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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Oh yeah, I didn't know what the spell was he was casting, thought it was something that let him do that. Especially since the commentators said it was a nice trick.
Imperfected
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Oh it is, I'm just saying you get inured to seeing dumb shit happen around Heart of Kiran and sort of stop paying attention to it.
Absolutely. I'm not judging him. Playing on camera is probably extremely stressful, not to mention we are more likely to notice mistakes that harm us than those that benefit us.
I hate not running 17 lands. 4 Blinkmoth/Inkmoth/citadel/Glimmervoid (I don't have Spires yet), and 1 basic dictated by my colored spells. If you are running Thoughtcast and Master, it should probably be an island?
By the way, they're also streaming GP Amsterdam.
https://www.twitch.tv/magic
https://www.twitch.tv/magic
ChazAshley
CharAznable's second cousin
Has there been discussion here about what potentially the vanilla mythic could be? Knowing how Maro answers certain questions at certain times, his tumblr recently has been showing questions about the mythic and switching power and toughness. Potential 0/20?? Has there been any other thoughts??
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
we have this discussion in every thread.
Going straight in my Doran EDH deck.
Imperfected
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Gotta get that Samut PW out to give it Double Strike.
Get ready for 15 more months of Marvel, as wotc uses these results to keep it around:
GP Manila Top 8 Decks
Qi Wentao (Esper Vehicles)
Ryoichi Tamada (White-Blue Flash) -WINNER-
Cholo Pascual (Mardu Blue)
Mark Anthony Biala (Mono Black Zombies)
Imman Van Valerio (Temur Aetherworks)
Wee Pang Ming (Red-Green Pummeler)
Rei Anthony Coo (Black-Green Constrictor)
Dustan Tauli (Mardu Vehicles)
GP Amsterdam Top 8 Decks
Lukas Blohon (Black-Green Delirium)
Thomas Hendriks (Black-Green Delirium)
Raphael Coors (Black-Green Energy)
Alexander Mertins (Black-Green Energy)
Jelco Bodewes (Temur Aetherworks Marvel)
Micheal Maurici (Esper Vehicles)
Arjan van Leeuwen (Red-Green Pummeler)
Benjamin Luft (Blue-Red Control)
GP Manila Top 8 Decks
Qi Wentao (Esper Vehicles)
Ryoichi Tamada (White-Blue Flash) -WINNER-
Cholo Pascual (Mardu Blue)
Mark Anthony Biala (Mono Black Zombies)
Imman Van Valerio (Temur Aetherworks)
Wee Pang Ming (Red-Green Pummeler)
Rei Anthony Coo (Black-Green Constrictor)
Dustan Tauli (Mardu Vehicles)
GP Amsterdam Top 8 Decks
Lukas Blohon (Black-Green Delirium)
Thomas Hendriks (Black-Green Delirium)
Raphael Coors (Black-Green Energy)
Alexander Mertins (Black-Green Energy)
Jelco Bodewes (Temur Aetherworks Marvel)
Micheal Maurici (Esper Vehicles)
Arjan van Leeuwen (Red-Green Pummeler)
Benjamin Luft (Blue-Red Control)
Are results not a good indicator? Is everyone's argument that it's just not fun to play against and too random? I mean if you're looking at those numbers than I don't have a hard time believing people are going to move away from Marvel to other stuff that performed more reliably after this weekend.
SigmasonicX
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Just to make sure, did anyone actually discuss the GPs before that top 8 post above? Need to know for the thread highlights in the OP.
SigmasonicX
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While the answer is still probably "ban Marvel", a way Wizards could interpret that is that players are seeking stability and will come back if there isn't a ban for a while.
Apparently the paper magic meta is starting to lineup with the mtgo one. I knew it seemed like there was a real downtick in marvel decks. I'm going to need to adjust the reanimator list pretty heavily for this. Vehicles lists backed by counter spells are a real problem but the energy lists are more beatable.
GP Amsterdam day 2 was 40% marvel. That is definitely not a downtick. The top 8 paints a warped picture.
With R/G pummeler showing up in the top 8 will we see some of those cards go up in price? I've mostly stuck to just doing amonkhet draft/sealed and haven't really jumped into any other formats. Thinking about diving into standard for some FNM's with R/G pummeler. That deck looks pretty fun and relatively cheap.
A Serious Man
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This final match is pretty good.
Ended my first GP with 29 match points, so 9-4-2. One point short of getting a pro point. I didn't even expect to day 2, but it's still a little frustrating.
Today:
BG Energy 1-2
Mardu Vehicles 1-2
Temur Energy 1-2
Temur Marvel 1-1-1
Ninja Bye 2-0
Temur Marvel 2-0
I'm so exhausted and kinda bummed out that I didn't have a lot of time to explore the city. It's so beautiful here.
Today:
BG Energy 1-2
Mardu Vehicles 1-2
Temur Energy 1-2
Temur Marvel 1-1-1
Ninja Bye 2-0
Temur Marvel 2-0
I'm so exhausted and kinda bummed out that I didn't have a lot of time to explore the city. It's so beautiful here.
goldlion054
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Big Mama Ish and her kids buying time for Blohon to top deck the transgress to take a disallow to ult Nissa to end the game? What a filthy sequence.
It's cute how excited Reid Duke gets about magic
Good GP run Tuno! That's a lot of magic to be playing. I'm sorry you first GP had to be in this standard, but I hope you had fun! If do another GP, I recommend a team one of you can manage. It's the absolute most fun way to play.
It's cute how excited Reid Duke gets about magic
Good GP run Tuno! That's a lot of magic to be playing. I'm sorry you first GP had to be in this standard, but I hope you had fun! If do another GP, I recommend a team one of you can manage. It's the absolute most fun way to play.
Coverage swapped to GP Omaha https://www.twitch.tv/magic
That's a really good result, well done mate.
That's a really good result, well done mate.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I had a feeling BG would make a comeback.
Last time it eventually got hated out by the RG midrange variant that got Emmy banned.
Bad news for UR control. Ishkanah is such a beating.
Last time it eventually got hated out by the RG midrange variant that got Emmy banned.
Bad news for UR control. Ishkanah is such a beating.
you didn't hang on an extra day or two to walk around Amsterdam with perfect weather?
if you don't need to sleep super comfortably, book a hostel bed for the days after the tournament next time. Anyways, you did really well all things considered, too bad about missing that pro point
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
aren't pro points pointless unless you're seriously grinding for them?
GP Amsterdam 9th-32nd lists
15 marvels out of 24 decks, but Wotc will just refer to the top 8 to show how a varied meta they have.
15 marvels out of 24 decks, but Wotc will just refer to the top 8 to show how a varied meta they have.
How often do they report outside of top 8?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Every GP.
Don't know if you already said it but similar story with Manila's field. 10 out of 24 were Marvel outside of the top 8.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpman17/9th-32nd-decklists-2017-06-04
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpman17/9th-32nd-decklists-2017-06-04
Always. They used to post full day 2 metagame breakdowns but they stopped recently, probably so they can control the narrative better.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, they should just ban Ulamog if they want to keep Marvel around. Bolas isn't nearly as strong as Ulamog and plays fair.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
lmao @ Brad Nelson trolling commentary by continuing to insist he hit Ulamog on this Marvel activation when he didn't and everyone in chat is asking "WTF is he slow rolling his opponent"
and then he punts his way to 2 life and hits Ulamog and wins anyways. Seems fun.
and then he punts his way to 2 life and hits Ulamog and wins anyways. Seems fun.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think Reid Duke just realized he wasn't supposed to mention that there's 800 players at GP Omaha when there is normally 1,200.
Also the Top 8 has 6 Marvel decks.
Also the Top 8 has 6 Marvel decks.
Marvel isn't gonna get banned until BfZ rotates out. If it's still the deck to beat after Ulamog is gone, then they might consider doing something about it, but until then it's just bad business banning yet another card again. It's not completely dominating the GP top ranks so they'll figure they can risk having it around for another couple months
well, Amonkhet didn't exactly have a strong showing in standard so far
Imperfected
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Not much way to dance around it with the way the Top 8 all went into negotiated draws mode and left them casting go-nowhere games for an hour.
If the Wizards don't like it they can fix the format, talent can only spit-shine so hard.
Only one Marvel deck in the Top 8 of Amsterdam. Was a very enjoyable GP.
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That Top 32 though. Jesus.
Marvel isn't gonna get banned until BfZ rotates out. If it's still the deck to beat after Ulamog is gone, then they might consider doing something about it, but until then it's just bad business banning yet another card again. It's not completely dominating the GP top ranks so they'll figure they can risk having it around for another couple months
well, Amonkhet didn't exactly have a strong showing in standard so far
Isn't it?
GP Amsterdam Top 32 Metagame Breakdown:
16 Temur Aetherworks Marvel (50%)
4 BG Energy
3 UR Control
2 BG Delirium
2 4-Color Vehicles
1 Esper Vehicles
1 RG Pummeler
1 Temur Energy
1 Mono B Zombies
1 Jeskai Vehicles
GP Manila Top 32 Metagame Breakdown:
10 Temur Aetherworks Marvel (31%)
4 Mardu Vehicles
3 BG Energy
3 Jeskai Vehicles
2 WU Flash
2 RG Energy
1 4-Color Aetherworks Marvel
1 UR Control
1 BG Delirium
1 BG Midrange
1 Esper Vehicles
1 RG Pummeler
1 Mono B Zombies
1 4-Color Vehicles
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Not surprised at all that there's so little UR control
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