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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean

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dorkimoe

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Some of the things they blow out of proportion annoys me

"THe pilot emptied the recycle bin on his computer" TERRORIST!

""he deleted files" Ok well until you know what he deleted i think its pretty pointless to bring up,
 
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Maninthemirror

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CNN is such a shody place to get news


90% is inclined towards the possibility that every news is seen from the eyes of malicious intent when the fact is no one knows the facts and its 50 50
 
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Betta Lines

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jaxword said:
Don't bother. Tastes like a bland mango/Durian. Not worth the effort, since the flavor isn't that unique or distinctive.
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I agree, I recommend jackfruit and
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duku langsat instead. Quite unusual flavours (jackfruit tastes like bubblegum) but at the end of the day, a really good mango trumps all this exotic stuff.
 
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arbok26 said:
Now they are saying the southern corridor which I just don't buy... there's nothing there. the only plausible explanation is that the pilot was unconsciousness and they ran out of fuel. That's the only explanation and they made deliberate action to turn back too which makes it less likely.
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Suicide. Making sure that investigators can't prove it, so the family won't loose the life insurance.
 
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liquidtmd

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At the moment the most key scenarios are:

- The most unfortunate series of technical events, fire and smoke in 777 history happened that incapacitated the crew before any communications at all could be made, and made the flight fly out into the sea on auto-pilot until it ran out of fuel

- The pilots / mystery persons for reasons unknown disabled the comms and pulled the most jive flight manouervers witnessed outside Top Gun and flew underneath another jet to escape radar to a destination unknown for reasons unknown. No group or individual has made ransom or political demands, mainly because they may be looking to use the 777 again to crash into somewhere which would be very sensible since its dramatic disappearance has put probably 75% of the worlds radars on high alert for a missing 777.

- The pilot or co-pilot who otherwise seemed normal with solid backgrounds decided to commit suicide in the most bizarre way without telling anyone and taking 200+ people with them.

Clear as day.
 
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Cromat

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Cyber-terrorism: someone installed a computer virus on the plane which allowed him to disable communications and change the course of the plane.
 
GungHo

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Pandemic said:
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Frustration is beginning to turn to anger, as two Chinese relatives were dragged out of the press conference room by police. Very sad, I'd probably do the same.
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Yeah, I'd absolutely be losing my shit in their place. All the changing stories, all the changing focus areas for the search, all the apparent incompetence on everyone's part... it's maddening.
 
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Ovid

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liquidtmd said:
At the moment the most key scenarios are:

- The most unfortunate series of technical events, fire and smoke in 777 history happened that incapacitated the crew before any communications at all could be made, and made the flight fly out into the sea on auto-pilot until it ran out of fuel

- The pilots / mystery persons for reasons unknown disabled the comms and pulled the most jive flight manouervers witnessed outside Top Gun and flew underneath another jet to escape radar to a destination unknown for reasons unknown. No group or individual has made ransom or political demands, mainly because they may be looking to use the 777 again to crash into somewhere which would be very sensible since its dramatic disappearance has put probably 75% of the worlds radars on high alert for a missing 777.

- The pilot or co-pilot who otherwise seemed normal with solid backgrounds decided to commit suicide in the most bizarre way without telling anyone and taking 200+ people with them.

Clear as day.
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First scenario is suspect since all indications point the comms being turned off as premeditated.
 
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CREMSteve

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CNN reporting that the FBI has taken the pilot's flight simulator and are examining it, due to the fact that the data has been deleted from it.
 
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KHarvey16

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The pilot practicing this and the co-pilot being the one to last communicate with ATC would require them to be working together if the FMS was programmed to perform these maneuvers.
 
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syllogism

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The "flight simulator" is just a PC that in all likelihood was used for various things besides playing Flight Simulator X, so unless they are saying files from that specific folder were deleted, that isn't very interesting by this point.
 
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ced

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KHarvey16 said:
The pilot practicing this and the co-pilot being the one to last communicate with ATC would require them to be working together if the FMS was programmed to perform these maneuvers.
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Do pilots and first officers get randomly assigned the day of the flight or is it planned long ahead of time?
 
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Megasoum

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syllogism said:
The "flight simulator" is just a PC that in all likelihood was used for various things besides playing Flight Simulator X, so unless they are saying files from that specific folder were deleted, that isn't very interesting by this point.
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Yeah...and even then, if you create a flightplan with an external tool (like PFPX for example) you will have to save it as a file on your PC and then import it from inside the cockpit in FSX... At some point the folder where you save you flightplans from PFPX gets clutered and you might want to clean it up. Doesn't mean there's really anything suspicious with that.
 
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Maninthemirror

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ced said:
Do pilots and first officers get randomly assigned the day of the flight or is it planned long ahead of time?
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The pilots are randomly assigned but you can request to swap flights easily . My father worked for Pakistan airlines and Malaysian airlines. It is very common practice. The Malaysians would know if any of the pilots specifically requested this flight as the roster comes out a month before
 
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MMBosstones86

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dorkimoe said:
Some of the things they blow out of proportion annoys me

"THe pilot emptied the recycle bin on his computer" TERRORIST!

""he deleted files" Ok well until you know what he deleted i think its pretty pointless to bring up,
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CREMSteve said:
CNN reporting that the FBI has taken the pilot's flight simulator and are examining it, due to the fact that the data has been deleted from it.
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Leave the mans porn alone. We don't know what to know what he was in to.
 
GungHo

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SOUND BOY said:
Is it really Flight Simulator X that this guy was using at home?
Because if so, holy shit. I had no idea it had gotten that advanced.
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All the mods you see for Skyrim? Imagine if being a Nord barbarian was actually someone's hobby, and they could buy themselves swords, armor, and shit, and wear all that shit while playing a Kinect version of Skyrim that actually works... and then they decide to model their house as a castle into Skyrim, and start putting all their friends, their office, and all that shit into Skyrim. That's what people have done with FSX.
 
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KHarvey16 said:
It was confirmed that they requested that flight?
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Sorry, I meant that the request to not work with each other was false iirc, but I'm unable to find the post at the moment. I think it was in one of their earlier press conferences.

Edit: Sorry, I re-read your post. I got confused for a bit, but yeah your post was correct. Ignore my comments.
 
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Totakeke

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Unless refuted again in a recent press conference, it was made quite clear that they did not request to fly together.

Request to not work together =/= Did not request to work together
 
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Megasoum

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GungHo said:
All the mods you see for Skyrim? Imagine if being a Nord barbarian was actually someone's hobby, and they could buy themselves swords, armor, and shit, and wear all that shit while playing a Kinect version of Skyrim that actually works... and then they decide to model their house as a castle into Skyrim, and start putting all their friends, their office, and all that shit into Skyrim. That's what people have done with FSX.
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LMAO...Couldn't have said it better.
 
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Linkhero1

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Totakeke said:
Unless refuted again in a recent press conference, it was made quite clear that they did not request to fly together.

Request to not work together =/= Did not request to work together
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Correct. I had to read his post again to make sure I read it right, but I didn't. Ha.
 
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Selner

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Megasoum said:
Yeah...and even then, if you create a flightplan with an external tool (like PFPX for example) you will have to save it as a file on your PC and then import it from inside the cockpit in FSX... At some point the folder where you save you flightplans from PFPX gets clutered and you might want to clean it up. Doesn't mean there's really anything suspicious with that.
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If there do happen to be saved flightplans to "random" places in the Indian Ocean or nearby, those places become Search locations.

But that does not mean the pilot had bad intentions, it just means he was more familiar with some specific locations.

If he had practiced emergency landings on some islands or other places, that would be important to know. As he would go to places he was familiar with in the event of an actual emergency.

If he was sophisticated enough to actually steal the plane, you would think he'd be sophistcated enough to removed all trace of his planning from the computer.
 
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scsa

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Was the story on wired posted??

I think it pretty much fits in.
This might be extremely old and already discussed in the thread.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

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There has been a lot of speculation about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Terrorism, hijacking, meteors. I cannot believe the analysis on CNN; it’s almost disturbing. I tend to look for a simpler explanation, and I find it with the 13,000-foot runway at Pulau Langkawi.

We know the story of MH370: A loaded Boeing 777 departs at midnight from Kuala Lampur, headed to Beijing. A hot night. A heavy aircraft. About an hour out, across the gulf toward Vietnam, the plane goes dark, meaning the transponder and secondary radar tracking go off. Two days later we hear reports that Malaysian military radar (which is a primary radar, meaning the plane is tracked by reflection rather than by transponder interrogation response) has tracked the plane on a southwesterly course back across the Malay Peninsula into the Strait of Malacca.

The left turn is the key here. Zaharie Ahmad Shah1 was a very experienced senior captain with 18,000 hours of flight time. We old pilots were drilled to know what is the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us, and airports ahead of us. They’re always in our head. Always. If something happens, you don’t want to be thinking about what are you going to do–you already know what you are going to do. When I saw that left turn with a direct heading, I instinctively knew he was heading for an airport. He was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi, a 13,000-foot airstrip with an approach over water and no obstacles. The captain did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000-foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier toward Langkawi, which also was closer.

Take a look at this airport on Google Earth. The pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make an immediate turn to the closest, safest airport.

When I heard this I immediately brought up Google Earth and searched for airports in proximity to the track toward the southwest.
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For me, the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. And there most likely was an electrical fire. In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one. If they pulled the busses, the plane would go silent. It probably was a serious event and the flight crew was occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, navigate, and lastly, communicate is the mantra in such situations.
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More at the link.
 
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