This isn't entirely true. If it was legendary and didn't have the land type on it the cards wouldn't have much in commom.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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I misread "Legendary Dual Lands with no types" as "Legendary Dual Lands with land types."
I don't feel like EDH decks have much trouble with mana bases as it is. I don't see any reason to just do legendary dual lands that enter untapped. It's a fairly boring design for little (if any) gain.
I don't feel like EDH decks have much trouble with mana bases as it is. I don't see any reason to just do legendary dual lands that enter untapped. It's a fairly boring design for little (if any) gain.
ThLunarian
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Is there a website that most people agree has the best estimate of the market value of Magic singles? I've seen mtgstocks.com referenced multiple times; I'm curious if that's a widely held consensus or not.
blindrocket
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I like to use mtggoldfish.com
divisionbyzorro
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When I hear Legendary Duals, I assume it means land-typed. Even still, I don't believe you run afoul of the reserved list with this. Legendary on a land is way more of a "strictly worse" designation than it is on a creature. A "Legendary Palinchron" is far more of a functionally identical card than a "Legendary Bayou."
Joe Molotov
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Ugh, completely ate shit at a PPTQ this weekend. I should just stick to FNM.
I'm excited about this card in the upcoming Commander deck.
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I'm eager to see what else the deck contains. I wonder if it will have the mana rocks that fit this creatures flavor: Eye of Ramos, Heart of Ramos, Horn of Ramos, Skull of Ramos, and Tooth of Ramos.
Yeah, Ramos looks awesome. Solves one of the biggest problems I have with most 5-color commanders, that being that getting all 5 colors consistently on turn 5 sucks. At least with Ramos you can fudge it and pay its cost however you want, even if you don't get the full benefits for not casting 5-color spells.
Also tons of ways to build a deck around it. Voltron? Sure! Pumps itself with every spell you cast. Janky Fist of the Suns deck? You bet! Remove 5 counters, get two spells. Ramp into Progenitus or Door to Nothingness? Yes please!
Probably yisan or selvala. Mono green is fairly budget.
Main wincon is infinite mana via umbral mantle and beast within blowing up every bodies permanents using e wit and Temur sabertooth to bounce to regrow the beast within.
Or you can draw your deck with staff of domination and draw your deck.
Other than that there is the pump and swing with concordant crossroads line as well. Deck is pretty cheap (outside cradles) and runs maybe 500 or so. I think it is pretty good. Yisan is tool box, I know less about that deck but runs some similar type things.
Here is a decklist for selvala: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/selvala-brostorm/
"God's Beard!"
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Update to my cycling list:
I might cut the 4th Drake Haven for a 2nd Obstructionist in the main, but right now literally 50% of my deck is cards that trigger discard.
I might cut the 4th Drake Haven for a 2nd Obstructionist in the main, but right now literally 50% of my deck is cards that trigger discard.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";244349058]Update to my cycling list:
I might cut the 4th Drake Haven for a 2nd Obstructionist in the main, but right now literally 50% of my deck is cards that trigger discard.[/QUOTE]
What about Hollow One and Abandoned Sarcophagus? Hollow One might be a bit durdly with no combat abilities, but getting a "free" 4/4 for cycling 3 or more cards sounds alright to me. And with so many cycling cards, Abandoned Sarcophagus might as well be a pseudo-Yawgmoth's Will if you cast it late in the game when you have a full yard.
I might cut the 4th Drake Haven for a 2nd Obstructionist in the main, but right now literally 50% of my deck is cards that trigger discard.[/QUOTE]
What about Hollow One and Abandoned Sarcophagus? Hollow One might be a bit durdly with no combat abilities, but getting a "free" 4/4 for cycling 3 or more cards sounds alright to me. And with so many cycling cards, Abandoned Sarcophagus might as well be a pseudo-Yawgmoth's Will if you cast it late in the game when you have a full yard.
"God's Beard!"
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The problem with Hollow One is that I mostly cycle at the opponent's end step, so I wouldn't be able to play it. The Sarcophagus is cool but a little slow and it's a nonbo with stuff like Lili's plus ability or if I cast illumination or my counters. Plus, I'm a little wary of playing artifacts when decks are playing abrade.
There's a version on cfb I saw that is all in combo with god pharoh's gift which might like both of the cards you mentioned, though.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";244351773]The problem with Hollow One is that I mostly cycle at the opponent's end step, so I wouldn't be able to play it. The Sarcophagus is cool but a little slow and it's a nonbo with stuff like Lili's plus ability or if I cast illumination or my counters. Plus, I'm a little wary of playing artifacts when decks are playing abrade.
There's a version on cfb I saw that is all in combo with god pharoh's gift which might like both of the cards you mentioned, though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Hollow One is probably too slow if you're focusing on EoT cycling. Drake Haven's way better for that.
I didn't see Lili in there, and yeah, Sarcophagus is a bit of a nonbo there. I just like the idea of the game going on for a while, dropping Sarcophagus and suddenly having 7-8 cards in your graveyard ready to be cast. Probably better as a sideboard trick for slower games when you're more sure they aren't running Abrade.
If I was doing anything with God-Pharaoh's Gift though, it'd be reanimating it early with Refurbish. Maybe a Mardu Gearhulks build, except instead of getting one gearhulk you get one every turn that's a bit smaller with haste.
There's a version on cfb I saw that is all in combo with god pharoh's gift which might like both of the cards you mentioned, though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Hollow One is probably too slow if you're focusing on EoT cycling. Drake Haven's way better for that.
I didn't see Lili in there, and yeah, Sarcophagus is a bit of a nonbo there. I just like the idea of the game going on for a while, dropping Sarcophagus and suddenly having 7-8 cards in your graveyard ready to be cast. Probably better as a sideboard trick for slower games when you're more sure they aren't running Abrade.
If I was doing anything with God-Pharaoh's Gift though, it'd be reanimating it early with Refurbish. Maybe a Mardu Gearhulks build, except instead of getting one gearhulk you get one every turn that's a bit smaller with haste.
"God's Beard!"
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The thing about red reanimator decks is that cathartic reunion getting countered is such a blowout.
Look at what won the standard online PPTQ
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/standard-ptq-2017-07-22
UW God-Pharaoh Gift Reanimator haha, awesome.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/standard-ptq-2017-07-22
UW God-Pharaoh Gift Reanimator haha, awesome.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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there's also a BR midrange deck in 6th
divisionbyzorro
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God-Pharaoh's Gift reminds me a lot of Whip of Erebos, and that card was super important to Standard for its lifespan. I won't be surprised if this does something similar.
Coolio. God-Pharoah's Gift + Angel of Invention sounds like a dope combo.
I wonder if you could do a janky Esper build with Marionette Master. Comes in as a 4/4 with three tokens, then use something like Hidden Stockpile to sac them all for 12 damage.
http://files.shareholder.com/downlo...asbro_Q2_2017_Earnings_Management_Remarks.pdf
Investor day looks like it's August 3rd. Hope we get something substantial about Digital Next.
Investor day looks like it's August 3rd. Hope we get something substantial about Digital Next.
divisionbyzorro
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The Scarab God is just a gross card. You don't even need to build around it for it to be bonkers.
And how about that RDW deck at #3?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
RDW has been tearing up the SCG circus last couple weekends too.
Those red agro decks look fun and its only $50... until you add in $90 of Chandras
Also a Samut deck in 5th place.
Turns out hasty beaters that prevent guys from blocking are pretty good aggressive cards. Who knew?
I love seeing the ones that have both Cartouche of Zeal and Trial of Zeal. I can't imagine anyone thinking that anyone would be playing one of the Trials in standard, much less doing a Trial + Cartouche combo.
charlequin
Banned
So is Standard good now?
Mausoleum Wanderer with God-Pharaoh's Gift is a great stupid/awesome interaction.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
its also a keypiece of emerge decks now
keeblerdrow
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And it appearing in temur emerge in the top 8 of SCG opens two weeks in a row. Double loot stapled to an eternal creature is powerful in that deck.
ThLunarian
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Man, now that I stop and think about it, Champion of Wits does seem really powerful. I'm surprised it didn't spike earlier. One of those under the radar type of rares
Familienoberhauptvogel
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it's powerful only in decks that can ignore the pitiful stats.
Infinite Stars
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Hey, wow, what's this? Hour is doing something in Standard?
You don't say
(I think it's definitely above the doom and gloom of DGM)
You don't say
(I think it's definitely above the doom and gloom of DGM)
ThLunarian
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Well yeah, it won't be making waves in aggro decks, but the speed bump plus double loot plus late game inevitability should make it an all star in any other archetype
charlequin
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Both sets in this block seem to have benefitted pretty significantly from taking out the Marvelous Menace.
shrapnelmagnet
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Always Watching + Champion of Wits
I don't think that's a good idea, PS.
Infinite Stars
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It's almost like Kaladesh is this massive warping set in terms of power compared to the rest of Standard, but yeah , them Axing Marvel has helped a lot for Standard.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
not just aggro decks it's asking for a fairly particular environment to be an all star. There's a variety of part blue decks I'd be surprised to see it be played in.
deceAlways Watching + Champion of Wits
I don't think that's a good idea, PS.
Caved and ordered the cards I needed for Mardu Burn. I'm still not convinced if it's better than Naya, but I'm willing to give it a shot. List as of now:
The deck has had success lately and opts to cut Eidolon of the Great Revel for more cheap burn. This list has 32 one mana spells and 7 2 mana spells in the main deck. Compared to that, Naya Burn has 20 one mana spells and 20 two mana spells. That's a pretty significant curve difference.
The deck has had success lately and opts to cut Eidolon of the Great Revel for more cheap burn. This list has 32 one mana spells and 7 2 mana spells in the main deck. Compared to that, Naya Burn has 20 one mana spells and 20 two mana spells. That's a pretty significant curve difference.
blindrocket
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Yeah, really. I wouldn't mind at least one for Commander purposes.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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while watching the RDW hit them full swing 2 more times?
assuming RDW has board control and is not standing on it's last legs to get the last few points of damage in. If they can take down another 20 life, you're situation was hopeless anyway
TCG Player is fine for Standard cards. You should also go to the next GP/SCGOpen/big even in your area, dealers will come with HP/damaged cards that they wouldn't be willing to sell online, which will allow you to get great deals if condition isn't a factor. I got a HP Russian Sower of Temptation at an SCG Open 2 years ago for $5, and a heavily damaged (to the point where I asked 3 judges if it was a legal card, and only 1 said yes if it was double sleaved) Sword of Fire and Ice for $5.
For high-end cards (ie, dual lands, power), there are enough good fakes out there that I would only want to buy from a major vendor (ie, SCG, CFB, CK).
shrapnelmagnet
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This set is a ton of fun to draft. It's not ridiculously complex but most of the games feel fair and everyone has the tools to beat the opposition. I managed to win through a turn 4 sifter wurm with the Desert Cerodon and Ahn-Crop Crasher on my side. I still groan every time I see a God.
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