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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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The AD goes further than just this single plane that could have had this problem. There is possibly hundreds of 777s out there right now with this serious issue that are still in commission and flying and you don't think this should be brought to anyone's attention? Ok.
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See that? Whatever "that" is, it looks partially submerged
That does look like a plane, tilted to the side, opened door at the cockpit/front, with a part near the on the roof ripped off like on this:
If it really is two boats, is it normal for two boats to be so close and still moving?
edit: I guess it's a totally different picture? Where is the link to the actual site?
Well in essence a plane is three sets of aerodynamic surfaces with some other junk suspended between them. I'd imagine the fear while landing that plane was that the structural damage was great enough that they'd lose the cockpit.Got that baby down on the ground didn't they? I'm just saying that it's quite possible to land one safely after a decompression (that poor flight attendant though...).
toxicgonzo
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Boogalogist
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Man, WTF...at the rate this is going, search is gonna be extended to the Pacific Ocean.
So instead of attempting to extrapolate conflicting reports and obfuscations and such by officials (which at this point, with Malaysia's track record of both the past few days, and longer, is futile until the plane is found, in my opinion) let's go the other way and discuss something else well within the realm of hypothesis instead.
Say nothing is ever found. Nothing on sea, nothing on land, literally no trace. What happens then? What would the aviation industry do?
Say nothing is ever found. Nothing on sea, nothing on land, literally no trace. What happens then? What would the aviation industry do?
There really isn't much they could do since they wouldn't know the actual cause of this. A revamp in tracking or any other technology will take years to change. But if they find the plane and find the cause of the accident, something will change quick.
Why would they search an ocean which is in the wrong direction?
What you mean is the Indian Ocean.
everyday math
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Boogalogist
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No, they'll probably even request for search of the Atlantic Ocean at this rate...
What a cluster fuck.
I'm slowly beginning to suspect that there won't be any sign of the plane for a very long time, if ever. Maybe some debris will wash up on shore somewhere. Either way, future conspiracy fodder for sure.
If the plane did turn, which I now take it may not have happened, the most likely scenario in my mind would be a systems failure that took out the communication systems but left the plane flyable in some sort of limited capacity. Pilots changed course, then the cabin lost pressure and the plane just drifted until it ran out of fuel and went into the ocean. Can't think of another way it'd double back over land again and into another body of water so far off course.
Gotta be some holes in that, but I'm thinking that sort of explanation is more likely than foul play.
I'm slowly beginning to suspect that there won't be any sign of the plane for a very long time, if ever. Maybe some debris will wash up on shore somewhere. Either way, future conspiracy fodder for sure.
If the plane did turn, which I now take it may not have happened, the most likely scenario in my mind would be a systems failure that took out the communication systems but left the plane flyable in some sort of limited capacity. Pilots changed course, then the cabin lost pressure and the plane just drifted until it ran out of fuel and went into the ocean. Can't think of another way it'd double back over land again and into another body of water so far off course.
Gotta be some holes in that, but I'm thinking that sort of explanation is more likely than foul play.
RustyNails
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What do you mean?
Actually that was probably his point.
Squirrel Killer
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I always roll my eyes at some of the attitudes displayed here whenever some big event occurs. Not to defend the ongoing search or anything, perhaps there have been some mistakes, but people, this shit is hard. Let's give you some conflicting data points and a big fucking ocean and see how quickly you find the needle in the haystack, even with a ton of eyeballs. This isn't CSI where it gets wrapped up by the top of the hour.
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Guardian is live again. http://www.theguardian.com/world/blog/2014/mar/12/mh370-search-continues-amid-confusion
Ollie Pooch
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It's weird that they report this stuff, when their own story then seems to suggest that this this data being sent isn't unusual at all:
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That wasn't the point. The point is that there is data that the Malaysians officials didn't apparently look at.
I'm pretty sure if random website has the info then the airlines flying said planes have that info.
Obviously. More worried about the people who may be flying on one of these soon, just a friendly heads up.
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Edit: Anyway, OT. So now they're halting the search because they have no idea where this plane is? I swear this plane just landed on some island somewhere and these people are hopefully alive and well.
That info's pretty old. I saw it a while back on some other forums covering the topic.
Vietnam is halting. And the 777 has two* accidents with fatalities in its history, I'll fly on it without fear any day of the week. One of them was pilot error and we are still waiting on the cause of the second.
*Assuming this one is fatal.
How can you call it a friendly heads up when you're actually just trying to scare people needlessly? How many hundreds of thousands of 777s have flown without issue before this freak accident occurs and suddenly everyone needs to be wary about flying?
SwiftDeath
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Doesn't seem like a good idea give out your name and passport number to the internet
Wonder if its real/relevant
Looks like shit is getting real.
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I found two different oil rigs when looking at the tomnod maps. Lost track of them.
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Problem is the tomnod site doesn't tell you where you are:/
edit: Found the oil rig again. No way to know if it's the same.
It's stupid this site doesn't tell where you are, like it's a game.
I couldn't find a good map showing the flight path. Some of them have it fly over Cambodia, which obviously doesn't cooperate with his story.
speculawyer
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That is far from where they are looking.
Wow. It is amazing that a massive Jumbo Jet can get completely lost in 2014 when it is only a few hundred miles from shore. (I'd understand out in the middle of the ocean.)
Seems like the Malaysian government is extremely incompetent.
The lack of details given at the start, telling one of the passport holders looking like Mario Balotelli and mixed messages that the plane has turn back or turned west into the Malacca straits is extremely confusing and unprofessional.
smh how they are handling it.
The lack of details given at the start, telling one of the passport holders looking like Mario Balotelli and mixed messages that the plane has turn back or turned west into the Malacca straits is extremely confusing and unprofessional.
smh how they are handling it.
Now sure how genuine this is
http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/malaysia-airlines-loses-contact-with-flight-march-8-2014/
Insane Metal
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Holy crap, this gets more fucked up by the hour.
last known location and the oil rig
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=8.37...304,-74.724323&sspn=5.245695,7.064209&t=h&z=4
If the oil rig guy did see the plane, then plane is in the South China Sea and everyone is/was searching the wrong place.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=8.37...304,-74.724323&sspn=5.245695,7.064209&t=h&z=4
If the oil rig guy did see the plane, then plane is in the South China Sea and everyone is/was searching the wrong place.
Laughing Banana
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This is such a bizzare viewpoint.
What happens if one of those attractive ladies turned out to have malicious motives and you just gave them access to the cockpit?
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EatChildren
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The ocean is very, very large and very, very deep, and a commercial aircraft is comparatively very, very small. Finding pieces of the aircraft would not be easy, worsened in difficulty by pinpointing the exact crash location without having a concrete trajectory, and unreliable movement of the fragments (sinking depth, current spread, damage, etc).
I still feel that information may exist, or is being collated and analysed, by the military, investigators, and airline that isn't being made public for sensitivity issues. If indeed they are unsure of what took the plane down they'd have to be logically considering all options, such as a hijacking or structural issues. And in both of these cases there would be parties involved that would want to keep details, if just speculation, private for as long as possible.
But as far as the public is concerned the whole situation is a mess. A big empty mess.
I still feel that information may exist, or is being collated and analysed, by the military, investigators, and airline that isn't being made public for sensitivity issues. If indeed they are unsure of what took the plane down they'd have to be logically considering all options, such as a hijacking or structural issues. And in both of these cases there would be parties involved that would want to keep details, if just speculation, private for as long as possible.
But as far as the public is concerned the whole situation is a mess. A big empty mess.
cardinalmind
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So the theory now is the plane crashed / landed near the west of my country (Philippines), then it should have been spotted by now since that's near the hotly contested Spratly / Paracel / Whatever its called in China Islands. That area is also a major shipping route so there should be witnesses if that was the location.
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