DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
Wondering if I should preorder a box of these right now at $260 or wait and see if my LGS will give me a better deal. Hmmm...
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Magic: the Gathering - Shadows over Innistrad |OT| Blue's Clues
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It sucks, but it makes sense to not have it here. It should have been in MMA 1, then it should have been in 2. Hell, they should have had the balls to keep it in the core set instead of pulling it at the last minute. Watch them pull that shit again next year in MMA 3. The only saving grace is that it isn't hugely played, mostly just a one-of sideboard card.
Other than having two wraths in limited, not necessarily.
GregLombardi
Member
Especially since...if it is reprinted, I bet Damnation is a mythic.
And in the same color. Not likely but possible.
I cracked a Damnation online. Was surpised it wasn't even enough to cover the cost of the draft. Control really is dead in Modern.
Edit: also that sneak attack art is hot garbage. gamble is alright.
SigmasonicX
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Glad to see that people are mostly enjoying the spoilers so far. I can't say I'm particularly interested in spoilers of reprint sets, but it's nice to see these older cards.
Some pretty good spoilers, but I hope they don't show the only good stuff the first day and after that nothing. Still hoping for Snapcaster at rare, I've been holding off for now as I'm hoping to pick up copies with a hologram. Same reason why I might have to buy a big Jace now. Magic has become so expensive, ugh 
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Commander is about to get a whole lot more cancerous.
SigmasonicX
Member
I love how they once thought 3 life loss sometimes was a good downside for that card.
Oh damn. I hadn't even considered Mana Crypt, but that's fucking awesome.
Edit: jeez, foil mana crypt is going to be fucking expensive.
GregLombardi
Member
yes please ill take 4 mana crypt
except I won't because mythic rares in an underprinted set will probably just go up in value, so ill be relegated to opening them which will perhaps happen once
except I won't because mythic rares in an underprinted set will probably just go up in value, so ill be relegated to opening them which will perhaps happen once
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
Nice, saw Mana Crypt and that tipped me over the edge. Managed to snag a box for $240, which I assume is MSRP. Hopefully this means I can afford to put a Crypt in every one of my EDH decks, but maybe that's wishful thinking!
charlequin
Banned
When they first released this card you could actually tap it early enough in the turn that the drawback didn't trigger because tapped artifacts turned off, lol.
GregLombardi
Member
The game has changed a lot since those days. I miss damage on the stack too.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
damage on the stack was awful, one of the best changes to magic.
charlequin
Banned
Damage on the stack was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
GregLombardi
Member
I never said it was good for the game.
It just made it so ridiculous that I miss it. And believe me, it destroyed me many times in the earliest drafts I ever played. For example, my most frustrating draft moment that involved the stack when I was a youngling was against this card:
Reminds me of how kids who grew up on 2003->2010 WWE post-Brand Split often have horrible taste. They wish for all these awful things that weakened the product because they're the only status quo they can remember.
Welp.
You will get Chrome Mox and you will like it!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I sincerely doubt it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The worst part about modern is that almost ever Tier 2 deck is entirely built around rarely assembling an uninteractable board state that's mostly just cute and not necessarily good.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Your heart says yes, your wallet should be laughing
A Serious Man
Member
I'll draft EMA a few times and that's about it. I ain't about that life.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I am. I am totally about this life. MMA, VMA and now it's looking like EMA is directly marketed to my face.
This is firmly where I sit. I will be buying Mana Crypts as singles and being happy I didn't buy full boxes.
Edit 2: Nope, right place.
Okay, me and few buddies are interested in getting back into Magic again after not playing for years (like, 15 years).
So we picked up a few random lots on Ebay, but honestly we weren't even sure it was the best spot to start. Where should we pick up some cards, especially if we get semi-serious again?
And what website for current rules? I can't even imagine how much this shit has changed since I last played... Which I believe was around 4th edition.
Okay, me and few buddies are interested in getting back into Magic again after not playing for years (like, 15 years).
So we picked up a few random lots on Ebay, but honestly we weren't even sure it was the best spot to start. Where should we pick up some cards, especially if we get semi-serious again?
And what website for current rules? I can't even imagine how much this shit has changed since I last played... Which I believe was around 4th edition.
SigmasonicX
Member
There's a getting started section in the OP. If you want to get cards and build semi-serious decks, then it's best to just buy cards individually from an online store or a local gaming store.
As for rules, if you stopped playing before Sixth Edition, then you missed a bunch of stuff they added then rolled back. But I suppose the big things are:
* Artifacts aren't divided into mono, poly, and continuous. They now explicitly say if you have to tap it to use its ability, etc.
* Artifacts don't "turn off" when they are tapped.
* Mana burn doesn't exist anymore. Unspent mana just goes away.
* No more interrupts. They are all instants now.
* Spells are cast using the stack. When you cast a spell or use an ability, it is put onto the stack, and an opponent has a chance to respond to it with an instant or ability, which is put on top of the stack. Since the opponent's response is on top of the stack, it resolved first, then your original spell or ability.
* There are some term changes. "In play" is now the battlefield. "Removed from the game" is now the exile zone. Spells are cast, abilities are activated.
* There's a new card type, Planeswalker.
Besides that, you could probably just rely on your intuition and doing what the cards say. The core of the game is basically the same.
If 4th edition is actually when you learned to play, it will probably be easier for you to get caught up than if you learned 6th edition rules (1998-2010). The main changes are:
-The Stack: Every game action, apart from playing a land or generating mana, goes on a "stack", and can be responded to by any player with an ability that can be played at instant speed on a card (generally, a card will say if it CAN'T be played as an instant), or an instant. The stack resolves in a "Last in, first out order", and can be added to as individual parts resolve.
example: I cast a spell that deals 3 damage to your 2/2 creature, and put it on the stack. You respond by playing a card that lets you draw 2 cards. I do not add anything to the stack, so your card draw spell resolves. You draw your 2 cards, and you drew an instant that prevents all damage, and play that to the stack. I respond with a spell that counters your spell. The counterspell on top of the stack resolves, countering the card your prevention spell that is below it. Finally, after all this, the damage spell I put on the stack earlier finally resolves, and kills your creature.
There have been some slight terminology changes- "Put onto the battlefield" is the new term for "comes into play", "Exile" is the term for "Remove from Game", and Mana Burn no longer exists.
You always want to buy newer stuff instead of older lots when it comes to Magic. I would have each player buy a $20 deckbuilders toolkit, which comes with a bunch of lands and common/uncommons from recent sets, and a couple of boosters so you can build decks.
Joe Molotov
Member
RIP using Mogg Fanatic to trade with x/2 creatures. :'(
Uninspiring prediction #2: We'll see Forked Bolt at common. It was originally an uncommon, but got knocked down to common in the Zendikar vs. Eldrazi duel deck. They likely already knew it was getting reprinted as a common in an upcoming set before the duel deck was finalized.
If that's not an option, the video game, Magic Duels, is free on PC and iOS ,and a good place to start. Otherwise, youtube is probably your best bet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GadqHggATe8&list=PLE87B5552E725020D
As someone who played before damage on the stack was a thing and then came back after it was gone, it always sounds ass-backwards to me.
If you have a good local gaming shop that does Magic, head there. Wizards gives out free sample decks for people to learn (or relearn in your case) the game and the employees can give you the rundown.
If that's not an option, the video game, Magic Duels, is free on PC and iOS ,and a good place to start. Otherwise, youtube is probably your best bet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GadqHggATe8&list=PLE87B5552E725020D
Vangu Vegro
Member
There's exactly one place for damage, and that's on the stack. Anywhere else is completely and utterly unacceptable. Anyone who disagrees shoud not be allowed in the same universe as the game of Magic the Gathering.
keeblerdrow
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Please source your quote.
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