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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Funny tidbit from the Commanderin Podcast ft. Ethan Fleischer. Bounty of Luxa edged out a gold legend, which all were aimed for commander.
That makes Neheb costing 3 all the more disappointing.
Assuming that whatever legendary creature got cut filled the same role as Bounty did (UG, card draw, and ramp), I don't think we're missing out on too much. It's not like we're lacking in UG commanders that do exactly that.
Any bets on which deck will take the storm? Which cards will be the risers and which the losers?
W/U Anointed Procession embalm tokens got this
Familienoberhauptvogel
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He also mentioned that they wanted to pay homage to Tut (Temmet), Cleopatra (Hapatra) and Ramses but cut the latter in favour of having Nile floods be represented.Assuming that whatever legendary creature got cut filled the same role as Bounty did (UG, card draw, and ramp), I don't think we're missing out on too much. It's not like we're lacking in UG commanders that do exactly that.
I don't think I like the story they've built for a Egyptian themed set but I believe it could make an amazing premise for a return set.
Right now it's a bubble but Bolas will pop it. When we return to Amonkhet, these people disillusioned by their for pharao will have to venture out and colonize the realm making for a more vast world than this Battle Royale theme park that is Amonkhet right now.
divisionbyzorro
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WTF that pack
Ignoring the raw monetary value of the cards in that crazy pack, I still would've taken the Maelstrom Pulse over Magma Spray. It's a crazy piece of removal to be sure, and I personally never try to slot myself into one color early on in case in dries up.
I dunno. Maybe that's why I'm just watching the Pro Tour instead of winning it.
I dunno. Maybe that's why I'm just watching the Pro Tour instead of winning it.
divisionbyzorro
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I feel like taking Magma Spray over Nissa is a mistake. Red Trial (which was the first pick) is much much closer and is probably correct. Maelstrom Pulse is definitely way lower as a 3cc gold removal spell - Spray is better. I think it goes Nissa, Spray, Pulse.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Magma Spray is incredible in this format it kills all the 2 drop exert creatures and kills a bunch of small creatures for good. After a trial of Zeal Magma Spray is definitely the pick. Just for cutting red and putting the guy to your left into UG possibly.I feel like taking Magma Spray over Nissa is a mistake. Red Trial (which was the first pick) is much much closer and is probably correct. Maelstrom Pulse is definitely way lower as a 3cc gold removal spell - Spray is better. I think it goes Nissa, Spray, Pulse.
So instead you're locking yourself into 2 colours for a spell where half the text does nothing in limited?Ignoring the raw monetary value of the cards in that crazy pack, I still would've taken the Maelstrom Pulse over Magma Spray. It's a crazy piece of removal to be sure, and I personally never try to slot myself into one color early on in case in dries up.
I dunno. Maybe that's why I'm just watching the Pro Tour instead of winning it.
So instead you're locking yourself into 2 colours for a spell where half the text does noth8ng in limited?
I wouldn't say the second part doesn't do anything in limited. Obviously you're not going to be hitting a lot of cards with it, but there's no shortage of token makers in the set that you can neuter with Maelstrom Pulse. Is it going to pop up often, no of course not, but occasionally it might.
Locking yourself into two colors is more of a problem though, you're right. There's not a ton of mana fixing in the set at lower rarities, so splashing either green or black just for pulse seems like a dumb idea. Again, this is why I'm not winning drafts all the time.
I totally agree with taking Trial of Zeal and passing Pulse though (again, ignoring all monetary value of course). Trial of Zeal is disgusting even if you only get to bounce it once. Any more than that and it's a serious problem.
divisionbyzorro
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Magma Spray is incredible in this format it kills all the 2 drop exert creatures and kills a bunch of small creatures for good. After a trial of Zeal Magma Spray is definitely the pick. Just for cutting red and putting the guy to your left into UG possibly.
He didn't first pick Trial of Zeal. The guy who opened the absurd pick did, and I agreed with that pick. He first picked the Javelineer.
Having not played Nissa in Limited yet, it's possible I'm overrating her - I'll grant you that.
Ended up getting off work early since i'll be going in Sunday night so will get to watch much more of the stream today. Plan on doing some more amonkhet draft this week with some friends' at their house. Plan is to try and draft something besides beatdown with black involved if the cards are there because I always tend to gravitate towards drafting those.
SigmasonicX
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M-Files Amonkhet 2
* The set originally had Pillar of Flame, but it was changed to Magma Spray due to vehicles and Scrapheap Scrounger.
* As expected, Glorybringer doesn't hit dragons to prevent mirror matches from being based on who brings out Glorybringer last.
* Sweltering Suns was originally:
2RR
Sorcery
CARDNAME deals 3 damage to each creature. Each player can't untap more than two lands during his or her next untap step.
Cycling R (R, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
* Manglehorn was meant to answer Aetherworks Marvel decks.
* They know Harvest Season doesn't really fit into any deck, but people really liked it in their rare poll.
* Bounty of the Luxa originally had a Mana Flare effect, and then added GGUU to your mana pool, but it was changed after they learned BFZ was staying in Standard.
* There should be a bear that adds CUB to your mana pool.
* Nissa originally turned five lands into 2/2s, but it was changed to two 5/5s after they learned Sylvan Advocate would still be in Standard.
* The set originally had Pillar of Flame, but it was changed to Magma Spray due to vehicles and Scrapheap Scrounger.
* As expected, Glorybringer doesn't hit dragons to prevent mirror matches from being based on who brings out Glorybringer last.
* Sweltering Suns was originally:
2RR
Sorcery
CARDNAME deals 3 damage to each creature. Each player can't untap more than two lands during his or her next untap step.
Cycling R (R, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
* Manglehorn was meant to answer Aetherworks Marvel decks.
* They know Harvest Season doesn't really fit into any deck, but people really liked it in their rare poll.
* Bounty of the Luxa originally had a Mana Flare effect, and then added GGUU to your mana pool, but it was changed after they learned BFZ was staying in Standard.
* There should be a bear that adds CUB to your mana pool.
* Nissa originally turned five lands into 2/2s, but it was changed to two 5/5s after they learned Sylvan Advocate would still be in Standard.
Not sure exert, but it gets rid of embalmed creatures which is a lot of value.
Gee golly I need to start proofreading before hitting Send lol. Stupid phone update resetted my autocorrect list.
Anyways, I don't care for the lore much, but when the team was going through it, gotta admit it sounded pretty interesting. I kinda wish they would include different passages of the story on a token card, and then they would be collectibles within itself to complete the full story.
Zombies vs New Perspectives does not seem like a good match for Zombies, even post board. They must not have known.Zombies vs. New Perspectives as the first Standard match of the Pro Tour.
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F6 at the Pro Tour. What a time to be alive.
Zombies vs New Perspectives does not seem like a good match for Zombies, even post board. They must not have known.
Zombies in general doesn't seem like the greatest choice. Did they mention the sideboard yet?
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Yeah, that doesn't look good.
"Oh, Kirblar's just freaking out as usual!"The match was brutal.
"Oh, you didn't have the perfect god hand and drew a bunch of removal? Sucks to be you!"
No.
"Oh, Kirblar's just freaking out as usual!"
No.
Kirblar was right, yet again
Familienoberhauptvogel
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After 1 round?
I'm proclaiming that having a deck that goes "6 Mana: Win the Game" is a very bad thing to have in Standard. If this were Modern, it'd be fine. We already have that deck.Are you guys really proclaiming the age of New Perspectives after two games of the very first round?
Are you guys really proclaiming the age of New Perspectives after two games of the very first round?
I'm certainly not. I just thought it was a brutal match to watch. Obviously there are ways to disrupt it, but a lot of those cards are sideboard fair which sucks for match 1.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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no one disagrees.I'm proclaiming that having a deck that goes "6 Mana: Win the Game" is a very bad thing to have in Standard. If this were Modern, it'd be fine. We already have that deck.
I'm proclaiming that having a deck that goes "6 Mana: Win the Game" is a very bad thing to have in Standard. If this were Modern, it'd be fine. We already have that deck.
I think we all agree that the deck is not a good thing to have around.
I turned away, came back and game was over. How do you not Fumigate there?Masashi risked a New Perspectives for no reason.
Haha New Perspectives up to $4 from $.50
I turned away, came back and game was over. How do you not Fumigate there?
That's what I'm saying. OK he gets back a 2/2 or a 2/1, but then you have Fumigate #2 bro. I mean he was two more turns away from Liliana's Mastery if even. He played too risky.
His hand was like Forest Forest Fumigate Fumigate New Perspectives right? He needs to burn time in order to get a hand capable of going off in the first place!That's what I'm saying. OK he gets back a 2/2 or a 2/1, but then you have Fumigate #2 bro. I mean he was two more turns away from Liliana's Mastery if even. He played too risky.
Only went 3-3 at FNM today; pretty disappointed with my result. I was on Temur Marvel splashing white for Nahiri. Lost against Grixis control, Mardu vehicles, and RG Gods. That last match against red green was super tilting, my opponent just had it all. I hit Ulamog a single time time in 6 rounds today. So advice to everyone: Draw your 10th land and be lucky.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It doesn't say thatI'm proclaiming that having a deck that goes "6 Mana: Win the Game" is a very bad thing to have in Standard. If this were Modern, it'd be fine. We already have that deck.
The deck barely does anything without the 6 mana engine
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Did we finally play each other? I was on Grixis Control and went 4-2.Only went 3-3 at FNM today; pretty disappointed with my result. I was on Temur Marvel splashing white for Nahiri. Lost against Grixis control, Mardu vehicles, and RG Gods. That last match against red green was super tilting, my opponent just had it all. I hit Ulamog a single time time in 6 rounds today. So advice to everyone: Draw your 10th land and be lucky.
We totally did, we even talked about the hapatra deck lol.
Positively surprised how my deck performed considering it's a bit of a pile. I only have a single Censor I opened and haven't gotten about acquiring any more.
If someone told me we would be getting a near $10 uncommon in a Standard set again, I would have never believed them.
It literally is so damn good. It's black's Path to Exile.
If someone told me we would be getting a near $10 uncommon in a Standard set again, I would have never believed them.
The follies of printing a choice uncommon in a small set. That and not really having too many other cheap instant speed black removal cards in standard.
God, it's going to get even worse once Grasp rotates, isn't it?
It literally is so damn good. It's black's Path to Exile.
It is. It is elegant, powerful, useful, flavorful. Really one of the top designed cards in the past years. But I never would have expected to creep it up so high. Always thought it would stay at the $5-6 range, but guessed wrong.
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