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[Ashodin]

I'm laughing at the Silvestri article because at the end he suggests Mardu

Two colors are about all you gonna get in this format after rotation breh

Depends on the deck. In builds centered around Ormendahl, getting him bounced or exiled is pretty damn hard to come back from. However he's a 2x in my BW token/control deck and turning him sideways even once usually seals the game, an 18 point life swing is no joke.

In my deck, he usually comes out and Odric makes the whole team Haste/Indestructible/Lifelink/Flying

 

[Angry Grimace]

Despite having said that. I think Abbey is the real deal. There's virtually no cost to put it in a deck. If they did bounce it, then what? You have to replay a land?

You lose 5 guys and I don't mean a hamburger

I've always thought silvestri was a clueless hack, so you might want to take that into consideration when you listen to me talk about him. Dude just says random shit fucking constantly and gets a bunch of reddit dudes to take it completely seriously. Like, Westvale Abbey is an interesting, cool card, but claiming its the best card you can either play a Westvale deck or a deck that can answer Westvale is just vague as fuck.

 

[traveler]

Not to pile on....

From this:

Silimgar steals pws for great value and ojutai isn't even that great when you hit?

..uhh, what? I mean, I dunno about everyone else, but I always felt like hitting with Ojutai felt pretty darn good.

 

[Ashodin]

Coco is basically only useful in GW Humans now, the card got tanked.

 

[traveler]

Bant coco is still testing pretty well for me. I literally just took the old lists and replaced the mana with weaker lands and it still beats up on most of these brews I see 50 - 60% of the time. Coco is definitely aging better than Jace.

 

[Ashodin]

Bant coco is still testing pretty well for me. I literally just took the old lists and replaced the mana with weaker lands and it still beats up on most of these brews I see 50 - 60% of the time. Coco is definitely aging better than Jace.

You on Cockatrice? I'd like to test

 

[A Serious Man]

Kind of interested in trying to make Jund CoCo work but I haven't had the time.

 

[traveler]

You on Cockatrice? I'd like to test

Yup. Busy tonight, but maybe tomorrow? Depends on how work goes.

 

[Ashodin]

Yup. Busy tonight, but maybe tomorrow? Depends on how work goes.

Sure thing. Same bat time?

On tweaking my deck note - I think Hanweir Militia Captain can be great, but I think 3x in the deck is a little too many two drops, and I need to curve out well. So I took one out to bump up Iroas' Champion. Being one of the only cards that give double strike, I wanted to have it out.

I may want to run that instant that gives +1/+1 and double strike, but it's three mana.

 

[Remembrance]

Why does Bloomberg have a photo essay on a Magic GP?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/photo...ive-magic-the-gathering-grand-prix-tournament

That quote at the end from the parents planning to use #mtgfinance to pay for their kid's college. By buying boxes.

 

[A Serious Man]

GW and even UW Humans are both real decks, Thalia's Lieutenant might not be the worst preorder at $2.50.

 

[kirblar]

I am so glad people are (finally) coming around to SSG being busted.

 

[Santiako]

When is the next B&R announcement? Monday?

 

[kirblar]

When is the next B&R announcement? Monday?

Yup. They didn't leak it on the beta this time.

 

[Santiako]

Yup. They didn't leak it on the beta this time.

Cool, I'm really curious how they nerf Eldrazi. Both Temple and Eye, just one of them, one of them and a creature, or whatever, and if they ban/unban anything else.

 

[kirblar]

You do Eye now and do Temple later if things are still stupid.

 

[MjFrancis]

Eye of Ugin and possibly Simian Spirit Guide both banned Monday. I predict both though admit the former will likely be the only ban. No unbans.

The one good thing Eldrazi Winter and it's impending doom does for me is that I've been able to pick up Reality Smashers and Though-Knot Seers for the next Standard at pretty decent prices. Going to go Bc or B/Wc Midrange, seems decent enough.

 

[kirblar]

Preorder prices for the DFCs in Shadows are completely ridiculous.

 

[Infinite Stars]

I'm of the mindset that you ban Temple, not Eye. Eye is a problem, but it's legendary and doesn't tap for any mana.

Good to see SSG get the boot though, card is used solely to make unfair strategies go off faster.

 

[Ringo]

Have they already posted the prerelease cards? I can't seem to find them on the "Mothership"...

 

[phazedplasma]

Is anyone midnight prereleasing SOI tomorrow? I feel like im too old for that shit

 

[kirblar]

I'm of the mindset that you ban Temple, not Eye. Eye is a problem, but it's legendary and doesn't tap for any mana.

Good to see SSG get the boot though, card is used solely to make unfair strategies go off faster.

Eye creates the idiotic multi-mimic starts.

 

[WanderingWind]

I'm not midnighting, but I am taking a train an hour and a half into another city, in a country where I can't speak the language, to prerelease the return of the best set in Magic's history. Please, SoI. Please don't suck.

 

[y2dvd]

Is anyone midnight prereleasing SOI tomorrow? I feel like im too old for that shit

Imma wait for the weekend. I don't have it in me anymore to do midnight. :l

 

[ultron87]

Is anyone midnight prereleasing SOI tomorrow? I feel like im too old for that shit

I'm midnighting because I want to do two Prereleases and it is honestly easier to have X hours after midnight free than getting two chunks free during the afternoon. Also 4 AM sleepy Magic is fun.

 

[Angry Grimace]

IDK where I'm going with this other than Ormendahl is hilarious.

Deck: UW Stuff

//Lands
2 Evolving Wilds
4 Island
7 Plains
4 Port Town
4 Prairie Stream
3 Westvale Abbey

//Spells
3 Declaration in Stone
1 Eerie Interlude
4 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
4 Secure the Wastes
1 Silkwrap

//Creatures
2 Archangel Avacyn
4 Consul's Lieutenant
3 Dragonlord Ojutai
2 Hidden Dragonslayer
4 Knight of the White Orchid
4 Reflector Mage
4 Thalia's Lieutenant

//Sideboard
2 Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
3 Always Watching
2 Negate
3 Dispel
1 Declaration in Stone
1 Descend Upon the Sinful
1 Silkwrap
2 Stasis Snare

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[phazedplasma]

I'm midnighting because I want to do two Prereleases and it is honestly easier to have X hours after midnight free than getting two chunks free during the afternoon. Also 4 AM sleepy Magic is fun.

Yeah i want to do 2. I'm already signed up for 10:30am on saturday. That would give me 5 hours of sleep if i did midnight :\

 

[bigkrev]

Is anyone midnight prereleasing SOI tomorrow? I feel like im too old for that shit

Saturday. I'm too old for Midnight, and my store insists on a 5 round Midnight event (3 should be the maximum for Midnight)

 

[Angry Grimace]

Preorder prices for the DFCs in Shadows are completely ridiculous.

Westvale Abbey is preordering for 20 dollars. Twenty US dollars. And one guy selling for 10 bucks on TCG player lol

 

[Firemind]

I keep getting trolled hardcore by MTGO.

Also, still no Niv-Mizzet!

 

[kirblar]

Westvale Abbey is preordering for 20 dollars. Twenty US dollars. And one guy selling for 10 bucks on TCG player lol

DFCs are just about as rare as normal R/Ms. This is crazy town stuff.

 

[Son1x]

I'm of the mindset that you ban Temple, not Eye. Eye is a problem, but it's legendary and doesn't tap for any mana.

Good to see SSG get the boot though, card is used solely to make unfair strategies go off faster.

I'll take Eye ban over the Temple just to weaken Tron.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Have they already posted the prerelease cards? I can't seem to find them on the "Mothership"...

If you mean the cards that are seeded into prerelease packs, it is no longer the case that there are specific cards for that. You instead get any one rare or mythic rare in addition to your normal booster packs.

In other news, cute article about Magic parenting.

 

[kirblar]

This is Innistrad 1.0 all over again, set is just super popular and it's inflating prices.

 

[WanderingWind]

This is Innistrad 1.0 all over again, set is just super popular and it's inflating prices.

Yeah, well, Snapcaster.

 

[kirblar]

Yeah, well, Snapcaster.

I'm more talking about the $70 Lilis on release weekend.

 

[WanderingWind]

I'm more talking about the $70 Lilis on release weekend.

Or Cavern of Souls, which I think are now up to $800 a playset!

 

[ultron87]

Yeah i want to do 2. I'm already signed up for 10:30am on saturday. That would give me 5 hours of sleep if i did midnight :\

Ah yeah, that's pretty early. My Saturday one isn't till 2 so I can still get a reasonable sleep.

 

[Ooccoo]

BR Vampires I'm thinking on building for the new Standard. Still missing a few cards though

4 Falkenrath Gorger
4 Asylum Visitor
4 Heir of Falkenrath
4 Fiery Temper
4 Incorrigible Youth
1 Kalitas
2 Drana, Liberator of Malakir
2 Olivia, Mobilized for War
2 Grasp of Darkness
2 Dead Weight

 

[phazedplasma]

Westvale Abbey is preordering for 20 dollars. Twenty US dollars. And one guy selling for 10 bucks on TCG player lol

10 on card kingdom, was 6 yesterday. cfb making $$$$

 

[kirblar]

Or Cavern of Souls, which I think are now up to $800 a playset!

?????

What on earth does a price today of something OOP for years have to do with the popularity/price of a set while it's in print?

 

[Haines]

I'll do a prerelease on Saturday and Sunday.

I refuse to do a midnight release.

330 in the LR review and they are pretty much nailing everything as far as I can tell from playing with the cards. A couple cards they miss something once in a while but that's to be expected.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I'll do a prerelease on Saturday and Sunday.

I refuse to do a midnight release.

330 in the LR review and they are pretty much nailing everything as far as I can tell from playing with the cards. A couple cards they miss something once in a while but that's to be expected.

I do midnights and then leave. I just want those sweet, sweet packs.

 

[WanderingWind]

?????

What on earth does a price today of something OOP for years have to do with the popularity/price of a set while it's in print?

I don't see how this is confusing, tbh. If you could go back in time and snag Snapcasters for the then ridiculous $20 dollar preorder, would you? Or Lilis? Or Caverns? I'm not even arguing with you man, just saying hopefully SoI really is Innistrad all over again. That set was nuts for eternal playables.

 

[ultron87]

One thing from LSV's Red review that is probably useful to know/be reminded of, regarding the 1/1 devils that ping when they die.

I do have to mention an interaction that is likely to come up with all these Devils—make sure your multi-blocking actually works. Imagine that your opponent attacks with a 6/6 and you block with 3 Devils, planning on pinging it 3 times to finish it off. Not so fast—your opponent can choose to only kill 2 of the Devils, leaving them with a 6/6 that has 3 damage on it, and you able to deal only 2 extra damage.

That seems like a thing that could catch a lot of people. I definitely hadn't thought of it. That's the kind of thing I'd feel bad at "getting" someone with at the Prerelease, so I might not do it, unless I know the player is quite experienced. Later drafts, sure.

 

[Ashodin]

Westvale Abbey is preordering for 20 dollars. Twenty US dollars. And one guy selling for 10 bucks on TCG player lol

fucking insane lol

You will NEVER GET THERE if Languish dominates the format.

It's back from WOTC!!!!

I also got my Erebos's Titan in the mail. Time to brew Erebos deck!

Also pre-ordered three Thalia's Lieutenant. I figure I'm gonna open at least one from now until release.

 

[WanderingWind]

One thing from LSV's Red review that is probably useful to know/be reminded of, regarding the 1/1 devils that ping when they die.



That seems like a thing that could catch a lot of people. I definitely hadn't thought of it. That's the kind of thing I'd feel bad at "getting" someone with at the Prerelease, so I might not do it, unless I know the player is quite experienced. Later drafts, sure.

Oh, shit, really? How has this never come up before on MTGO?

 

[Ringo]

If you mean the cards that are seeded into prerelease packs, it is no longer the case that there are specific cards for that. You instead get any one rare or mythic rare in addition to your normal booster packs.

Seriously? That's ehm..interesting...I bet it will drive die-hard collectors nuts.

 

[Metroidvania]

Or Cavern of Souls, which I think are now up to $800 a playset!

I'm assuming you were facetious, but it still got me curious, so I checked.

Only 240 for NM/M, according to SCG. Still, 60 bucks for a Cavern of Souls means not buying it for EDH anytime soon, lol.

In other news, buying a box off of Massdrop may not have been a bad idea for immediate turn-arounds, even if I only really want Avacyn, the delirium angel, and a few other cards.

That seems like a thing that could catch a lot of people. I definitely hadn't thought of it. That's the kind of thing I'd feel bad at "getting" someone with at the Prerelease, so I might not do it, unless I know the player is quite experienced. Later drafts, sure.

Just to make sure I'm remembering things right (haven't had this come up in a while, lol), the attacking player could assign 2 damage to 1 devil, and 4 to the other (or 3/3), leaving one untouched, correct?

 

[ultron87]

Oh, shit, really? How has this never come up before on MTGO?

As far as I know you can do it on MTGO. The little up and down arrows come up when there's multiple blockers to assign damage to.

Just to make sure I'm remembering things right (haven't had this come up in a while, lol), the attacking player could assign 2 damage to 1 devil, and 4 to the other (or 3/3), leaving one untouched, correct?

Yeah, you have to assign at least lethal damage to the blockers in order, but you're totally free to overkill stuff in the order when assigning damage.