[QUOTE="God's Beard!";203973183]It's still notable. Just like the times where your only ability is discard and your opponent had 0 cards, they may also have 6 cards in hard, 2 or more of which are irrelevant in the matchup.
It's especially worth noting because it's actually an anti-synergy ability to put in your deck. When you design a control deck with the intention of making a certain number of your opponent's cards dead, you have to expect to hit those dead cards if you're playing Mind Rot in your maindeck. It's not unlucky, it's an actively poor strategy. He's actually undoing the inherent card advantage of his archetype.
Aggro decks generate card advantage by ending a game with more mana efficient cards before their opponents can empty their hands. Control decks generate card advantage by making a certain percentage of their opponent's cards irrelevant. You should play effects that support the idea for the archetype you choose.[/QUOTE]
I know it's notable, I was just saying that with the information to the player that could have been the beat move to make since it does give him card advantage. It sounded like that was what you were saying he was not evaluating and the one time in your examples he made the play that gave him card advantage you still took it away from him.
There are all sorts of time that non-targeted discard sucks. That is why I almost never use those effects unless I'm playing a Pox deck or a deck that that can take advantage of both players discarding and the effect is like Lili's discard. Late game the effect tends to be worse since it is easy to just hold onto lands and discard those. Early game it can do damage but they are usually cost prohibitive.
Looking through your post I didn't see that he was playing straight control, you said creatureless deck and I still went with 'creatureless board' since control decks still usually have a finisher in them. I also haven't played standard since RtR rotated so really have no idea what is popular right now. I do totally agree that playing control and having late discard is anti-synergy and there are probably better cards he could play for synergy. But at the end of the day i still would say that might have been one of his better plays to make there, not knowing what he has in hand and with him not having perfect information.
It's especially worth noting because it's actually an anti-synergy ability to put in your deck. When you design a control deck with the intention of making a certain number of your opponent's cards dead, you have to expect to hit those dead cards if you're playing Mind Rot in your maindeck. It's not unlucky, it's an actively poor strategy. He's actually undoing the inherent card advantage of his archetype.
Aggro decks generate card advantage by ending a game with more mana efficient cards before their opponents can empty their hands. Control decks generate card advantage by making a certain percentage of their opponent's cards irrelevant. You should play effects that support the idea for the archetype you choose.[/QUOTE]
I know it's notable, I was just saying that with the information to the player that could have been the beat move to make since it does give him card advantage. It sounded like that was what you were saying he was not evaluating and the one time in your examples he made the play that gave him card advantage you still took it away from him.
There are all sorts of time that non-targeted discard sucks. That is why I almost never use those effects unless I'm playing a Pox deck or a deck that that can take advantage of both players discarding and the effect is like Lili's discard. Late game the effect tends to be worse since it is easy to just hold onto lands and discard those. Early game it can do damage but they are usually cost prohibitive.
Looking through your post I didn't see that he was playing straight control, you said creatureless deck and I still went with 'creatureless board' since control decks still usually have a finisher in them. I also haven't played standard since RtR rotated so really have no idea what is popular right now. I do totally agree that playing control and having late discard is anti-synergy and there are probably better cards he could play for synergy. But at the end of the day i still would say that might have been one of his better plays to make there, not knowing what he has in hand and with him not having perfect information.