swamp
1 Watery Grave
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Fatal Push
3 Myth Realized
4 Path to Exile
4 Serum Visions
3 Spell Pierce
1 Counter Squall
2 Logic Knots
4 Remand
4 Snapcaster Mage
2 Geist of Saint Traft
3 Lingering Souls
2 Cryptic Command
2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Sideboard said:1 Engineered Explosives
3 Ceremonius Rejection
2 Blessed Alliance
2 Collective Brutality
2 Countersquall
2 Stony Silence
2 Painful Truths
1 Supreme Verdict
natural state is 1 cmc, there's what's it called that gives the opponent 4 life when you destroy any artifact or enchantment. You already have access to raging ravine colours and it kills in 3 to 4 hits.
Except the 2016 ones, which are only available as foils.
Nice to meet you. Do you already have a group of friends to play with? Advice we give will largely depend on your play group.Hey guys, I've just started playing MTG in the last few days, and i'd like a little advice with my deck?
I decided to start with Standard, and run with Ajani (Because Lion, natch).
Bought the Aether Revolt Ajani, Valiant Protector Deck, a couple of Boosters, and was given the Green/White Welcome Deck, bringing me to just under 200 cards.
I took the Starter deck and played with it a bit, and this is what i've got so far.
http://deck.tk/1pUX6aLh
Here's my full collection so you can futz with it:
https://deckstats.net/collection/2260/
As for what I want the deck to do, I'd like to Get Ajani out ASAP, and then use the whole Artifact/Revolt thing, since that's the new hotness, after all.
Thanks in advance, guys.
Caravan????
If you want to power out Ajani as fast as possible you have many options there are quite a few mana dorks available right now. I don't have a grasp on what's possible with a limited pool but here's a couple cards you should be able to pick up on the cheap, talking cents here being commons and uncommons, and can get quite the leverage from. Rishkar is quite powerful and helps you ramp out Ajani faster so you got a good rare already.Hey guys, I've just started playing MTG in the last few days, and i'd like a little advice with my deck?
I decided to start with Standard, and run with Ajani (Because Lion, natch).
Bought the Aether Revolt Ajani, Valiant Protector Deck, a couple of Boosters, and was given the Green/White Welcome Deck, bringing me to just under 200 cards.
I took the Starter deck and played with it a bit, and this is what i've got so far.
http://deck.tk/1pUX6aLh
Here's my full collection so you can futz with it:
https://deckstats.net/collection/2260/
As for what I want the deck to do, I'd like to Get Ajani out ASAP, and then use the whole Artifact/Revolt thing, since that's the new hotness, after all.
Thanks in advance, guys.
Of most cards you play you'll want as many as you can put in a deck, which is 4.
Looking for some advice for GP Vancouver. Since I live nearby, I'll definitely be going, but I've never played Modern competitively or even much at all before. Everyone recommends play what you're comfortable over what's best, but I'm pretty much equally uncomfortable with everything. I will say I generally prefer playing proactive gameplans over reactive, but Grixis Control does look pretty appealing.
Assuming budget/cards isn't an issue, what deck would you recommend I practice over the next two weeks to take, given that I'll be fairly new to the format and the current metagame? (Which seems to be pretty burn/spell combo heavy?) Decks I've been actively looking at and watching replays from are Ad Nauseum, Grixis Control, Souls Sisters, and Hatebears, but I'm open to any proposal if you think there's an especially good choice atm. Merfolk looks appealing as well, but the deck seemed to be a clear tier 2/3 choice.
Haha definitely don't play my deck. It's not good. Fun, sure, but definitely not good.Haha np. I'm all for trying crazy brews for at least a day or so more, but I will have to commit pretty soon to actually guarantee decent reps before the GP.
I had a brew based on the aetherflux standard deck that I was trying to get going but it's definitely clunky. I imagine your erase-all-lands brew is better:
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