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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Simply Sarah
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Mercadian Masques was a return to sobriety in the sense of waking up the next morning inside a dumpster with the world's biggest hangover.
No more Masterpiece cards in Standard Showdown packs https://wpn.wizards.com/en/event/standard-showdown-amonkhet
Gids, for 3 mana that prevents you from losing the game. Great.
I have to imagine that's going to be a problem in some format. Like the first 2 are good alone and the 3rd will randomly hose decks I just know it.
Simply Sarah
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Gids, for 3 mana that prevents you from losing the game. Great.
I, uh, what? This is bizarre as hell.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Now Gideon steals from Kiora.
Look out Dack, Gideon is coming for your title.
Look out Dack, Gideon is coming for your title.
Gids, for 3 mana that prevents you from losing the game. Great.
....Jesus.
I was wondering when we'd get our first planeswalker spoiler.
Yikes, that's a monster of a walker for sure. 3 mana for a 4/4 that ignores damage, neuters a permanent of your choice, is also a Platinum Angel. Value, value, value.
Nvm: he does have indestructible. Misread. This guy is a monster once Grasp rotates.
Yikes, that's a monster of a walker for sure. 3 mana for a 4/4 that ignores damage, neuters a permanent of your choice, is also a Platinum Angel. Value, value, value.
Nvm: he does have indestructible. Misread. This guy is a monster once Grasp rotates.
divisionbyzorro
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What
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Fuck
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Gids, for 3 mana that prevents you from losing the game. Great.
Great, I missed Gideon in Standard. Finally, he's back!
Indestructible+prevent all damage. No Fatal Push in the world is gonna deal with this thing.
Indestructible.
indestructible
Oh yeah, the story that spoiled that Gideon as well:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/trust-2017-04-05?
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/trust-2017-04-05?
Yeah, I misread and thought they were reasonable and gave him some downdside. My mistake clearly.
Once Grasp rotates, this guy is going to do some serious damage. Your choice of 4/4 indestructible vs Pacifism that you can move around (and can neuter your Chandra of choice), all combined with being a Platinum Angel means he'll be a top card in standard for sure.
Infinite Stars
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But of fucking course. Why would we want to encourage Standard at all?
What the flying fuck?
Gids, for 3 mana that prevents you from losing the game. Great.
Like.. They do realize that how dumb this emblem is, right? Like... It's basically "Fuck you" when combined with other Gideon in Standard/Vehicles.
divisionbyzorro
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Simply Sarah
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I don't think the emblem is as big of a deal as people think unless there's going to be a legit alternate win condition in the set. It's potentially annoying but it means him spending a turn not actually doing anything and, in the end, he's still a relatively low loyalty PW. And yes, there's other Gideon but he wasn't supposed to be here when they made this card.
And it's gonna be in the same standard as Gideon, Ally of Zendikar.
Gids, for 3 mana that prevents you from losing the game. Great.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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OG Gideon is currently being played in some UW control decks in modern, this card could make that all the more obnoxious.
In an aggressive meta it's entirely possible Gideon doesn't cut it.
A Serious Man
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My first impression of that ult is that it's very "win more". It doesn't effect the board in any way and any game where you can keep your PWs up is one you're going to win anyway.
divisionbyzorro
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The idea of making a Platinum Planeswalker is a good one.
Making it a 3CC planeswalker is monumentally stupid. Don't even think about it as a turn 3 play. You'll play it with 7-8 mana in play and get to either wrath first or hold up countermagic/removal.
Making it a 3CC planeswalker is monumentally stupid. Don't even think about it as a turn 3 play. You'll play it with 7-8 mana in play and get to either wrath first or hold up countermagic/removal.
Gids, for 3 mana that prevents you from losing the game. Great.
Curving this into Gideon, Ally of Zendikar seems a little over-the-top...
gid's second zero ability against aggro, or any archtype that goes wide:
against midrange/control, or any archtype that tries to win with a few big dudes :
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against a surprisingly large number of combo decks:
All of these seem relevant, and encourage racing... which, hey, his first +0 does that.
Seems very strong. Doesn't even die to your own wraths if played in a control shell. His +1 even stops vehicles.
against midrange/control, or any archtype that tries to win with a few big dudes :
against a surprisingly large number of combo decks:
All of these seem relevant, and encourage racing... which, hey, his first +0 does that.
Seems very strong. Doesn't even die to your own wraths if played in a control shell. His +1 even stops vehicles.
Simply Sarah
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Not just do they look like Limited all-stars but the trials are decent enough that I can actually see the potential of some sort of trails + cartouche package seeing play in constructed, especially if we end up in a slower format.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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AoZ is considerably stronger imo.
That honestly seems like a bad use of 3 mana and a card to me. If your Ally of Zendikar is sticking around you don't need "can't lose the game" insurance.
AoZ is also arguably one of the best walkers ever. Also, this one costs 3 mana. That's a big deal as well.
FreedomFrisbee
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I play new gideon, make an emblem, now I can't lose if I gideon. Next turn I play BFZ Gideon sacing old gideon. This seems criminal in standard. Fucking gideon tribal. Hilarious.
True.
Still is a 3 mana walker that can protect itself and whack the opponent as an indestructible 4/4.
Simply Sarah
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I mean, I dunno. In many ways you've just spent your entire turn 3 saying "Hey, to win you're going to have to do something you'd almost certainly need to do to win anyway! Take that!"
Yup, same. The blue and black ones seem great in particular.
I know it's a stretch for the auras to see constructed play, but being able to buy back some early sifts/edicts is exciting.
Also exciting:
Familienoberhauptvogel
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in a given standard format yes but it says barely any play outside of it. Less than he should imo.
This shit is gonna preorder at $30-40 minimum, right? Sigh...
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