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[MickeyPhree]

Fox just showed a video of what might be the plane hitting the ground and exploding. No smoke trail in the sky. Seems to be the missle clipped part of the plane and didn't damage the fuselage.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Discretion is not in their vocabulary, true.

The "experts" on gaf aren't any better. In fact they're worse.

You have a fair point there.

It's the same expert

Sounds like it's time to disregard CNN today.

Agreed, keep in mind that this is the same station that entertained someone's theory that a black hole swallowed that earlier Malaysian airflight.

Can't believe that we've entered a situation where saying "earlier Malaysian airflight" would be necessary, oh my god.

No one predicted a ground to air missile to hit the same airliner.

 

[Carn82]

Or it blew up in the air for countless other reasons...

Yeah, but that kinds of extreme explosions are pretty rare, afaik

 

[Nicktendo86]

Interfax stating that Ukraine may have been trying to shoot down Putin's plane according to an unidentified person in Russia's aviation service.

Yeah, unidentified Russian aviation service individual. I can easily believe that.

 

[Cloudy]

So this is why you don't give a bunch of hooligans military grade SAM-s and train them to use them.

A tragedy.

Seriously. All these idiots who want to arm Syrian rebels better take a long look at this

 

[Loud Hawk]

An expert on CNN just said there's no way the plane was shot down. Could this be the Ukrainians and Malaysian Airlines taking advantage of a regular plane crash?

From what I have seen, the plane fell out of the sky like a brick shithouse, already in pieces before impact. Unless it was a catastrophic mid-air breakup like China Airlines Flight 611
which is unlikely, it was hit by something.

 

[ronito]

MSNBC calling it as it is. We already know who shot. There's no way the US doesn't.

 

[Fox318]

This is insane.

 

[Sayter]

Bloomberg reporting rebels have black boxes and want to turn them over to Moscow. Moscow is asking Ukraine for permission to enter country with an emergency response team. The UK is asking for a UN security council meeting to be held ASAP.

 

[Zaph]

Sir Andrew Wood (former British ambassador for Russia) putting down the facts plainly on BBC. Not looking good for Putin.

 

[Guy.brush]

Bloomberg reporting rebels have black boxes and want to turn them over to Moscow. Moscow is asking Ukraine for permission to enter country with an emergency response team. The UK is asking for a UN security council meeting to be held ASAP.

Right. EMERGENCY COVER OUR ASSES TEAM is more like it.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Fox just showed a video of what might be the plane hitting the ground and exploding. No smoke trail in the sky. Seems to be the missle clipped part of the plane and didn't damage the fuselage.

This is horrifying to think, but possible the plane hit pretty intact so passengers were aware of what was happening? Would explain why bodies are found strapped to seats.

I feel sick.

 

[Pastry]

Sir Andrew Wood (former British ambassador for Russia) putting down the facts plainly on BBC. Not looking good for Putin.

What is he saying?

 

[cafemomo]

"expert" on CNN is a damn moron

also coincidently, 18 years to the day, another aviation incident occurred - TWA800

 

[Konka]

The guy on CNN is calling the lack of a smoke trail leading to the impact suspect.

Not that I believe that

 

[commedieu]

Sir Andrew Wood (former British ambassador for Russia) putting down the facts plainly on BBC. Not looking good for Putin.

Summarize bro!

 

[The_Inquisitor]

The issue is that there a good chance important clues are being "scrubbed" as we speak. I am afraid we may never know the full truth of this.

 

[maniac-kun]

https://twitter.com/AbraxasSpa/status/489841067001647104

@AbraxasSpa: 4 franceses, 9 británicos, 23 americanos, 35 holandeses... y faltan muchos #MH17 #Snizhne #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/hHIRLb511q

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Journalist Noah Sneider tweets: At crash site of #MH17. Bodies everywhere, organs splayed out. Too gruesome to post photographs. This is an absolute disaster.

 

[Brazil]

The issue is that there a good chance important clues are being "scrubbed" as we speak. I am afraid we may never know the full truth of this.

We never know the truth of anything. I just want something done.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Bloomberg reporting rebels have black boxes and want to turn them over to Moscow. Moscow is asking Ukraine for permission to enter country with an emergency response team. The UK is asking for a UN security council meeting to be held ASAP.

Hahahaha.

Oh my fucking sides.

 

[commedieu]

The issue is that there a good chance important clues are being "scrubbed" as we speak. I am afraid we may never know the full truth of this.

Right, therres no way anyone is going to get their hands on non-compromised material. You could chemically check for whatever signature the explosives have but I doubt that will get in the hand of a competent lab.

Russian lab is of course going to say it just blew up due to reasons.

 

[Verger]

Is there a live stream to watch? The streams posted a few pages back do not seem to work for me, in the US at least.

 

[Terra]

This sounds like the intro of a Call of Duty game.

Not really appropriate. But when I heard about the incident, this is what warped through my mind:

"After the end of World War 2, the world was split into two; East and West."



On topic: All those reports are making me dizzy. I should go get some sleep and hope that clarity ensues.

 

[Morat]

This is horrifying to think, but possible the plane hit pretty intact so passengers were aware of what was happening? Would explain why bodies are found strapped to seats.

I feel sick.

Many passengers on the Lockerbie flight were found still strapped in, and that broke up in mid air. I don't really want to think about the thought processes of a human being in that situation.

 

[LNBL]

https://twitter.com/AbraxasSpa/status/489841067001647104

Dutch news puts the Dutch casualties above 55

 

[HerbertFish]

I accidentally came across those on twitter. I'm scarred from it. Really surprised at how...Intact the bodies were. Ugh can't get the image out.

 

[Uzzy]

Many passengers on the Lockerbie flight were found still strapped in, and that broke up in mid air. I don't really want to think about the thought processes of a human being in that situation.

I've read thoughts that the sudden explosive decompression would knock people out.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Horrible. I can only hope their deaths were quick. Some pictures have trickled out, they're as horrible as you could imagine.

 

[Morat]

I've read thoughts that the sudden explosive decompression would knock people out.

I hope you are right

 

[Exr]

This sounds like the intro of a Call of Duty game.

NeoGAF.

 

[Fantastapotamus]

This can't even be a question right? Why would Ukraine shoot down a jet? As far as I know the seperatist don't have jets, so why would they just asume this is an enemy jet and shoot it down?

 

[Volotaire]

Wow , the similarities to the Korean Air Lines Flight 007 disaster in the Cold War are stark.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

is there even consequences for shit like this? Or can Russia shoot down planes freely?

 

[commedieu]

Horrible. I can only hope their deaths were quick. Some pictures have trickled out, they're as horrible as you could imagine.

can you pm a link?

This can't even be a question right? Why would Ukraine shoot down a jet? As far as I know the seperatist don't have jets, so why would they just asume this is an enemy jet and shoot it down?

an enemy commercial air liner...

 

[Incognito]

Just catching up on the news and was scrolling through twitter only to come across a horrific image of an individual still strapped in to their seat. Just detestable.

 

[Megasoum]

Many passengers on the Lockerbie flight were found still strapped in, and that broke up in mid air. I don't really want to think about the thought processes of a human being in that situation.

It's crazy how fragile life is compared to the body that carries it.

 

[DoktorEvil]

I need to get back to work.

If I keep seeing more pictures I'm going to be physically sick and mope a little bit.

 

[Midnight Phoenix]

According to Russian mass media terrorists does not possessing any type of AA. And that airplane was destroyed by Ukrainian air force or Ukrainian AA Buk. Terrorists doesn't have Buk... Oh wait:

https://translate.google.com/transl...m/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1325289&edit-text=

 

[lordfuzzybutt]

Well, first some personal bad news and then this. Guess this month is fucking canceled.

 

[| Praxis |]

Holy shit! Just got home from work, seen the thread title and thought it was a joke about the missing Malaysian flight. Can't believe the rebels have shot down a commercial aircraft. Crazy.

 

[Sayter]

This can't even be a question right? Why would Ukraine shoot down a jet? As far as I know the seperatist don't have jets, so why would they just asume this is an enemy jet and shoot it down?

At this point I don't believe anyone is blaming the Ukraine. But the facts are still loosely based on who did what. Stay tuned.

 

[MikeDown]

Horrible. I can only hope their deaths were quick. Some pictures have trickled out, they're as horrible as you could imagine.

Those pictures were just... idk, I was expacting to see bloodied carnage, but alot of them just looked like they were lining there asleep

 

[Jayof9s]

Many passengers on the Lockerbie flight were found still strapped in, and that broke up in mid air. I don't really want to think about the thought processes of a human being in that situation.

You're supposed to keep your seat belt fastened any time you're sitting in your seat, even while the sign is not illuminated. I'm sure some people don't follow this, but I would expect a good number of people to be strapped in even if it was a completely unexpected event with 0 reaction time.

 

[Betta Lines]

Fox just showed a video of what might be the plane hitting the ground and exploding. No smoke trail in the sky. Seems to be the missle clipped part of the plane and didn't damage the fuselage.

The guy on CNN is calling the lack of a smoke trail leading to the impact suspect.

If this is the video where you start to see smoke rising in the distance, I'm not sure how useful that is - can you actually see the plane? I couldn't see shit. The impact may have already occurred as the video begins, and we see the smoke only once it reaches a certain height that is visible from the camera's position.

 

[nny]

This makes me feel sick. I know these are nothing but words, but...condolences.

Horrible.

 

[Measley]

LoL! Fox News blaming Obama.

Gotta love it.

 

[Morat]

You're supposed to keep your seat belt fastened any time you're sitting in your seat, even while the sign is not illuminated. I'm sure some people don't follow this, but I would expect a good number of people to be strapped in even if it was a completely unexpected event with 0 reaction time.

Exactly

 

[Fantastapotamus]

I'm gonna quit this thread, sooner or later some asshole is going to post those images here and I really don't want to see them...

 

[cafemomo]

is there even consequences for shit like this? Or can Russia shoot down planes freely?

The USSR shot down a Korean B747 jet during the cold war
the US Navy shot down a Iranian A300 in 1988

nothing really major happened