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[studyguy]

Its heartbreaking because its dark and he didnt know and some rebels are shining flashlights and he's just seeing it for the first time.

I really feel for these people and their families.

Definitely, moreover as much as I'd like to hear about it now. The 24hr news cycle will be going on all cylinders trying to pull whatever scraps they can out of anyone and everyone. Families, friends, etc. That I find equally disgusting, but shock sells I guess.

I am curious as to how the world will react now that we have our fingers on the pulse of world news with something as simple as a phone. There have been incidents like this in the past, but now the word is traveling fast to all parts of the globe. Crazy stuff.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Sadly, nothing is going to happen to Russia.

Fuck this, what a terrible tragedy done by some armed idiots...

No, economic sanctions is what is going to happen to Russia.

It's the 21'st century, you don't need a bomb to hurt a country.

 

[HI. BILLY MAYS HERE]

War is coming. FUCK.

Cold War 2

 

[Morat]

Going to be fun to see Russia block the next Security Council resolution.

Yup

 

[SniperHunter]

FOX is calling out RT.

Damn Shep is in rage mode.

what are they saying

 

[Josh7289]

The US navy did shoot down the Iranian Air Flight 655 when it is still was on Iranian territory, 290 civilians got killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Wow, I didn't know about this. It's essentially the exact same situation.

 

[Raistlin]

For some reason I had put it past Fox News to bring petty politics into this. Fuck me.

Seriously, I was fully expecting Republicans and Fox News to play this hand the moment I heard it was shot down :\

 

[AirBrian]

Is the Pentagon confirming the Ukrainian fighter jet was shot down by Russia? Or the Malaysia jet? Big difference here and I hope we're not mixing up the two.

 

[BeatResetsTheWorld]

War is coming. FUCK.

Yeah no

 

[Lambtron]

He's a washed up hack of an 'actor' who does stupid 'shock' shit on twitter because he can't get work otherwise.

Pie Fucker plays the worst character on OITNB, and I guess he sucks just as much in real life. Go away, Pie Fucker.

 

[CitizenVectron]

https://twitter.com/Galrahn/status/489846120185462786

But who is this guy?

 

[PhantomHound]

Shepard Smith: "RT, Russia Today, Is Putin!... Putin is a liar, and this time his lies won't fly"

 

[Sigmaah]

probs not with russia but just war in general, crazy shit just keeps happening and happening, so someone will finally do something absolutely ridiculous and after that, I fear the worst.

I'm probably just buggin tho.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Holy shit these twists.

Russia: You have some fuckin explaining to do.

 

[Oersted]

Even if the missile did not come from Russia, the Russians are still responsible. They supplied the seperatists with surface to air missiles, run of the mill rebels around the world can't get access to gear like that.

Russo is directly repsonibe for everything that has happened, flooding the area with weapons and paramilitaries has only caused the conflict to grow. I hope the world reacts and does something.

And USA is directly responsible for Taliban/ Al Qaeda etc attacks like 9/11?

 

[DrM]

so who is this guy and is he reliable?

That tweet is not related to this accident, but to one from several days ago (when rebels took down Ukrainian army plane)

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

so who is this guy and is he reliable?

I think we're going to find out within the next few hours. If they launched a missile we would easily see it.
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EDIT: It's from a few days ago, unrelated.

 

[BobTheFork]

i doubt the missile came from Russia. The Russian backed rebels in Ukraine are responsible imo

I think you meant to say you doubt the missile was FIRED from Russia. If the rebels had it, it CAME from Russia

 

[Flunkie]

Holy shit, on CNN now, dude talking about phone calls to Russian GRU members?

 

[Tamanon]

Keep in mind "originated in Russia" could also mean they're saying it was manufactured and distributed from Russia.

 

[RustyNails]

If Russia is behind this, how much of a chance is there to remove them from the UN Security Council permanent status?

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Is it coming from the Pentagon directly or is it traveling through the twitter vine?

I don't know but with CNN commenting on it and pentagon reporters on twitter commenting it which leads me to believe they'll comment publicly soon. And they wouldn't unless they have proof and you don't say you have proof unless you're going to show it.

 

[Kurtofan]

This world is truly some fucked up shit.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Holy shit, on CNN now, dude talking about phone calls to Russian GRU members?

Yeah if what he's saying checks out he's got huge evidence.

 

[Guy.brush]

https://twitter.com/Galrahn/status/489846120185462786

My guess is that the Pentagon source meant that the missile was provided by Russia, doesn't mean they actually fired from within their borders.

 

[Zaph]

More Andrew Wood insights just now:

• There will now be massive international pressure on Moscow for a permanent resolution
• Only possible resolution he thinks will be accepted is the return of land to Ukraine.

This plane may have just cost Russia Crimea control.

 

[CitizenVectron]

I don't know but with CNN commenting on it and pentagon reporters on twitter commenting it which leads me to believe they'll comment publicly soon. And they wouldn't unless they have proof and you don't say you have proof unless you're going to show it.

Who are these Pentagon reporters though? That Ray Pritchett guy? He doesn't appear to be a reporter.

 

[Flunkie]

Yeah if what he's saying checks out he's got huge evidence.

And that's HUGE if it's Russian GRU.

 

[CassSept]

Wow they have the tapes of the 'separatists' discussing the attack.

 

[HI. BILLY MAYS HERE]

Calm down, lol. It will most likely be some verbal fights being spouted from point A to point B for a few months and then it will all be forgotten again.

What? With who?

Russia would not deliberately shoot down a commercial airliner. There is nothing to gain. If anything, its seperatists, everyone will blame Russia indirectly, sanctions will increase. Nothing else.

No, economic sanctions is what is going to happen to Russia.

It's the 21'st century, you don't need a bomb to hurt a country.

Do more sanctions mean less vodka and more bears on unicycles for Russia ?

 

[JohnTinker]

Ukrainian Govt claiming to have phone conversations between the Russian terrorists about the shoot down

 

[Cuyejo]

If Russia is behind this, how much of a chance is there to remove them from the UN Security Council permanent status?

USA and the URSS shot down planes full of civilians during the Cold War, basically nothing happened.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

If Russia is behind this, how much of a chance is there to remove them from the UN Security Council permanent status?

Not even a remote chance. Also I don't think you can remove a permanent member of the UN.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

If Russia is behind this, how much of a chance is there to remove them from the UN Security Council permanent status?

0. They can veto their removal. That's the whole purpose of them being a permanent member. If they tried any other way the UN would collapse.

 

[Volotaire]

These situations are different because of where it happened, and what is happening there. You can't really compare airliners shot down by superpowers which no one wants to truly mess with, and a semi-amorphous group of separatists with a more limited power base.

It was more about the context of the situation, with the strain of relations between two powers in either case. I guess using the word stark was not appropriate on my part. Still, it's going to be fascinating what happens next in this conflict.

If Russia is behind this, how much of a chance is there to remove them from the UN Security Council permanent status?

This will never happen.

 

[PoweredBySoy]

Shep not having RT's claims about a Ukrainian missile targeting Putin

Shep rocks.

 

[RustyNails]

Ukrainian Govt claiming to have phone conversations between the Russian terrorists about the shoot down

You mean between the separatists and GRU (Russian Intelligence).

 

[CoolOff]

Ukranians are claiming GRU? :|

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

fuck. what the hell

RIP to the many that lost their lives.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Shep isn't part of the usual Fox cast of characters. He's the best anchor they have by far.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Wow they have the tapes of the 'separatists' discussing the attack.

already? its not even been 4 hours. I call bs on that.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Wow they have the tapes of the 'separatists' discussing the attack.

US had the same thing with the Korean Air the USSR shot down in the 80s

 

[Mr.Mike]

I don't know how far Europe will be willing to go with sanctions that would harm themselves as well. But hopefully they'll start to really take the work of eliminating any reliance on Russian oil seriously. And maybe France will decide to never deliver the warships it built for Russia.

 

[Midnight Phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU5NSSzYygk

I am sure, that RT and other garbage will show this video with title "Ukrainian buk after taking down Boing"

 

[chaostrophy]

Keep in mind "originated in Russia" could also mean they're saying it was manufactured and distributed from Russia.

That's how I read it, then was confused by all the "holy shit" posts. Hopefully the media will clarify.

 

[Oersted]

But who is this guy?

His next tweet

Source also claims there was Ukrainian military aircraft near #MH17 at time of shooting. #MH17 may not have been target.

https://twitter.com/Galrahn/status/489846391598878721

Lets just wait. Its one guy

 

[freenudemacusers]

That tweet is not related to this accident, but to one from several days ago (when rebels took down Ukrainian army plane)

oh in that case, can people do a little bit of groundwork before posting whatever random shit they come across?


thanks in advance

 

[NYCmetsfan]

already? its not even been 4 hours. I call bs on that.

Sigint. They're constantly recording. its takes 5 seconds to go back on the recording.

 

[Tarkus]

Shep isn't part of the usual Fox cast of characters. He's the best anchor they have by far.

Best on cable news period. Surprisingly, he's also gay. Breaking the Fox News mold.

Edit: Off-topic - off-topic GAF just broke 30,000,000 posts!

 

[RustyNails]

0. They can veto their removal. That's the whole purpose of them being a permanent member. If they tried any other way the UN would collapse.

Not even a remote chance. Also I don't think you can remove a permanent member of the UN.

USA and the URSS shot down planes full of civilians during the Cold War, basically nothing happened.

Ugh. Carry on then.

This permanent member stuff is so dumb.