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[Burger]

I thought the FDR would transmit for 14 days on battery? It's Day 17 now...

 

[Ty4on]

*above* For one month it will ping a signal nearby ships can locate.

Something went wrong in the plane, pilot changed course to find an airport. Plane didn't make it.

He then flew straight south on a path with nothing but water in sight and the plane flew well enough to stay in the air till the fuel ran out. I don't buy it.
Terrorism seems like an odd reason when no one has taken responsibility. Maybe terrorism gone wrong? Really hope the FDR and CVR can be found. Even if they were shut down manually that is still evidence in itself.

 

[TheOddOne]

Heartbreaking.

 

[Van Owen]

Seriously?

Part of the reason I still watch Woody Allen films.

 

[Snkfanatic]

RIP to all those on board.

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

They will search to find black box. Anything that they can collect around that is important, but has diminishing returns depending on ocean flow.

Right, of course. I asked the question because I was unsure of how long it is estimated they would search if they don't find anything.

 

[cdkee]

So what was up with all the speculation about transponders, etc? Was it really a malfunction?

 

[ced]

This is much clearer about the information.

I'm also assuming they have debris that is being analyzed to confirm that statement.

 

[SniperHunter]

I think they will find the black box, in the silk air 185 case the plane broke into million pieces and they still managed to find the box

 

[Dryk]

I thought the FDR would transmit for 14 days on battery? It's Day 17 now...

All the specifications I've seen are 30 days above the specified sound level and then it tails off (but you won't hear it after ~35).

 

[The_Inquisitor]

Right, of course. I asked the question because I was unsure of how long it is estimated they would search if they don't find anything.

Indefinitely until they find box. There could be a design flaw in 777 that could make this happen again.

 

[bigwinnerx]

The plane had to have crossed over land in order to get where it is. Unless they had no idea where they were going, which is extremely unlikely, there's no logical conclusion you can come to about how they ended up where they crashed without foul play.

Incapacitated pilots, plane continues trajectory until it runs out of fuel.

 

[TOP SHOTTA]

I thought the FDR would transmit for 14 days on battery? It's Day 17 now...

30 days.

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

Indefinitely until they find box. There could be a design flaw in 777 that could make this happen again.

I see. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[sangreal]

This is much clearer about the information.

than what? this is word for word what he said at the press conference

 

[Goodlife]

Really annoying that over 2 weeks later, when no new info has been received, they make a statement like this

 

[Mondy]

Incapacitated pilots, plane continues trajectory until it runs out of fuel.

After turning 180 degrees at 30,000 feet? That is quite a reach.

 

[TheAbsolution]

So the press conference is done or is it later?

 

[ced]

than what? this is word for word what he said at the press conference

It's clearer than that has been quoted in this thread and put out by the media.

I didn't see the conference.

 

[coldfoot]

Incapacitated pilots, plane continues trajectory until it runs out of fuel.

Doesn't explain why ACARS and radio were turned off despite being fully functional, even if you attribute the plane changing course to an emergency...

 

[JonnyBrad]

The plane had to have crossed over land in order to get where it is. Unless they had no idea where they were going, which is extremely unlikely, there's no logical conclusion you can come to about how they ended up where they crashed without foul play.

Cockpit fire causes transponder / electrics failure. Pilots turn home. Are knocked out by the smoke or a decompression. Plane then flies on until it runs out of fuel.

To me it's more likely than terrorism.

 

[sangreal]

Doesn't explain why ACARS and radio were turned off, even if you attribute the plane changing course to an emergency...

damaged by the aforementioned emergency

foul play leading to ditching the airplane in the middle of the ocean thousands of miles away doesn't explain disabling acars either

 

[Betty]

Not from what I have read. I think it is like 10,000ft in that area. I think it is within tolerances to get the black box if they can pick up the transmitter. I think 14,000 feet is the cutoff.

That's good then, hopefully they manage to find it.

 

[coldfoot]

damaged by the aforementioned emergency

It was still pinging, aka online, but no data transferred.

 

[KHarvey16]

Really annoying that over 2 weeks later, when no new info has been received, they make a statement like this

No new info? What do you mean?

 

[jufonuk]

ohh, what if the sudden ascent to 40,000 feet was an autopilot error, suffocating all then the plane continued, unless that data was incorrect/

 

[Toadette]

wait Relatives Notified Via Text they told the families this news my txt message ?

if some dies they deserve a phone call

 

[maliedoo]

So the press conference is done or is it later?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[Toadette]

did they give a reason why the plane went way of course ?

 

[Deku Tree]

did they give a reason why the plane went way of course ?

There are only theories...

 

[toxicgonzo]

Where is the proof? Did they find actual debris? Or are they speculating based on data that there was nowhere else it could have landed?

 

[SamPaaji]

hmm

 

[AndyD]

After turning 180 degrees at 30,000 feet? That is quite a reach.

It's not inconceivable. The turn was pre-programmed into the flight computer.

I think the potential theory is that they had a minor incident, then they programmed the turn towards closest airport to try and land/survive, then another incident or worsening of the first and they became incapacitated and the plane became unmanned at that point and flew til out of gas on the new course. And various systems were also disabled by the same incident at various points in time.

 

[Oersted]

did they give a reason why the plane went way of course ?

They still don't have the wreckage.

 

[Pandemic]

I'd hate to think their were survivors, but eventually died after 2 weeks at sea..

 

[Dryk]

Not from what I have read. I think it is like 10,000ft in that area. I think it is within tolerances to get the black box if they can pick up the transmitter. I think 14,000 feet is the cutoff.

Water that deep is going to shave a kilometre or two off of the detection radius too

 

[The Main Event]

Heartbreaking.

So terrible for the families...after 2 fucking weeks.

 

[kiyomi]

Sad to see confirmation, but it was only a matter of time before the passengers and crew were declared deceased.

Now I just hope for everyone involved that the cause of the problem is figured out and hopefully rectified and improved upon in future air travel.

 

[RastaMentality]

wait Relatives Notified Via Text they told the families this news my txt message ?

if some dies they deserve a phone call

This Is true, but weren't they about to enter the press conference in under an hour after receiving the text?

 

[keuja]

Is it possible that decompression or smoke would affect the cockpit only?

 

[LNBL]

Crazy how the airplane ended up south west of Perth while it was supposed to go to Beijing.

wait Relatives Notified Via Text they told the families this news my txt message ?

if some dies they deserve a phone call

True, but would you rather wait if you are going to be the last family to be notified. It's a cold method, but I think it was done to be informed asap.

 

[Goodlife]

No new info? What do you mean?

The last info received from the plane was 2 weeks ago, when it went down. Nothing new has been sent since then.

 

[Alduin]

Oh my god. Such a heartbreaking news.. Condolences to the families.

 

[KHarvey16]

Where is the proof? Did they find actual debris? Or are they speculating based on data that there was nowhere else it could have landed?

The "proof" is analysis of the satellite data.

 

[fierrotlepou]

So terrible for the families...after 2 fucking weeks.

Well, deep down everyone knew there was no chance that 239 passengers might still be alive. I know it's harsh; but that's the way it is.

At least there's some closure for the families now. Better after two weeks than two years.

RIP.

 

[Jintor]

horrible news, though expected. thoughts are with the families of those affected.

i hope one day we'll find out what happened

 

[Tugatrix]

Could the crew been disoriented and turn to south ?

 

[liquidtmd]

I thought the families were being briefed fully prior to the press conference.

That can't be right - that they were notified by text? Surely. I'm given them the benefit of the doubt but my God if thats true....

 

[Alpha_eX]

Text is quickest way to let the families know before the media get hold of it. I think that was the intention, let them know soon as possible and before hearing it casually on the news.

 

[KHarvey16]

The last info received from the plane was 2 weeks ago, when it went down. Nothing new has been sent since then.

No new info transmitted from the plane doesn't mean no new info regarding the crash. I don't understand why the statement is annoying.