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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Technically I got in at mirrodin. I have a bunch of onslaught and mirrodin block cards but nothing valuable from then. But I mostly bounced in n out since then and reaaalllyyy got back in at Innistrad.
It's probably why I am so fond of artifact blocks. Or maybe just mirrodin cause Kaladesh seemed kinda meh.
I wanna go back to New Phyrexia.
It's probably why I am so fond of artifact blocks. Or maybe just mirrodin cause Kaladesh seemed kinda meh.
I wanna go back to New Phyrexia.
I started playing with my brother with a portal second age thing. Then we moved on to Invasion/Planeshift theme decks and brought some friends into the game with 7th edition. My first prerelease was Scourge.
Then I stopped playing after Coldsnap and came back with Battle for Zendikar, my first prerelease of this second era was Shadows.
Then I stopped playing after Coldsnap and came back with Battle for Zendikar, my first prerelease of this second era was Shadows.
GregLombardi
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I lost 2 of these in ante games to the much older kid up the street during the set in which I started playing:
RuinerPrime
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Started playing with M13 & Return to Ravnica
I guess I'm relatively new still.
I guess I'm relatively new still.
Poodlestrike
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I started for the first time at some point in the first Mirrodin block (don't ask for specifics, I was in elementary school at the time 
). Been on again off again ever since. Basically just kitchen table stuff, though there were a few guys in highschool with more serious constructed decks. Haven't really paid any attention for the last 5 or so years, but like I said when I entered the thread, Egyptian Mythology is just too cool for me to pass this up.
). Been on again off again ever since. Basically just kitchen table stuff, though there were a few guys in highschool with more serious constructed decks. Haven't really paid any attention for the last 5 or so years, but like I said when I entered the thread, Egyptian Mythology is just too cool for me to pass this up.divisionbyzorro
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Innistrad. Not that much older.
Ultimate_Trainer
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I started with M12 and only really played casually from that set and stopped until Aether Revolt.
I kinda got into competitive standard with Aether Revolt.
I kinda got into competitive standard with Aether Revolt.
For what it's worth, I took a large hiatus from MtG and came back to it with M13 and RTR. Skipped everything between that and Future Sight. First Mythic Rare I ever got was the reprint of Bolas in M13.
Tibalt is at least okay in dredge because he gives you a dredge trigger every turn which is actually doing something. Why would anyone want to play gideon champion of justice?
Me too :3
Played kitchen table with my brother when Ice Age came out. Most prized cards were a Shivan Dragon and Dakkon Blackblade. Then didn't play for a very long time. Started playing again, due to one of the Duels games, right around when New Phyrexia came out.
Was super into Standard from Innistrad to Tarkir, and now I'm primarily a Limited player. (Innistrad + RTR Standard was so goooood.) I also have a Modern deck I occasionally use and also play Proxy Legacy.
Was super into Standard from Innistrad to Tarkir, and now I'm primarily a Limited player. (Innistrad + RTR Standard was so goooood.) I also have a Modern deck I occasionally use and also play Proxy Legacy.
charlequin
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Yeah, this definitely isn't good for anything important enough to be seriously playable. This is why my suggestion is a branded, promoted, static-contents product marketed to new players and tournament players who want staples. Charge $50 for it (this is what a new board game costs), maybe build it so you can mix-and-match it into two decks or something, include all these basic cards that are gonna be tournament staples, rotate it once or twice a year.
So it's bad because players don't like it, causing retailers to hate having a slow moving set.
They can make it work of they put in the effort. They started to with M2013, adding slivers, they just completely dropped the ball. M2014 was kind of the same, but also not exiting. M2015 was forgettable. Origins was going a cool way, just not at the right time. Then they dropped it.
Yeah, if they continue doing Core sets the way they have since Fifth Edition, of course most players won't like them. They ended up being the same sets pretty much, just with different bombs (that is the purpose after all). But if they take the M13 idea of adding something to it, not fucking it up, and building up from there They could make a set that players like.
Also, if they go 3-1-2-2 with blocks they have some cool options to do. Choose a good story/world and make that a 3 set block, really focus on story and making it worth it. Plane changing blocks are pretty good stories for this and allow for a Big Small Big if they really want so they can get the draft environment they want. Something like the Gatewatch trying to restore Mirrodin on New Phyrexia, or whatever.
Follow up with a Core Set that is setup for the next couple blocks story wise or gives more back story on a character, maybe teasing a future plane and getting some feedback on it. They could split the Gatewatch up and have a reason for all the staples to show up, with one going somewhere cool. If they add something to help differentiate it from all the other core sets every time, while still giving something new, players might actually start to like them.
Then do there 2 set blocks. This keeps rotation and set releases consistent, allows further plane development if they have the story to go with it, gets the core set back, while still giving them the chance to run through planes and have new places that are exciting.
I brought up the starter deck cards last thread I think. They have even sort of double downed on this with the planeswalker decks having unique planeswalker.
They could even go with Duel decks being part of Standard. They don't want to use them as an avenue to reprint money cards anymore, just make them all Standard legal and through reprints in there. Casuals would probably like having two FNM 'ready' decks for $20.
Started in Revised. Friend's Mom found two starter decks after reading about them in the paper. Played through Exodus, got pissed at them adding rarity symbols and something else. Also around the time I was starting to work and didn't have time for more than one hobby (videogames won out) Bought packs through Mirrodin, then joined the Navy. Got back into it around Roe. Since then been playing pretty consistently.
Will probably at least draft until I can't find a place to draft at. And have a cube that I will hopefully never have to get rid of. Just keep updating it and have it as a nice 4-8 player game.
Edit: Got started around Mercadian Masques, also got a lot of Ice Age Cards around that time (i was young) wish i had cracked dozens of Urza block packs insead
Make it once every five years even, assuming the same base cards make up the set every time, Wizards (Hasbro) makes no money printing the same cards again and again that nobody will buy. That way you can also throw in needed reprints every so often
Make it once every five years even, assuming the same base cards make up the set every time, Wizards (Hasbro) makes no money printing the same cards again and again that nobody will buy. That way you can also throw in needed reprints every so often
divisionbyzorro
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M12 was great. I also personally really enjoyed M15.
GoutPatrol
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One of these days I want to put Sphinx of Magosi in my deck and see what people say. It fits with Amonkhet!
edit: When they had the Modern flashback draft last year I really loved playing 9th and 10th edition core set limited.
Imperfected
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I grew up a hundred miles from the nearest LGS, so while I bought some packs and did some mild kitchen table play all the way back to the beginning, it wasn't until Ice Age that I ever had much of anyone to play with.
I didn't play much while I was in the military (too busy, too deployed), and came back around to it (and much more enthusiastically) with the Innistrad block.
I still dip out for a block or two at a time when it suits me; the Magic itch is very much something I can turn off if I just plain don't like a set.
SigmasonicX
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I can't help but notice that the only source of this core set information appears to be this one Reddit thread, none of the other Magic boards I go to are discussing this, and no evidence has been produced other than this one screenshot. As far as I can tell, no one else has actually seen this question.
The Atlazan leak at least had art you couldn't find anywhere else. This is literally just text that anyone could make.
EDIT: Google searching "Magic core set return" and limiting it to the past 24 hours puts this thread as one of the top results. It's the only result other than the Reddit thread that's actually about this.
The Atlazan leak at least had art you couldn't find anywhere else. This is literally just text that anyone could make.
EDIT: Google searching "Magic core set return" and limiting it to the past 24 hours puts this thread as one of the top results. It's the only result other than the Reddit thread that's actually about this.
I started buying packs of Prophecy and Mercadian Masques back in the day, mostly for the art at the time. It was something fun to collect with my brother.
But later on I started actually playing the game when OG Mirrodin came out. Learned with a few friends and had a blast for a few years before falling out of it eventually.
But in college, around when Zendikar first hit, I got sucked back in when a few dorm neighbors and I started hanging out more and becoming friends. They had these fancy new cards called "planeswalkers" that just blew my mind haha...
I've been playing on and off ever since then, with my favorite block being the first run of Innistrad.
But later on I started actually playing the game when OG Mirrodin came out. Learned with a few friends and had a blast for a few years before falling out of it eventually.
But in college, around when Zendikar first hit, I got sucked back in when a few dorm neighbors and I started hanging out more and becoming friends. They had these fancy new cards called "planeswalkers" that just blew my mind haha...
I've been playing on and off ever since then, with my favorite block being the first run of Innistrad.
PROPHECY BABY
All the Avatars were awesome as hell to me
RK post on each one
I have those in my Vial Smasher EDH deck. 2 mana fatty dragon that vial smashes for 8 is amazing.
charlequin
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Nah, the problems with the core set are structural. It's never going to be as interesting to draft because of the mechanical shallowness (they only ever succeeded once at having a Core Set be good in limited, with M13.) It's never going to have good value for money because one of its goals is to reprint cards people need into Standard, which means it inevitably fills up with $3 overprinted rares and has to burn potentially valuable slots (like dual land cycles) on stuff people already have.
M12, really?!
Imperfected
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Planeswalkers were definitely eye-popping when I got back in. There really hasn't been anything comparable since. ("Oh man, let me tell you about VEHICLES! They're... basically artifact creatures designed by a chimp.")
Imperfected
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Planeswalkers were well-enough received that they became a de facto card type in basically every set.
Vehicles have been well-enough received that when they bring them back for a block or two in a few years we might be able to have a 50/50 split on whether or not it's a mistake.
Vehicles have been well-enough received that when they bring them back for a block or two in a few years we might be able to have a 50/50 split on whether or not it's a mistake.
Some of the vehicles were too good for limited tbh. The power to rarity was weirdly unbalanced. When a common and uncommon vehicle feels more like rare and mythic, it can lead to some unfun games.
Renegade Freighter was a hair too strong. Dino train was way too strong. Other than those two, I think the common and uncommon vehicles were in a good place.
CoconutTank
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I think I started playing during the Tempest block? I learned about MtG during the Mirage block but didn't start playing till maybe about a year or two later.
TheBlackMarvel
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First started playing around Tempest. Saw Selenia, Dark Angel and was hooked for a while. Dropped out until Avacyn Restored and then didn't start playing again until Shadows Over Innistrad.
I first started playing right when original Ravnica hit, then dropped off at Cold Snap and missed some sweet sweet sets and then came back in Theros and have been firmly back in the game from then on. I really wish I had stuck with it and enjoyed those golden years....
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divisionbyzorro
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Typo! I meant M13. The one with Exalted.
Started playing during Revised/Fallen Empires era and stuck around buying packs until I stopped around Masques block. Came back near the end of Theros block.
Ehhh. I'd say it's largely been a pretty lukewarm response but maybe I'm reading too much into the reactions of the MTG players I know.
Ehhh. I'd say it's largely been a pretty lukewarm response but maybe I'm reading too much into the reactions of the MTG players I know.
Just going to say, it doesn't matter how many blocks they give dominaria - you are going to be dissapointed.
Dominaria doesn't work as a plane. It has more locations and continents in it than every other plane combined right now. Each continent on Dominaria should be its own plane. There is absolutely no way to make a two, three, or even four set block that gives you the feel and aesthetics of Yavimaya, Llanorwar, Urborg, Ottaria, Benalesh, all the mirage continent, etc. Etc. Dominaria is just too big a place with too many different environments and too much history for them.
What's up with the print quality of Amonket? Half the boosters in the bundle have small cuts in the booster packs and some cards in a couple of my boosters are straight up scratched with a milimeter deep 3 centimer wide scratch. A few of them also feature ink issues. I can understand that, but the scratches are just unacceptable. Luckily it was just the commons but I don't want it to happen to one of my rares.
I don't know anyone who liked them. In Limited they utterly dominate the format, and in standard their creatures that are immune to sorcery speed removal, which makes the game feel far more uninteractive.
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I honestly don't even see why they exist. They feel like something they did because everyone has been saying how easy they would be to do for ages. Also thematically I'm not keen - Magic doesn't have guns but it does have bullet trains and flying aircraft carriers apparently...
I think they would've been better received if they hadn't been quite as pushed as they were. I mean, they've had to ban one of them and there's no shortage of people who said they should've banned another. Even stuff like Aethersphere Harvester is pretty pushed, it's just that no one uses it because Heart exists.
I'd have been down for more exploration of vehicles as a returning card type if this fist batch hadn't been awful to deal with.
SigmasonicX
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MaRo seems pretty confident that vehicles were well received and are likely to return.
Isn't it more the opposite? Players get more excited about a mechanic if it has broken cards. Players like equipment for the Swords, etc.
Yeah, I guess you're right. I still would've preferred them to have been toned down a bit.
Or rather, they could've kept the same power level if they printed some decent instant speed removal alongside them. I would've felt much better about Vehicles if Hero's Downfall was still a thing.
This have been my biggest issue with vehicles and standard in general. Sorcery spells beside Demolition (and artifact hate) simply could not deal with Vehicles. In standard, you simply could not tap out, hence why we all wanted another Hero's Downfall. Felidar ban should make sorcery good again though.
SigmasonicX
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MaRo on "vanilla creatures matter" as a major theme
He doesn't bring up heavy use of tokens, but that also has its share of problems and would warp the environment, as seen by populate in Return to Ravnica. Plus, you know, many of the tokens in that set had abilities.
And creatures with "when this ETB, create tokens" are not vanilla creatures themselves.
He doesn't bring up heavy use of tokens, but that also has its share of problems and would warp the environment, as seen by populate in Return to Ravnica. Plus, you know, many of the tokens in that set had abilities.
And creatures with "when this ETB, create tokens" are not vanilla creatures themselves.
I really enjoy vehicles, so now you know a person.
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