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[divisionbyzorro]

I also totally missed it on first read. Wow.

 

[Santiako]

When's the full spoiler, next week?

Next Friday.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Why are there so many punisher mechanics in this set

 

[OnPoint]

Why are there so many punisher mechanics in this set

I think this is them connecting Bolas' effects to Cruel Ultimatum.

Lose life OR sacrifice permanent OR discard card

It's pretty cheesy.

 

[Yeef]

In the article it explains that it was originally a mechanic (torment), but it was too good to have on so many cards, so they just cut it back to this vertical cycle.

 

[charlequin]

I don't know why but these are just so fucking hilarious to me:

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I like the thought of Yawgmoth impersonating Urza as the raven man to get a kick out of it.

 

[SigmasonicX]

I don't know why but these are just so fucking hilarious to me:

Amazing.

 

[Toxi]

I don't know why but these are just so fucking hilarious to me:

This is my new head canon.

 

[FreedomFrisbee]

Urza is written that way even in comparison to the other oldwalkers, though. He's constantly having ridiculous ultra-long-term plans pay off even when it makes no sense either to make the plan that way or for it to actually work.

I think you're over exaggerating. He wasn't really a constant churn of super plans. He was Brother's War, Urza's Saga, then background character, then Invasion. Invasion was long term plots paying off on all sides, but it was practically all confined to Invasion. Which, when boiled down to it, Invasion was just a Jojo back and forth between Urza and Yawgmoth. There's a lot to dislike about the Invasion storyline, but for what it was I enjoyed it. Disliking Invasion Urza is completely reasonable, but that character was the way he was with purpose inside the story, at the very least. Really Urza then isn't much different from Bolas now.

The notion that Urza was somehow the most powerful planeswalker ever has always been odd to me because he wasn't particularly more powerful than any of the other oldwalkers, and was subdued by them on a handful of occasions. He could just make artifacts real good. And even then it was mostly re-purposed Phyrexian tech.

 

[HK-47]

Farm to Market shows they are already running out of naming ideas somehow for aftermath. Also I don't think it's a StP callback but that would make it even more flavor garbage.

 

[Ashodin]

Urza was Batman.

 

[alternade]

Where's the best place to buy foreign cards, particularly Japanese and Italian?

 

[OnPoint]

Farm to Market shows they are already running out of naming ideas somehow for aftermath. Also I don't think it's a StP callback but that would make it even more flavor garbage.

Its white agricultural based creature removal.

Come on. What else could they have meant

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Its white agricultural based creature removal.

Come on. What else could they have meant

but the aftermath card doesn't tell a story.

 

[shrapnelmagnet]

With that Torment of Hailfire, can you choose to Discard and then just discard your hand if the X exceeds the number of cards in your hand?

 

[SigmasonicX]

Would you guys be open to less strict naming conventions with split cards? Instead of using actual phrases, it could use names like "Bolas's Punch // Gideon's Kick".

 

[SigmasonicX]

With that Torment of Hailfire, can you choose to Discard and then just discard your hand if the X exceeds the number of cards in your hand?

No, it says to repeat the entire process X times, so you can't just say you'll discard X cards when you have less than that. After you discard the N cards you have, you no longer have the option to discard.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Would you guys be open to less strict naming conventions with split cards? Instead of using actual phrases, it could use names like "Bolas's Punch // Gideon's Kick".

If it's consistent across all aftermath cards.

 

[aidan]

Would you guys be open to less strict naming conventions with split cards? Instead of using actual phrases, it could use names like "Bolas's Punch // Gideon's Kick".

I think you're missing an opportunity:

Bolas's Punch // Gideon's Balls

 

[Infinite Stars]

I mean, the joke idea for Farm To Market would be Farm (having art of an escapee being detained by a mummy as they try to hide from Bolas) to Market(having that same refugee being given back to Bolas by a dedicated worshiper in exchange for something). However, that fits more in the WB Aftermath, not WU.

Farm 1W

Instant

Destroy target Attacking or Blocking Creature. It's controller gains X life, where X is that creature's CMC.



//

Market 3BB

Sorcery

Choose Target Creature in a graveyard. You may pay X life, where X is that creature's CMC. If you do, put that creature into play under your control.

 

[Imperfected]

I'm just shocked there wasn't already a Land card named "Farm".

 

[Angry Grimace]

A card named "Farm" that isn't just Swords to Plowshares sucks.

 

[shrapnelmagnet]

No, it says to repeat the entire process X times, so you can't just say you'll discard X cards when you have less than that. After you discard the N cards you have, you no longer have the option to discard.

Oh, that's true. I have a friend who is already in love with this thing lol. I already see it on the stack in my future.

A card named "Farm" that isn't just Swords to Plowshares sucks.

Just glad it's not called "Plow".

Plow // Plate

Plate could be like Feast of the Unicorn 😬

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Amir I got an Aether Hub for you. You were randomly selected after you left.


Aside from that. Playset complete!

Now I need to get the same results with Fatal Push in september.

 

[Tunoku]

Amir I got an Aether Hub for you. You were randomly selected after you left.

Oh snap, thanks! I was a little frustrated after drawing effectively 11 spells and 16 lands against Mardu in round 5.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Resilient Khenra
1G
Creature – Jackal Wizard
2/2
When Resilient Khenra enters the battlefield, you may have target creature get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is Resilient Khenra's power.
Eternalize 4GG

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

it can pump itself to crew heart or turn on Rhonas.

 

[Murder]

Doesn't seem like anything special to me.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Doesn't seem like anything special to me.

because we have some truly OP 2 drops right now. Fucking Sylvan Advocate doesn't even see play.

 

[Justin]

Still not sold on Eternalize. Is the format as we have seen so far going to slow down enough to make it viable?

 

[siddx]

Resilient fellow needs either flash or haste to be remotely worth being a rare. I am a lifelong fan if green ever since I cobbled my first stompy deck together in 97 and put a whoopin on all my friends...But that card is just underwhelming and dull.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I assume there's no flash embalm/eternalize creature because it either confused people in testing or they never even attempted it as embalm/eternalize say sorcery speed in the reminder text.

 

[shrapnelmagnet]

it can pump itself to crew heart or turn on Rhonas.

Better yet with Always Watching, enters the B, crews Heart, pumps Heart

/christmastree

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Better yet with Always Watching, enters the B, crews Heart, pumps Heart

/christmastree

doesn't work. Heart has to be a creature when you put the trigger on the stack to be a valid target which is before you can crew it with it.

 

[Ashodin]

Still not sold on Eternalize. Is the format as we have seen so far going to slow down enough to make it viable?

nah. It's foremost a limited mechanic.

Only Embalm creature that sees real play is Angel of Sanctions.

 

[charlequin]

I guess I can reluctantly forgive Maro for saying Urza is green if he's also willing to say shit like this:

Make no mistake. I consider Urza a villain.

 

[shrapnelmagnet]

doesn't work. Heart has to be a creature when you put the trigger on the stack to be a valid target which is before you can crew it with it.

Hmm, really? You can respond to the ETB trigger, though, no?

Could be right, obvs. Would assume you could crew and target the animated Vehicle.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Hmm, really? You can respond to the ETB trigger, though, no?

Could be right, obvs. Would assume you could crew and target the animated Vehicle.

The issue is when you place a trigger on the stack you have to set appropriate targets already and there is no timeframe between a creature with an ETB trigger being in play but before you have to put the trigger on the stack.

 

[shrapnelmagnet]

The issue is when you place a trigger on the stack you have to set appropriate targets already and there is no timeframe between a creature with an ETB trigger being in play but before you have to put the trigger on the stack.

I see- yeah, reading more about that now since I think I have been playing similar effects wrong. Interesting. Too bad, but glad I now know, thanks!

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

It'd only work if you have a trigger that determines the target when it resolves.
For instance you could animate a vehicle in response to a bolster trigger.

Important wording difference is "choose" over "target" to see what is what.

 

[Hero]

I guess I can reluctantly forgive Maro for saying Urza is green if he's also willing to say shit like this:

Although I really hated how the storyline ended (and I can't wait for him to explain the full story of what happened with what him and the other guy wanted to write vs what they had to do) but Urza was full blown villain. I mean the Brothers War was kind of like "whoa, dude, going a little overboard, don't you think?" and then when we got to Urza's Legacy and he destroyed Serra's Realm, it was like "Yup, Urza is a fucking asshole."

 

[Ashodin]

I guess I can reluctantly forgive Maro for saying Urza is green if he's also willing to say shit like this:

I mean, he did what he had to. He lived long enough to become a villain.

Really long

 

[pigeon]

I guess I can reluctantly forgive Maro for saying Urza is green if he's also willing to say shit like this:

Don't we...already know Urza's color because they made a card that was Urza and it's mono blue?

 

[Crocodile]

Resilient Khenra
1G
Creature – Jackal Wizard
2/2
When Resilient Khenra enters the battlefield, you may have target creature get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is Resilient Khenra's power.
Eternalize 4GG

This needed to have/give trample for me to give it the thumbs up. It's annoying because I'd really like the card otherwise.

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Don't we...already know Urza's color because they made a card that was Urza and it's mono blue?

Not really, we know what he was pretending to be.

 

[Angry Grimace]

This needed to have/give trample for me to give it the thumbs up. It's annoying because I'd really like the card otherwise.

I wouldn't be surprised if they thought you would play the card with Rhonas and this card would be stupid good with Rhonas if you could buff and give him trample twice.

Don't we...already know Urza's color because they made a card that was Urza and it's mono blue?

 

[Infinite Stars]

Urza as Green having Regenerate is probably the best version of this tired, hashed out meme

 

[siddx]

I guess I can reluctantly forgive Maro for saying Urza is green if he's also willing to say shit like this:

I mean yeah, I don't see how that's even a debate. Urza was a manipulative selfish asshole who let or led real heroes to their deaths all for his own goals. He helped set in motion things that saved the world, but at the expense of countless lives and not for heroism but rather for his own selfish desires. If they bring him back I could definitely see him being the antagonist of the story.

I am one of the seemingly few who really like magic lore, including the gatewatch stuff, so I'm biased but I do hope the bring him back.

Considering what a selfish dick he was, his planewalker abilities should be something like

0: sacrifice a creature: put two tokens on urza
-4: exile target planeswalker, search your opponents library, hand, and graveyard for any card with the same name as exiled planeswalker and exile those cards.
-8: take out your dick and tit and slap your opponents with it.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Urza as Green having Regenerate is probably the best version of this tired, hashed out meme

You're crazy if you think this meme is tired or hashed out.