Imperfected
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I guess something can still be a meme even if only seven people know or care about it.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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Pretending to be something else doesn't change your color. cf. Duplicant.
TheBlackMarvel
Member
Pretty certain clone effects do change the colour of the thing changing so...
EDIT: Not to mention, characters are clearly not locked into a particular colour so Urza being printed as a blue card doesn't prevent him being printed as a 4
or even 5
It's his actions and motivations that lock him from being green.
But clones aren't pretending, they're actual copies. Urza as the Blind Seer isn't a copy of some blind seer he saw, he's just Urza wearing a funny hat.
TheBlackMarvel
Member
He's also a creature rather than a Planeswalker. Seems he's a bit more going on there than "Urza wearing a funny hat."
That's clearly just what happens when a planeswalker wears a hat. Notice that no planeswalkers are wearing hats on their planeswalker cards.
Imperfected
Member
Garruk had a hat. That's why he had to go.
TheBlackMarvel
Member
Jace has a hood, that's a kind of hat, right?
Don't be silly. That's obviously a helmet.
You said yourself it's a hood! What is the deal with you guys?
Imperfected
Member
It's close enough to a hat to warrant banishment and replacement with an elf.
Lily better not get too comfortable with that tiara, either.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Garruk's helmet was the closest thing any of the planeswalkers had that could be ascribed iconic.
If it weren't a inferior version of
Venser's
If shadow gets banned then we would have to ban eldrazi temple, mix opal and baral from storm to have a somewhat balanced metagame. No one wants this. Unbans are needed if anything.
FreedomFrisbee
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If we're banning anything out of Death's Shadow it should be Street Wraith first. The only reason we're not all calling for its head yet is because hate bears proved to be its poison. That might be enough to keep it in check and it might not be. Otherwise, having a deck that is far and away the best deck in the format will only eat the format inside out over time.
I actually think the pros may be tilting towards the overrated side on DS lately. The deck is clearly the best deck in modern and it does things with an efficiency no deck in modern has done before, but it's far from a problem in my eyes. The deck doesn't have lopsided winrates against any other t1/t2 deck (I'd go so far as to say it doesn't even hit 65% against any t1/t2 deck) and there are several t1/t2 decks that are significantly favored against it and decent choices for the rest of the meta as well. (If I were to enter another modern tourney tomorrow, I'd run Jeskai Control again as I still feel it's the best positioned deck in the current meta)
A ban against DS would be a huge mistake. I could see targeting street wraith and bauble- as a stretch- more for philosophy reasons than DS' power level, but I'd be hesitant to mess with modern right now anyways as it's in a great place. If I were to start banning/unbanning for non power level reasons, I'd probably hit SSG first/as well as street wraith anyways, and I wouldn't put any of the SSG decks in tier 1 right now.
A ban against DS would be a huge mistake. I could see targeting street wraith and bauble- as a stretch- more for philosophy reasons than DS' power level, but I'd be hesitant to mess with modern right now anyways as it's in a great place. If I were to start banning/unbanning for non power level reasons, I'd probably hit SSG first/as well as street wraith anyways, and I wouldn't put any of the SSG decks in tier 1 right now.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Death's Shadow isn't getting banned.
What's your guys' takes on conceding or forcing a draw in FNM? Buddy had the kill 100% but time went up (including the extra turns) and his opponent refused to concede so they both went 3-0-1.
A ban seems like a stupid thing to even consider seeing as how the modern field is so diverse when Death's Shadow only taking up at most like 20% at times. That's hardly anything to really worry over. People will most likely find ways to deal with it (and as mentioned, hatebears seems to be the way).
A ban seems like a stupid thing to even consider seeing as how the modern field is so diverse when Death's Shadow only taking up at most like 20% at times. That's hardly anything to really worry over. People will most likely find ways to deal with it (and as mentioned, hatebears seems to be the way).
I concede if it's clear who won and not a competitive REL event. Never had to make that decision at a PTQ or GP, though, so I can't say I'd do the same when the stakes are higher. I certainly wouldn't fault someone for taking a draw. Sadly, this is just an area where the paper game is inferior to MTGO.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Whether I concede depends on what they are playing. If they are on Ivan Floch draw-go I'm not conceding because they brought it on.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Vial of Dragonfire functional reprint
I'll concede if it bumps him from "no prize" with a draw to "some prize" with a win (so generally third round if we're both 1-1). Even if I think I should've won, if time's up and we're both looking at getting nothing I'll throw him the W.
I wouldn't go as far as to call modern amazing. The format is okay. It's no where near what it was prior to twin's banning. Twin meta was really fun because more decks were represented despite their being a best deck. I enjoyed cruise meta more than this one tbh.
I hardly call modern diverse when it's mainly just aggro and combo with shadow thrown in as the midrange deck. The diversity is okay but it's not amazing by any stretch.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think that's the idea for Modern.
I'm actually imagining that it doesn't exist on the spoiler sheet. Like, it's a total lie, like all of Bolas' promises. Yes, that means Gate to the Afterlife would effectively sac for nothing.
I'm confused by what you mean by this. Having one police deck is pretty bad for a formats health. I honestly wish they would unban twin so the meta could be healthier. Since shadow is the best deck twin wouldn't even dominate since shadow runs so much discard.
Imperfected
Member
In FNM? Harshly negative, though not the level of sheer contempt I feel for intentional draws.
If you're doing this as your job I understand using every tool available within the rules of the game to try and protect your livelihood. If you're doing it for fun, then you really should be able to step back and see that what you're doing--again, mainly in the case of intentional draws, where you're opting not to play the game, the entire thing you showed up to do--is inappropriate.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think the idea is that they don't want Modern to be a combo paradise.
Modern right now is one of the best eternal formats that they've ever had. DS isn't getting banned and nothing is getting unbanned.
The most reasonable unban on the current ban list list is legitimately Jace, the Mind Sculptor.
Nah I'd say bbe because jund midrange is pretty much dead. Even jund shadow is nearly gone and I don't even know how good it is a shadow deck with the limited land count and weird cascade hits.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I just feel like JTMS is at least justifiable but not actually necessary given the meta being so good.
Imperfected
Member
The Eternalize tokens look pretty dorky for the most part, but the pre-Eternalize art on the cards is generally pretty good, so I don't mind that much. I mean, it's pretty even odds I'm just going to flip some random unsleeved land and drop a die on it to use as a token, anyway.
charlequin
Banned
Certainly not Twin, good lord.
Remembrance
Member
God-Pharaoh's Gift is going to be some kind of Eternalize-on-a-stick, isn't it.
Infinite Stars
Member
Can confirm, Hatebears wins because we can destroy their lands in a way with a clock/The Post Bolt Meta has been a godsend for cards like Thalia Heretic Cathar/Mirran Crusader.
I mean, I'd still like a bit more love of Blue White(the brewer in me loves stuff like "Ojutai's Command returning Gavony Rider" and fixing (SSG is a strictly better Chrome Mox 90% of the time, so I don't see why the later is banned while the former is free)
If we were the only 3-0s, would probably draw as well, we would just end up splitting anyway.
If not, I would do everything I could the last turn, including attack with everything and right before the end step concede. Doesn't really matter too much to me though.
I do know some people that won't ever concede and will push for the draw just for the planeswalker points. Especially this early in the season, since they want to try to make sure they can get a bye or two. Can't really fault them, starting a GP 2-0 is better than starting 0-0, especially since you have less of a chance of going up against some rogue deck.
I was thinking about that as well. BBE could possibly see an unbam, especially since they changed the rules on split cards so BBE can't abuse them like it used to. The only thing that might be kind of strange is Ancestrall Visions is unbanned now, that would be am alright target possibly, though don't think it would be good in the deck.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
DS definitely has to be knocked down a peg. It's not enough to have 1 deck that preys upon it but is only viable due to a messed up meta where bolt isn't heavily played.
Also never ever unban Twin.
Also never ever unban Twin.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
because push and path kill master of waves.
Serious though bolt is one of the best cards ever printed but it's not good enough for the best deck in the format that already plays red. That's just crazy.
Serious though bolt is one of the best cards ever printed but it's not good enough for the best deck in the format that already plays red. That's just crazy.
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Transhuman
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Sell Mishra's Bauble now when it is $40 before people ask themselves "why am I paying $40 for a mishra's bauble"?
JTMS unbanning would bring me back to the game.
The unbanning of a $100 POS would bring you back?
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