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Magic: the Gathering |OT8| Eldritch Moon - It's only a paper (and digital) moon
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SigmasonicX
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The thought process could also be that it's similar in power level to Thoughtseize, which is rare.
SigmasonicX
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The only reason I even care about Conspiracy is the possibility of some reprints of note.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I like the idea, its almost like they fixed BS variance!
I never really played Conspiracy 1 but it seems like there's way too much shit to keep track of.
Agreed. :/
It's clearly a market-based decision, considering Cabal Therapy was reprinted in EMA at uncommon. That being said, it would be a pretty bad uncommon for this set mechanically. Targeted discard, in general, isn't really great for multiplayer.
Although, there is some interesting design space there. I wouldn't be surprised to see a card something like this in the set: "Excluding you, each player, other than you gets to thoughtseize the player to his or her left."
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I don't know about this set, seems like complete chaos to draft. I just hope they don't reprint the fetches in here like someone speculated they would. They are better left for a normal set run.
Can I use this coming November 8th?
This is now a thing.
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Can I use this coming November 8th?
blindrocket
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Conspiracy is interesting and cool, but like Angry Grimace, I'm more interested in the reprints and also the cards that are pushed for other formats.
SigmasonicX
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Random thought, if a card like this was printed:
Meritocracy - U
Instant
You become the monarch.
Draw a card.
Could it see Legacy play? Since it draws you two cards on your turn, and more later on if your opponent doesn't deal combat damage to you.
Meritocracy - U
Instant
You become the monarch.
Draw a card.
Could it see Legacy play? Since it draws you two cards on your turn, and more later on if your opponent doesn't deal combat damage to you.
But can you be the Monarch in Legacy and does it do anything? Maybe it is just an empty effect.
blindrocket
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I would think so because it doesn't state drafting.
Unless they make rules that Monarch is only something specifically for drafting or they add Monarch cards to Legacy/Vintage ban lists.
I've seen that the Commander community is excited for it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Path to Exile.
Joe Molotov
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Dethrone cards are legal in Legacy, so the assumption is that Monarch will be too.
divisionbyzorro
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So the real question is "what is the cheapest card that says 'you become the Monarch.'"
Have they spoiled anything less than 4CMC that does this?
Have they spoiled anything less than 4CMC that does this?
Royal_Flush
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As someone who wasn't around for Conspiracy 1 I have to say this set looks incredibly interesting to draft. It's made for 4-players free-for-all, right?
"God's Beard!"
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Yeah you draft with 8 players then break up into two 4-man pods.
"God's Beard!"
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The question becomes whether or not being the monarch is 2 mana better than Baleful Strix. In legacy that seems doubtful.
They'd just kill you instead.
blindrocket
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It gets the little foil stamp on it.
It's funny/sad that over time the Chinese printers would be printing expensive uncommons from not too terribly old sets.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think the market exists for a completely non-tournament legal booster product in 2016.
The heavy majority of cards in Conspiracy are at least legal and even playable in EDH.
charlequin
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Anything that isn't a weird alternate card type or a non-black border works in eternal formats if it works everywhere. This isn't even a question, if the rules introduce the concept of "the monarch" then it works in all eternal formats.
This seems like a much stronger 5c enabler than Worldknit was. Just treat every jank card you get as if it's a basic land and then draft five color goodstuff with impunity.
What kind of setting that isn't Paliano would make sense to have something intangible to fight over? Off-the-wall guess: Ham is Return to New Phyrexia and it would represent the Praetors warring over who becomes the next Father/Mother of Machines.
Oh, I mean, the proximate cause of this shift is absolutely the secondary market value (although IoK is already almost back down to its pre-OGW price so it's not actually something that needs that much protecting) but I think it's better as a rare anyway.
They've been making reprint sets and actively targeting Legacy/Modern cards for reprints more often recently, so that innately implies more rarity shifts as well.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
whoops wrong thread lol
Infinite Stars
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For the first part, my off the wall guess is Ravnica 3, because Jace has left the plane unattended for months now as the Living Guildpact. He's going to come back to all hell broken loose, which could make the "Monarch" mechanic work as the Guilds are now in full out war.
As for the second part, hasn't MaRo basically decided Reprints of Legacy/Modern staples aren't going to happen in Standard very much because of the Thoughtsieze/Mutavault Combo in THS Standard? I mean, reprint sets work some, but when Wizards is selling $10 packs and only 30% of the Rares are actually modern playable, it doesn't really help out the market.
Giant Panda
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If it's after the block after Kaladesh, wouldn't that likely be a new plane?
blindrocket
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I used to kind of want another Un-set, just because I thought it was funny.
But now that I know more, they really shouldn't waste their time. The cards end up being useless other than collecting in a binder and referring back to for laughs.
But now that I know more, they really shouldn't waste their time. The cards end up being useless other than collecting in a binder and referring back to for laughs.
SigmasonicX
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I would be interested in an Unset 3. Plus, from what I've seen, there are a decent number of people with silver bordered cubes and Commander decks.
That said, I do think MaRo should get over his insistence that there should be no black bordered cards in Unsets. I think wacky alternate art versions of format staples would be popular.
That said, I do think MaRo should get over his insistence that there should be no black bordered cards in Unsets. I think wacky alternate art versions of format staples would be popular.
blindrocket
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Maybe some "Jester" cards in Conspiracy, would fit the theme of a royal court, I suppose.
Joe Molotov
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The next Un-set will have Modern/Eternal reprints only at Mythic. It'll be a great joke, we'll all laugh.
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