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Magic: the Gathering |OT10| Aether Revolt - That shit that make your Soul Burn slow
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T8 decklists are up. It looks like the 6 Mardu decks are all slightly different from eachother in the maindeck- lots of different choices in Vehicle selection among other things
Yep, should be wrapped up before the Puppy bowl starts
Yep, should be wrapped up before the Puppy bowl starts
didn't watch the stream today but Mardu vehicles was dominating yesterday by walking (driving?) over a bunch of GB snake decks on camera, so I'm not really suprised. Heart of Kiran ban coming next? 
I dunno, there's just something about those two mana flying vehicles
I mean, there's 26 copies of it in 7 of the 8 top decks even though it's a legendary
I dunno, there's just something about those two mana flying vehicles
I mean, there's 26 copies of it in 7 of the 8 top decks even though it's a legendary
It fades the Heart unless they have Gideon Emblem or a Veteren Motorist.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Hope this is a fake
Wulfric
Member
If anyone is going to GP Orlando, the event page is live. I'm also looking for someone to split a hotel or airbnb. PM me if you're going and have room for an extra person.
Betcha this guy is willing to trade his Rattata for a kid's foil Charizard EX.
Betcha this guy is willing to trade his Rattata for a kid's foil Charizard EX.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I remember complaining how it comes into play from the yard untapped early on into the format. Real BS.
"combat, [thing you want to do]"
The important thing is not to pause in between "combat" and "[thing]."
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The most noncommittal thing you can say right now where the timing matters is probably "Beginning of combat I have a trigger."
hypothetically, if they wanted to ban something from Mardu vehicles, it would have to be either Heart or Gideon or Scounger. All of which see plenty of play in other decks too
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You basically have to stop the game and announce a spell, ability or trigger that you want to cast in that step. You basically can't just hold priority there otherwise as far as I can gather.
Necessary to get under the Saheeli deck.
Heart of Kiran goes right over BG Counters too.
Wulfric
Member
Lmao you're kidding? Oh wow you're right. Is it any good in G/B Delirium? I kinda don't want to switch to Mardu Vehicles right now.
well it crews Heart and Caravan, and when it gets killed you can bring back so it can resume to fulfill it's intended purpose, which is to crew Heart and Caravan
Wulfric
Member
Hmm, guess I'll order a playset then. The meta's due for a shakeup anyway. And I would like a chance at this set's Game Day playmat. No surprise there.
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
It is an attacker that keeps coming back...forever.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Ahaha it's all vehicles.
divisionbyzorro
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They broke equipment when they printed it the first time too. They just also printed affinity at the same time so it wasn't as big of a deal.
Yeah, when they go back to vehicles I'm guessing we'll see both higher crew costs and lower power.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Hey there's avacyn.
Crew is an activated ability right? All they needed to do was reprint pithing needle. Would work against any one vehicle and scrounger and gideon. Would also have been an improvise outlet, maybe it's an amonkhet plant.
Crew is an activated ability right? All they needed to do was reprint pithing needle. Would work against any one vehicle and scrounger and gideon. Would also have been an improvise outlet, maybe it's an amonkhet plant.
They are also not dominating standard (pro tour aside), but even though I quite like the card type, I think the current batch is a bit overpowered.
You can't have answers to the set's theme anymore, dude, Pithing Needle, really? Next you'll want Tormod's Crypt together with Innistrad.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Crypt is a hoser though. Needle would be a 1 for 1 answer that's susceptible as well.
I don't think they're overpowered but I don't care if they nerf them next time around tbh. We had enough good ones with Cruiser and Thopter and there's only so many vehicles you can fit in a small cube.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
man these games suck
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
If you're playing around removal why would not just take the 1 damage to gideon? On the other hand Marcio would have killed the veteran motorist then and Lucas not have a creature to crew the Kiran anyway, so forcing it on the heart was probably correct.
Infinite Stars
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Basically. Turns out a 4 Mana Token Maker/5 power Attacker/Anthem maker is a bit stupid.
PPTQ went horribly, was on 4 Color Saheeli like I mentioned yesterday. I refused to drop and managed to go 0-4 in matches, only winning two games. After round 4 I finally decided to join my buddies for a GPT at another store. Only went 2-2 there as well. I haven't had this rough of a day when it comes to Magic in a long time. I don't want to blame it on the deck. I only got like 3 hours of sleep and just wasn't able to focus at all. So my takeaway is: Fix your fucking sleep schedule, Tunoku.
Anyway, gonna consider playing something else for Game Day. I should have the cards for B/R and that deck is pretty damn sweet, but not nearly as sweet as 4 Color Saheeli. I really like the addition of a couple copies of Marvel. So much better than that 0/4 with Flash as the Energy payoff.
Anyway, gonna consider playing something else for Game Day. I should have the cards for B/R and that deck is pretty damn sweet, but not nearly as sweet as 4 Color Saheeli. I really like the addition of a couple copies of Marvel. So much better than that 0/4 with Flash as the Energy payoff.
Giant Panda
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It's even more ridiculous when you look at the power level of the rest of BFZ. Imagine if they had kept the power level of the following sets on par with BFZ; Gideon would have easily ended up banned.
With a quick look through BFZ, the other cards that could possibly be competitive in standard are Blightherder, Dragonmaster Outcast, Drana, Greenwarden of Murasa, From Beyond, Bobby Nixon, Oblivion Sower, Omnath, Reflector Mage, Ulamog, Undergrowth Champion, Void Winnower, and Woodland Wanderer.
Looks to me that GR Ramp is the only deck that would have gotten much out of the set.
Infinite Stars
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Yup, Gideon is stupid powerful without including the rest of the BFZ Cards generally sucking.
Like, the emblem being usable immediately +Token making being free is such a stupid "Why not run 4?" issue, because he's basically Standard Goyf.
Think of every deck that's played White since BFZ Came out, and think of how many don't play Gideon. All I'm getting through a quick search is Humans(which had such a low curve Gideon wasn't worth it), Rally(can't bring back Gideon), and the occasional control decks.
Gideon is to Standard what Goyf is to Modern, only there's fuck all to answer Gideon in Standard.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Tried my hand on one of these full art physical alters of oversized cards. Came out better than expected considering I had to do it lying on my belly
Might look into foil peels for Kynaios and Tiro but first gonna experiment on glueing them onto a card to not have a bump
charlequin
Banned
Rosewater made a post on Blogatog recently talking about how they don't want to print cards that get rid of emblems because your strategy should be to deal with the planeswalker before they make the emblem, which in general I totally agree with... but it points to exactly what's wrong with Gideon.
Infinite Stars
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The only other PlanesWalker who can instantly emblem is Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, and his Emblem is nowhere near as strong as Gideon's.
Like, there's a number of small changes one can make to have the card not be as dumb: Make his Token ability be +1, so he's not able to keep Making Tokens and the Ult//Make his Ult be - 5 so he has to plus before he can use it //make him cost more.
Also, I'd be totally fine if that's their philosophy, but then we've got cards like Ugin who come down, minus, and then proceed to dominate the board.
Mega Spooky
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Is an emblem considered a permanent? Like could Ulamog etb and exile it?
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