The vast majority of the pro tour is RPTQ winners or silver/gold members. There's only like 30 dudes in Plat to begin with.Many of you guys have brought up the point that they never should have made Magic pros a thing in the first place, and the new payout system reflects that, but the question is, what incentive is there to actually attend a Pro Tour now? Only a few people will win a decent amount of money (and it's still not much), but to fly out to the various places they are being held and pay for hotels and such, you have to invest a lot of money. My understanding is that in the past, you had a reasonable expectation of coming out even or at least not losing too much, but now you're guaranteed to lose a lot of money unless you reach top rankings.
Should we expect a majority of players at a Pro Tour to be locals now?
EDIT: Well, I guess that doesn't apply now, but I suppose I'll still ask if that's what was going to happen.
My understanding is that in qualifying for the pro tour, Wizards pays your hotel and airfare for the actual event. The issue, as far as I know, is that qualifying for platinum means traveling to grind GPs, which isn't covered by Wizards. The appearance fee helps to retroactively cover that.Many of you guys have brought up the point that they never should have made Magic pros a thing in the first place, and the new payout system reflects that, but the question is, what incentive is there to actually attend a Pro Tour now? Only a few people will win a decent amount of money (and it's still not much), but to fly out to the various places they are being held and pay for hotels and such, you have to invest a lot of money. My understanding is that in the past, you had a reasonable expectation of coming out even or at least not losing too much, but now you're guaranteed to lose a lot of money unless you reach top rankings.
Should we expect a majority of players at a Pro Tour to be locals now?
EDIT: Well, I guess that doesn't apply now, but I suppose I'll still ask if that's what was going to happen.
They clearly are. That's how they killed the Modern pro tour as wellIf they want to change it for the 2017-18 season or whatever with tons of warning that is fine.
My understanding is that in qualifying for the pro tour, Wizards pays your hotel and airfare for the actual event. The issue, as far as I know, is that qualifying for platinum means traveling to grind GPs, which isn't covered by Wizards. The appearance fee helps to retroactively cover that.
I mean, you play and enjoy Magic with your pals. It's a social game. Do high school sports teams pay you anything to attend tournaments? No, you go to them because you enjoy it and for some people they want to be playing at a high level.Many of you guys have brought up the point that they never should have made Magic pros a thing in the first place, and the new payout system reflects that, but the question is, what incentive is there to actually attend a Pro Tour now? Only a few people will win a decent amount of money (and it's still not much), but to fly out to the various places they are being held and pay for hotels and such, you have to invest a lot of money. My understanding is that in the past, you had a reasonable expectation of coming out even or at least not losing too much, but now you're guaranteed to lose a lot of money unless you reach top rankings.
Should we expect a majority of players at a Pro Tour to be locals now?
EDIT: Well, I guess that doesn't apply now, but I suppose I'll still ask if that's what was going to happen.
That wasn't where the Platinum benefits were being moved.Just noticed that they are keeping the added 100K in the prize pool, which is pretty nice
Those podcasts will be recorded and this change back won't be discussed, so there'll be lots of angry stuff lol
Which wouldn't have really worked in court since WotC hold the reservation of rights, the right to change or revoke the benefits at any time. The backlash was enough to revoke some of the changes.Good that they backed down on the pro player fuckery (at least for the remaining of this season), the previous change was too fucked up to work out and I'm sure they would have gotten sued by a sizeable number of pros.
Jace is waiting for blue control to be good again.
blue might be the worst colour right now.
Which wouldn't have really worked in court since WotC hold the reservation of rights, the right to change or revoke the benefits at any time. The backlash was enough to revoke some of the changes.
In other non-important news, I love Pieces of the Puzzle so damn much. Sometimes you whiff and mill Jace, but sometimes you chain Piece into Piece into Piece, which is so much value, especially with Geistblast and Stitchwing Skaab in the mix. You really only need one Rise of the Tides to make the strategy work (provides it's not the last card in your deck.) Good times.
Always found it weird there aren't more actual pro player events, everything but the PT and world championship (?) is open for anyone.
I definitely think this was a thing to put out as quickly as possible so they could walk it back and gain "amenity" from magic fans.
Not on purpose mind you, but that they knew it was coming down from Hasbro, and by putting it out during the Pro Tour it gains the widest visibility as well as allowing WOTC to show Hasbro "hey they fucking care about their fans man".
Aaaaaand flooded. :lol
Deck doesn't work well when you draw zero Pieces. Or Jace for that matter. Only casted him once in five games. ;-;
They thought that announcing a 500k prize pool for worlds was something that people are really going to likeIt being aired during the Pro Tour was the biggest red flag for me. Why announce something this heinous during the celebration of the game and release of a new set?
For dat pushback.
It's MUCH easier to convince higherups that your cutbacks are shit when you have ground-level consumer outrage. To say nothing of the Pros that would make the game feel deserted over time.
The problem with modern as a PT format is that the majority of decks are bullshit.Modern PT being dead = good thing.
Make worlds Modern central.
The problem with modern as a PT format is that the majority of decks are bullshit.
And I love Modern. There are a lot of bullshit decks though. The problem is that way too many games are dumb nonsense due to the fact that the sideboard isn't big enough to deal with weird decks that attack from a funky angle.
This is what the format is supposed to look like. (They're being vindicated for the Twin ban now)It was bad before eldrazi but Modern seems like the lawless wild west right now if you look at tournament results. No rhyme or reason for the 15 decks that all seem to be having the exact same results.
This is what the format is supposed to look like. (They're being vindicated for the Twin ban now)
They thought that announcing a 500k prize pool for worlds was something that people are really going to like
Which is why I want a continued (though maybe not frequent) spotlight on it. Bring it into the open. Let it shine. Let it breathe.
This is what the format is supposed to look like. (They're being vindicated for the Twin ban now)
This is what the format is supposed to look like. (They're being vindicated for the Twin ban now)
Season's Past deck mirror must be a nightmare.
Modern isn't completely overrun by combo decks now that Twin is gone? But I thought it was the only thing holding them at bay.
Worse than the Bant mirror?
How do you deck someone with Season's PastIn Season's Past mirror decking is a viable win condition. Bant Mirrors are just creature clusterfucks (that are also a nightmare).