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Magic: the Gathering - Shadows over Innistrad |OT| Blue's Clues

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Having not seen any of this for myself I feel somewhat confident that their reaction is probably not proportional to what Sheldon actually said. That being said, I see no good reason to shit on people for how they choose to play EDH. You can't exactly walk into a church and shout "Jesus sucks!" and not expect some pushback.

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That's it, people got all up in their jiffy about.
 

Maledict

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I guess I don't have a problem with a little bit of camp in a game where wizards summon monsters and fight each other. It's fantasy. There's room for it.

Bolas' motivations are currently too shrouded to know what his intentions are, and whether he's evil or not is a matter of interpretation. By that logic it's hard to draw a line on what he is, but the writing sure positions him away from being a good guy, and Grixis is typically not a heroic or neutral color alignment in modern Magic storytelling.

I think 6-mana Sorin is a good step toward that apex-rendition style card you reference. But I think it's OK if he's a step below Karn and those around 7-mana. That said, I think he bleeds upward to their level in terms of power level, while Chandra at 6-mana tends to bleed downward in power level for me.

Um, Bolas is absolutely, most assuredly evil. Wizards have been really clear on that. He killed other Elder Dragons, he was prepared to blow up an entire plane to regain his spark, he's manipulated people and ruined lives across centuries to get his way - he's the living embodiment of a camp, moustache twirling villain who cackles "all according to the plan" when he's defeated.

There's no mystery or grey about him - he's pure evil through and through. Unfortunately, in a silly way which I presume is why they haven't really used him for some time.
 

Daedardus

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From the guy that spoiled EM and other things: there's a new competitive format on the way, to be announced this week.

If this really is real, what could it be?
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I bought a box two weeks ago for slighty lower than mspr. I'm very glad because I fucking love cracking boosters.

My buddy got a box also and we're just gonna play goddamn sealed with it. I can't justify just opening this shit and doing nothing with it.
 
From the guy that spoiled EM and other things: there's a new competitive format on the way, to be announced this week.

If this really is real, what could it be?

The only things that make sense would be "Legacy without the Reserved List" or some casual format that Wizards is directly in charge of (unlike Commander), and neither seem too likely. I just can't see Legacy and RL-less Legacy coexisting, and I don't think people would just abandon Legacy.
 

OnPoint

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Um, Bolas is absolutely, most assuredly evil. Wizards have been really clear on that. He killed other Elder Dragons, he was prepared to blow up an entire plane to regain his spark, he's manipulated people and ruined lives across centuries to get his way - he's the living embodiment of a camp, moustache twirling villain who cackles "all according to the plan" when he's defeated.

There's no mystery or grey about him - he's pure evil through and through. Unfortunately, in a silly way which I presume is why they haven't really used him for some time.

We agree. In fact I went on to say he was flat out evil several posts later.
 
Which part? r/cEDH might finally bite the bullet and try and make their own banlist. Oh and some people think it's better left in WoTC's hands.

The part where reddit people are unhappy. Developing a separate competitive-oriented banlist is exactly what people should be doing instead of whining about it, and the people who think WotC would do a "better" job managing the Commander banlist than the RC are dumbasses.

I mean, Sheldon is a terrible influence on the format, so I can understand their frustration.

Lol what.

I thought they already had the French banlist anyway?

Yeah I'm honestly not sure what's supposed to be wrong with the French list for Duel Commander, and competitive multiplayer commander is a bad idea.

If this really is real, what could it be?

Best bet would be something like Eternal, the format where the Reserved List is banned. The only other real candidates would be things filling the old slots of Block Constructed and Extended, both of which I think we've quite conclusively proved we don't need or want.

The only things that make sense would be "Legacy without the Reserved List" or some casual format that Wizards is directly in charge of (unlike Commander), and neither seem too likely. I just can't see Legacy and RL-less Legacy coexisting, and I don't think people would just abandon Legacy.

People are already abandoning Legacy!
 

Lucario

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From the guy that spoiled EM and other things: there's a new competitive format on the way, to be announced this week.

If this really is real, what could it be?

WoTC already stressed that "legacy minus reserve list" isn't happening, so this is pretty interesting if true.

Would be nice to see a second constructed format for the pro tour, but I have no idea how they'd accomplish that without hurting Modern or killing Legacy.
 

Lucario

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Incredibly unlikely wishlist:

Build-your-own Standard
Paper Pauper
Freeform variants of current formats (no ban list, no restricted list)
Reverse modern (only old-bordered cards)
Ante league


What it probably is:

Some stupid extended variant, like 'supermodern: only cards with the newest border are legal'.
Legacy, but with no reserve list cards and a ton of preliminary bans to try and differentiate the formats. Legacy would die within a month.
Some variant of duel commander/tiny leaders
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's Legacy without Reserved List, I imagine.

I would accept Canadian Highlander as a legit format (lol).
 

Daedardus

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If they want to announce it now when EM is in spoiler week, I feel it has some connection to Eternal formats, or at the very least non-rotating. No actual idea on what it could be though.
 

Ashodin

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CHL uses all the cards from Eternal Masters, so why not make it a real format? Just rename it to something neat, like Singleton
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The problem with CHL is that its frequently optimal to play Mox Sapphire.

You can't just run CHL as-is.
 
So, just to be sure, for Call the Skybreaker, as long as one can pony up the mana and land cards to do so, Call the Skybreaker can be casted as often as one likes yes? It's not like flashback which causes the card to be exiled.
 

Santiako

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So, just to be sure, for Call the Skybreaker, as long as one can pony up the mana and land cards to do so, Call the Skybreaker can be casted as often as you like yes? It's not like flashback which causes the card to be exiled.

Yes. It's absurdly good in limited and EDH.
 
WoTC already stressed that "legacy minus reserve list" isn't happening, so this is pretty interesting if true.

Would be nice to see a second constructed format for the pro tour, but I have no idea how they'd accomplish that without hurting Modern or killing Legacy.

They stressed that Overextended wasn't happening either, then we got Modern.

I don't think there's much value in a format like this, but if it were to exist, it wouldn't be built to get around killing Legacy, it would go out of its way to kill Legacy.

It's Canadian Highlander

A format like CHL does almost exactly the opposite of what WotC's goals for a format would be on every single point, lol.
 
Just anecdotal reports, but I've called around the southern new england area and am hearing from various retailers that Wizards is cutting supply of Eternal Masters and some are withdrawing from taking preorders so they have supply for drafts and such.

Anyone who thinks they are getting their hands on these reprints easily may want to think twice about current prices on ebay.
 
I might have to convince my brother to go splitsy on a box with me, if only because this set looks amazing. He'd get his finance pick of cards to resell and I'd hopefully get the stuff I'm craving.
 

Daedardus

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The guy said that it would cause the price of shocks to skyrocket. If that is the case, I'm really packing things up because I'm getting sick of prices only going up instead of stabilising on an acceptable level for both collectors and players. A Modern Jund deck is now over $2k if you want it to be playable, since many of the big money cards are actually needed for the deck.

That said, in the thread, the guy looks to be trolling hard, so maybe it's some sort of account suicide? I'm not yet fully convinced this rumour will turn out to be true.
 
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