The other messageboard I'm on that's covering this says that it's possible this could be a ship's liferaft or a plane's so they need verification first. That being said, SMH at them dropping the liferaft into the ocean "accidentally."
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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The other messageboard I'm on that's covering this says that it's possible this could be a ship's liferaft or a plane's so they need verification first. That being said, SMH at them dropping the liferaft into the ocean "accidentally."
JetBlackPanda
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That raft picture is interesting. Aircraft life rafts kind of look like that and some say "boarding" on them like that.
No idea what a standard Boeing one looks like though.
Could even be from a ship.
How did they let it sink? WTF!
No idea what a standard Boeing one looks like though.
Could even be from a ship.
How did they let it sink? WTF!
FrostuTheNinja
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They, they let it sink?
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JetBlackPanda
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As a Kiwi, I would say he's likely telling the truth. We're a small country and someone wouldn't make up stuff like this just for lols. People would mock the shit out of him. Whether it was a plane he saw though and not something else remains to be seen.
davepoobond
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It sank when they tried to get it onboard?
Deaf Spacker
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Holy shit, the level of incompetence is mind blowing.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
Yeah, I'm no meteorologist or expert in smoke-plumes-appearing-on-weather-satellite-imagery, but I find the theory that this is a smoke plume caused by a burning airliner to be extremely dubious. The guy compares it to smoke from a forest fire, but I'd wager the forest fires he's thinking of are huge, covering many acres of land. I can't imagine that a burning airplane--regardless how large--could produce something like that.
How much oil/fuel did the plane still have? That could possibly start a massive fire that would burn for a while even on water.
Maninthemirror
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Could it be
The plane was hijacked and turned back to the capital, malaysia thought it was a suicide mission, had the plane shot down by its Air Force and now the government is covering its bases ?
The plane was hijacked and turned back to the capital, malaysia thought it was a suicide mission, had the plane shot down by its Air Force and now the government is covering its bases ?
Freaky Fred
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That raft looks more like something a maritime vessel would use than a plane
e: http://assets.nydailynews.com/polop...erivatives/landscape_635/usa-crash-asiana.jpg
e: http://assets.nydailynews.com/polop...erivatives/landscape_635/usa-crash-asiana.jpg
Exactly. To give it more scale reference, the state of Rhode Island is 37 miles across. A smoke-plume of that size is pretty large. It would need a large fuel supply burning at a high intensity.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
I don't know. But even if there were a massive fire that produced so much smoke that it appeared on weather satellite imagery, the shape of the formation wouldn't make sense. Did the plane execute what appears to be a 180 degree turn while on fire? Did the wind direction shift to blow smoke south, then west, then back north? I don't find that plausible (though, again, I'm not an expert on the subject).
Based on my lay experience of watching clouds form on Doppler radar while living in Tornado Alley, my first thought is that it just looks like clouds forming.
and they are only checking it today? thought the NZ guy tried to contact them on the first day?
Boogalogist
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Intentionally incompetent....the plot thickens...
probably both. Take picture of raft, then conveniently say it sank so it cant be verified.
ostrichKing
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He probably did...but like any incident like this...I'm sure authorities get hundreds if not thousands of false reports of information that they have to sift through. This may be false as well...but it's the most legit thing I've heard since the search began.
Ollie Pooch
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I dunno...
This says 'boarding station' on it too, from the looks.
The incompetence of this whole thing is just unbelievable - how do they let something like that sink!?!
Has to be incompetence. I mean, they hired a fucking shaman to make a prediction.
Come on.
OT: I just started working in Malaysia for the past month... been working in Australia the last 8 years, and all i can say for the subcontractors that work with us (and not necessarily all Malaysian, but Bangladeshi, Indo, Filipino) that a lot of people just don't give a shit about their job. Get paid, go home. I've had problems with the roof contractor (twice), floor renderer, wall plastering, plumber u name it, call them back, they get embarrassed a bit, try to fix it, quality not right, fix again etc.
Anyways I'm not saying the rest of Malaysia is like this, but this is what I deal with at work. It's basically the same frustration.
PS - Malaysia is a nice country, just can get frustrating...
they left it really late. smh.
My guess is whatever they had tied to on the raft (article said they tied it to the boat) tore through as they were trying to get it out. Remember this is a damaged life raft full of water, it would weigh a heap and would be dragging in the water. It would've sunk like a rock as soon as it lost its tether.
It sounds like it was filling up with water so they tied it to the boat. Very little chance it would hold air at that point.
Ollie Pooch
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Yeah, but didn't they find it floating? But see your point. Probably pretty huge too.
ostrichKing
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Where they say they found the raft is WAY south and near heavily populated areas...much closer to where they took off...that combined with people online saying it looks more like a maritime raft makes me think this is nothing...
Unless as someone said, they were trying to get back to KL...but that raises even more questions and concerns...I don't think this raft is anything...
Unless as someone said, they were trying to get back to KL...but that raises even more questions and concerns...I don't think this raft is anything...
I don't mean to sound like an elitist, backstabbing prick, but having spent 26 years in the country and raging at everything from education to office conditions, to services/infrastructure, to politics, to the people themselves (who basically are all assholes and will double park or cut queues without any shred of guilt)
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And as much vitriol I appear to have towards my home country, this report filled me with amusement rather than disgust or malice
When you think about it, this means some people must have been spending an indeterminate number of hours poring over Google Maps.
Fjolle
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It is also one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.
PeakPointMatrix
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I'm getting a conspiracy theory vibe here with posters saying the Malaysian authorities "accidentally" lost the raft, or they are changing their answers, and I just have to ask... What the is the train of logic here? Why the hell would the Malaysian government want to hide this or cover up this plane crash? Some of you almost seem giddy at the chance to label what is most likely incompetence as a government cover-up. What is the motive?
They did find it floating, I just figure the reason the crew of the boat couldn't bring it on board was that it was too heavy as it was damaged and had taken on water.
I think that liferaft is just one of these:
http://www.crew-safe.co.uk/acatalog/Seago-ISO-Liferaft.html
http://www.crew-safe.co.uk/acatalog/Seago-ISO-Liferaft.html
I can't tell if you're agreeing with my comment or not. I was a bit harsh, and sounds like I'm condemning my new country as a whole. I'm not, or I don't want to at least. And not finding the missing flight has got nothing to do with my work (that's why I labelled it OT).
But I just wanted to point out, that the way Malaysia operates is really different to say the US or UK or Australia, and so even though this has been an international incident for the past week, the way the Malaysians carry out their work have all been conducted in the only way they know how, because they probably haven't been put in the international spotlight like this. So that's probably why I (from Australia) and others are shaking our heads at a lot of the things going on because we would have done it differently.
It was an extremely long-winded way of me saying "your criticisms are totally warranted".
Boogalogist
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To move international's prying eyes away from the case where the main opposition is jailed for sodomy
(again)
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Malaysia is making themselves look like some sort of a weird parody country
"We found evidence"
"Throw it over here! We'll catch it!
....
Whoops!"
"We found evidence"
"Throw it over here! We'll catch it!
....
Whoops!"
From what I understand, China and Vietnam have been working fairly hard to find the missing aircraft. Vietnam has been searching pretty hard along its coasts and China has deployed 10 satellites to look over the area. I think Malaysia isn't cooperating very well with other countries though since noone seems to know where to look for the missing aircraft with Vietnam even getting fed up and quitting S&R efforts until they get better information.
as an expat, i wouldn't trust the malaysian government to find its collective way out of a paper bag.
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