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Magic: the Gathering |OT8| Eldritch Moon - It's only a paper (and digital) moon
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GP Indianapolis (Modern) is being streamed https://www.twitch.tv/channelfireball
That dude's full foil japanese abzan deck is effing gorgeous.
Yeah, they don't have great chemistry, Marshall is much more talkative with Gaby or LSV.
Yeah, they don't have great chemistry, Marshall is much more talkative with Gaby or LSV.
charlequin
Banned
The only reason to print pain lands is to have them Standard legal.
Yeah, every set needs color fixing, and there are only so many possibilities. The painlands are a more elegant design than some of the more recent attempts.
Wow, how is trample not on there?? It didn't really matter, only did a few points of trample damage anyway.
Slept on it and less mad but it definitely was a painful two hour game.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
If they make new painlands every EDH deck is gonna start playing TKS.
I wonder if Kamikaze would still be a problem for them.
Kamikazoo has a nice ring to it lol
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
This is the Narset superfriends first draft.
I was just thinking about a freezing PW. The +1 could be templated as
1UU
Planeswalker -
+1:"Tap target untapped creature. That creature doesn't untap until a player activates an ability of [CARDNAME]."
-X:"Take control of target creature with converted manacost X."
-5:"Tap all creatures target player controls. Draw a card."
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I was just thinking about a freezing PW. The +1 could be templated as
1UU
Planeswalker -
+1:"Tap target untapped creature. That creature doesn't untap until a player activates an ability of [CARDNAME]."
-X:"Take control of target creature with converted manacost X."
-5:"Tap all creatures target player controls. Draw a card."
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blindrocket
Member
Dark Boros was so dumb for them to use instead IMO
It means whoever was reading the decklists doesn't know Modern.
Giant Panda
Member
Im not watching the stream but I assume you're talking about Infect. It's sad that they are closing off the design space of good pump spells because of a stupid mechanic that they never should have printed.
It's also in Suicide Zoo. The issue is Delve, as usual.
I'm not watching the stream, did someone get blown out by the card again?
Nah, Suicide Zoo was up on stream and lost. Just seems like the format's warping around the card (and dredge) right now in probably not-very-healthy ways.
Infinite Stars
Member
Become Immense was mentioned by P. Sully last week as a ban target because of how strong/warping it is. Getting rid of it also means that the likely hood of Infect/Death's Shadow Turn 2ing you is greatly decreased, right?
Correct. You can compare it to Blazing Shoal in a lot of ways.
blindrocket
Member
And perhaps even Bolt. So many times I see an Abzan player get their opponent down to 2 or 3 life and think if they only had a bolt it would be game over.
I've finished many games with Bolt or Kolaghan's Command.
"God's Beard!"
Member
You definitely need a ton more ramp. I'd put in a couple more haste effects like Fervor and Hammer of Purphoros, too. With all those planeswalkers you could probably go with some time walk effects. Maybe all of them.
Turn 2-4 Narset into two or three planeswalkers is the dream.
"God's Beard!"
Member
I'm not taking Modern seriously again until Cabal Therapy gets printed in.
You hear me, Wizards? I'm boycotting your dead format!
You hear me, Wizards? I'm boycotting your dead format!
Joe Molotov
Member
Too bad they all rotate when Kaladesh releases.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
funny that the Blue and Black card out of the cycle get played the least.
Such a great cycle though, they are all really good (even if one of them is borderline broken)
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The spiky one looks terribad. The left one is amazing and the OG one is great also.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Nah it looks like the white mana symbol.
Are you kidding? Greatsword dude
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
DisagreeStill looks awful though
He looks like he's modelling more than engaging combat.
that's not even the worst it resurrects lands in combat. *Warcry* *swords clashing* *mountain rising in the background*
charlequin
Banned
This lets you tap the creature in response to counter the lockdown effect.
Spikey McSpikerson looks like a sack of butts compared to the other two.
Uhhhh glinty eyes duder.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Lantern is wong factor of MTG.
Scroll Rack
Sensei's Top
Brainstorm
Mind's Dilation
Cryptic Command
Sphere of Safety
Mystical Tutor
Enlightened Tutor
Monastery Mentor
I don't think your deck particularly benefits from any of these effects. Especially cryptic which is a pretty miserable flip off Narset.
My personal recommendations would be
Waves of Aggression
Time Stretch
Time Warp
Walk the Aeons
Wayfarer's Bauble
Mind Stone
Coldsteel Heart
Generator Servant
Hammer of Purphoros
This is just me, but I would even consider cutting the mutavault for a Crystal Vein. Getting out Narset early really is that important. It's not really whether or not it's cutthroat, I just think it's what the deck is asking for once you start sticking Narset and all those planeswalkers in. Basically anything you could be doing is gonna be worse than dumping all the planeswalkers and activating them a bunch of times.
If you don't want to annoy people you could put stuff like The Chain Veil in there instead to keep it fun without going off theme. Frankly, the first time you dump three planeswalkers on turn five people are going to assume you're cutthroat anyway.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I always thought it was funny using it to get Bazaar of Baghdad out of the graveyard.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
+1:"Tap target creature not affected by this ability. It doesn't untap until a player activates an ability of CARDNAME."
Does this templating work? I'd like it to be a freeze effect but I also don't want the PW to be able to grow by continuously locking the same creature down. Sounds a bit too cumbersome and unintuitive.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";215191569]Scroll Rack
Sensei's Top
Brainstorm
Mind's Dilation
Cryptic Command
Sphere of Safety
Mystical Tutor
Enlightened Tutor
Monastery Mentor
I don't think your deck particularly benefits from any of these effects. Especially cryptic which is a pretty miserable flip off Narset.
My personal recommendations would be
Waves of Aggression
Time Stretch
Time Warp
Walk the Aeons
Wayfarer's Bauble
Mind Stone
Coldsteel Heart
Generator Servant
Hammer of Purphoros
This is just me, but I would even consider cutting the mutavault for a Crystal Vein. Getting out Narset early really is that important. It's not really whether or not it's cutthroat, I just think it's what the deck is asking for once you start sticking Narset and all those planeswalkers in. Basically anything you could be doing is gonna be worse than dumping all the planeswalkers and activating them a bunch of times.
If you don't want to annoy people you could put stuff like The Chain Veil in there instead to keep it fun without going off theme.[/QUOTE]
Hmm I'll have to think about it, not using SDT is a hard ask but you might be right same with Scroll Rack while the synergy is obvious. From what I've tried I rarely felt cards stranded in my hand. In regards to extra turns and combat phases I'm going to hamstring myself though.
Brago does about the same as what chain veil does if not better. I'm gonna try it with more ramp though I think talisman of domination would be above some of the options and there's another equipment that gives haste for 1 and 1.
Why would you cut Sphere, Mystical and Enlightened tutor? 2 of those combo amazingly with Narset and Sphere protects the PWs contrary to Ghostly Prison and Propaganda. Mystical in response to the trigger search up cataclysm for instance.
I'm gonna try cutting the SDT and Scroll Rack as well as the Brainstorm and Cryptic for now. Also gonna replace a land with gemstone caverns, probably the beacon.Thanks for the help. Should I try find some room for Keranos and/or Heliod?
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