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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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All I know is that there is zero indication that it crashed, while there is some indication that it didn't.
And it doesn't have to land in Russia/China/Australia or some other highly-monitored area. There are plenty of remote islands for it to land on.
Meus Renaissance
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I don't think the pilots did it. Just a gut feeling
Slurpy2k20
Member
I'd chalk this up to sarcasm, except for the mind-numbing nature of your previous posts. Sure, this is definitely "proof" when you're deperately trying to validate your ridiculous narrative.
The pilot's previous personal life has been turned upside down and inside out, and if this is the strongest "proof" that the pilot is a hijacker/murderer/criminal/terrorist so far, that's pretty damn weak.
No, not really. A lot of people thought Democracy was dead when the Malaysian government rigged their election, I know I did. It was kinda a big deal over there.
rooflapimp
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Do you realize how absurd this sounds? That's some James Bond villain type shit
Do you actually know anything about the stuff you're posting about, or are you just reading tabloid news blindly? I'm worried for you at this point.
What is absurd is you trying to have me pin-down WHERE it landed. That would be almost as absurd as me asking you.....where it crashed.
I obviously don't know where it landed. However, the evidence indicates that it landed somewhere rather than crashed.
ginger ninja
Banned
what evidence is that exactly ? i can say it went into another dimension using a space time portal and that argument would has the same amount of evidence as saying that it landed somewhere..truth is there is no evidence, its all armchair speculation at this point and its only getting worse, i hope they find the plane otherwise this will fuel the worst tin foil hattery of ages
Chittagong
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There is a piece in this puzzle that doesn't fit.
- if you just needed a 777, why go through the trouble of dealing with one full of passengers and not jack an empty one?
- if you didn't need the 777 but just wanted to cause mayhem to many people (be it for personal, religious or political reasons), why do the elaborate evasive moves to hide where it went down?
as it's becoming more likely that an incredibly elaborate plot was required to make a 777 vanish, the question of motive is really interesting.
- if you just needed a 777, why go through the trouble of dealing with one full of passengers and not jack an empty one?
- if you didn't need the 777 but just wanted to cause mayhem to many people (be it for personal, religious or political reasons), why do the elaborate evasive moves to hide where it went down?
as it's becoming more likely that an incredibly elaborate plot was required to make a 777 vanish, the question of motive is really interesting.
oipic
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This article is full of holes and ambiguity. Where is the car now? Is it still parked at the airport? Did the pilot's wife return in this same vehicle?
Had it not been reported that said wife was headed elsewhere (a second house?) that evening*, and if so, is it really that unusual that he would perhaps drive to the airport (not far from home, if previous reports are correct), and then his wife jumps into the driver's seat and continues on? On face value, is this particularly suspicious, even if it differs from their everyday behaviour? (bit sloppy and rude to not cancel the cab booking, admittedly - rushed exit, late change of plans?)
* or, contradicting this, as other reports suggested, had Captain Zaharie's wife done a runner and left the family home the previous day/night?
Lots of column inches alluding to lots of different things, with much contradictory info being bandied about - I'm inclined to believe very little of any of it at the moment.
I didn't mean "evidence" exactly; I meant "indications"
Christina Mackenzie
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You have a better chance of booking a ticket on a commercial flight than cargo or one that is sitting in a hangar.
Actually holy shit, I'm sorry that I had to quote your awful post a second time, but from the article:
Take 30 seconds to listen to this (From yesterday's press conference)
Grats on linking the potentially shittiestly corroborated article in existence.
Fjolle
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What if you needed something that was on the plane?
onken
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The alternative is stealing one from a runway. Just try thinking that through for a minute.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Maybe there were some valuable people/cargo on the plane that certain parties wanted to disappear
DoktorEvil
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I asked that same question. According to Malaysian officials, nobody on the phone was a POI.
Boy Wander
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For those saying that the plane has been landed, can you speculate where this would have been possible without the aircraft being picked up by radar?
Anywhere. Even Russia has been humiliated by having a plane fly through it undetected. Look up Mathias Rust.
baphomet
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Actually, when a plane goes missing for days its basically a 100% chance that it crashed. This is no different.
Catchpenny
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Some possibilities:
If you wanted to steal a 777 and get away before the military is scrambled, it might be better to stage a disappearance of a scheduled flight in progress, if you have the skill to do so.
A 777 or other jet that is sitting around unoccupied has probably been grounded for some time, likely because it is not in good condition. The 727 that was stolen in 2003 has been mentioned before...one of the last pilots to fly that plane said it was in such poor shape that it inexplicably lost cabin pressure during a flight, and that the emergency beacon was inoperable.
If the person trying to take the plane is the pilot, well, he already has access to a jet that sees regular maintenance.
Just read that Jet Li's stunt double is on the plane... From the sounds of it, he sounds like a pretty formidable guy..
If there were any hijackers, this guy would surely put up a fight.
http://m.smh.com.au/world/jet-lis-b...-malaysia-airlines-flight-20140317-hvjq8.html
If there were any hijackers, this guy would surely put up a fight.
http://m.smh.com.au/world/jet-lis-b...-malaysia-airlines-flight-20140317-hvjq8.html
Who knows if they have found something subsequently? I doubt the public already has the full picture.
Catchpenny
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When a plane has gone missing, it's generally not because someone disabled the detection/comm systems on the plane.
When a plane crashes, it doesn't usually continue to ping a satellite for 7 hours after last verbal communication.
Did the plane crash? Probably. However, if it has done so, and the information gleamed from the satellite is correct, it crashed into a vast expanse of ocean after eight hours of flight, and seven hours after a deliberate deviation in the plane's path. Said vast expanse of ocean is also in the opposite direction from the last heading the plane was on according to military radar.
It is not a crazy thing to come up with alternate theories, given that info.
People asleep at the wheel. NYT has reported that at least four Malaysian radars, 2 air traffic and two air defense radars, detected plane. They didn't realize it out until looking at tapes after the fact.
PotatoeMasher
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Interesting theory that MH370 may have snuck through military airspace in the shadow of another 777: http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68
Sounds more like he was the bad guy.
You'd need a mad genius trained in all forms of martial arts to pull off something like that.
"We're flying a plane towards _____. Also, we have 200+ hostages. If you shoot down the plane, you're killing all of these people"
Catchpenny
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Invalid after 9/11. Would be shot down for even approaching land, if the plane radioed in saying that. I think hijackers/terrorists would know that.
Shopped?
That looks like a survivable landing because the plane wasn't torn to shreds. Shouldn't there be floatation devices (rafts) on board in case of engine failure over water?
Maybe the hoaxsters are out.
Would still work for a rogue group's PR purposes.
Freaky Fred
Banned
any more press conferences scheduled?
chaosblade
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Interesting theory, but would it actually work? How close would these planes have to be?
There have been multiple hijackings of passenger airliners after 9/11. None were shot down.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings
A ship was directed there and found nothing.
Not shopped, you can check the map yourself. But it looks like some image artefacts, especially where all these white dots are. There's a bunch of straight lines with a slightly different hue.
Opus Angelorum
Member
And wouldn't military radar have picked up both objects?
As I understand it, TCAS does not work unless your own transponder is also turned on and without TCAS there is no way to fly that close
Freaky Fred
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thanks, I think it's starting now
maquiladora
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More detailed maps of northern/southern routes to be released.
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