Probably the inbuilt EPIRB. All commercial aircraft have them to trace them in the unlikely event this happens
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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Probably the inbuilt EPIRB. All commercial aircraft have them to trace them in the unlikely event this happens
Local media reports which were subsequently denied by Vietnamese officials according to Reuters.
this fucking terrifies me
im taking my first flight in like 6 years and my first over water in june when i go to hawaii
stats i know i know
condolences to the families
I booked a flight recently and it is a night time flight. More chances of crashing at night
Good news is there will be 50,000+ flights that day and non of them will crash.
brochiller
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I hope so but apparently the chances of success for water landings are very slim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing#Commercial_aircraft
Twilight Gap
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I don't have much optimism after watching some of those videos. The hudson landing happened in a matter of minutes. If this plane really did go down in the ocean and they survived the crash, they'd need to have found some land to wait on. Hours passing without even their whereabouts being known isn't a good sign.
DrForester
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A big thing to remember about the Hudson is that the water was very calm. And ocean is going to have waves and really never be level.
27 is crazy young to be an F.O. for a 777. I'd be surprised if any American carriers have any 777 F.O.s that are below 40, the way the Unions seniority works.
Also, while Sullenberger executed perfectly, there are a ton of variables completely out of the pilots control. My brother is an A320 pilot and was telling me that no matter how good you are and how perfectly you ditch, the plane has a chance of rolling over and things get ugly. Jetliners just aren't designed for water landings.
Agreed. Being a first officer on a regional is one thing at the age of 27 but on a plane this size and an international flight/airline. That's unprecedented.....at least in the states, and I'd imagine many other western countries.
Not likely. That plane was messed up right after take off, so was not very high or going very fast. This plane dropped from 10's of thousands of feet going at a high speed.
The same website that reported the plane landed safely, has reportedly gotten the list of people on the flight.. Images can be found in the link.
http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.html
http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.html
I'm not sure that needs to be posted. Has there been confirmation that next of kin have all been notfied?
Nightengale
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It's a difficult situation to describe, but to sum it up, Malaysia has a dearth of high-quality talent in all industries, we're bleeding talent out of the country, and throw in a heavy dose of racial preferential treatment...
Mind you, I'm not suggesting Hamid is incompetent,unfit or obtained his position via nepotism. But the situation of younger people in positions normally reserved for more senior people are a culmination of many socio-economic and political issues in our country.
What about the plane that crashed into the ocean and the whole thing was recorded on a GO PRO?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QguEfBMhpyc
Yeah, I'm not drawing any conclusions based on the F.O.'s age. These jets practically fly themselves. To go dark with no distress call at cruising altitude means this was a sudden catastrophic event.
That is a tiny plane....nothing like the one that is in this situation.
Colonel_Forbin
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this fucking terrifies me
im taking my first flight in like 6 years and my first over water in june when i go to hawaii
stats i know i know
condolences to the families
I booked a flight recently and it is a night time flight. More chances of crashing at night
I like dice games. Here's an attempt to put this in perspective. If you had a die with 250,000 sides, and you rolled it eight times, it's more likely to roll 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, than it would for you to be in an aircraft accident.
All airlines are well oiled machines that put safety first.
The Lone Courier
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My heart goes out to the families. Hope they find some survivors.
Edit: Sorry, don't want to derail the thread.
Edit: Sorry, don't want to derail the thread.
Aesius
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You're going to cancel the flight because one plane out of millions that fly each year happened to crash today?
Play-Stay-Tion
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wat because of this accident?
Size matters. The 777's stall speed is probably at least twice that of the Cessna's. So think of that GoPro crash if the plane was going twice as fast on impact.
Flying to Japan in April. Definitely not canceling my flight. Can't live in fear. This is tragic to say the least. And of course, it's scary as hell. But the reality is, you have a much higher chance of dying DAILY from multiple activities. Do I...stop living, because I might die?
So frustrating to see human cognitive bias on display.
RIP and my condolences to all the relatives, it's highly unlikely that anyone survived this crash though
I don't care for the statistics, 95% of my driving is in the city never exceeding 35-40 mph at most, I also don't drive much at all at night, when the drunks are on the road, and I'm in a modern safe car. When you take all that into account, driving might be statistically safer for me. Speed is what pushes machinery to the limit, decelerating from high speeds is what has devastating effects on the human body, so I'll always feel safer at slower speeds like in a car over a plane. Altitude doesn't even factor into my fear, in fact it's obviously better in the air as you're not likely to hit something compared to the ground, my fear is the excessive speed and the stressing of machinery and structure that comes when you're converting large quantities of energy into motion.
However I am used to turbulence and that never really scares me anymore. A plane is just like a boat, it's turbulence is just waves in the air that you can't see unlike water.
I hope this is not a mechanical issue in the 777, as my parents are flying in one next month.
Just to put into perspective how many people is 239, here is a RIP for all of them:
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I don't care for the statistics, 95% of my driving is in the city never exceeding 35-40 mph at most, I also don't drive much at all at night, when the drunks are on the road, and I'm in a modern safe car. When you take all that into account, driving might be statistically safer for me. Speed is what pushes machinery to the limit, decelerating from high speeds is what has devastating effects on the human body, so I'll always feel safer at slower speeds like in a car over a plane. Altitude doesn't even factor into my fear, in fact it's obviously better in the air as you're not likely to hit something compared to the ground, my fear is the excessive speed and the stressing of machinery and structure that comes when you're converting large quantities of energy into motion.
However I am used to turbulence and that never really scares me anymore. A plane is just like a boat, it's turbulence is just waves in the air that you can't see unlike water.
I hope this is not a mechanical issue in the 777, as my parents are flying in one next month.
Just to put into perspective how many people is 239, here is a RIP for all of them:
RIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIPRIP
rokkerkory
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Kacho
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Sad. RIP
MiniBossBattle
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No... I was hoping for a redirect to a remote runway.
Cloud Strife
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FUCK
warningjab
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RIP.
Not really surprising, but damn. R.I.P. x 239
BWJinxing
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good luck to the families.
personally flying makes me uneasy. all the safety and statistics dont help. heights and lack of control in all aspects other then choosing your ticket eats me. id rather take my chances with driving if it were just as possible to reach by car / economical.
that way you can also actually see scenery.
personally flying makes me uneasy. all the safety and statistics dont help. heights and lack of control in all aspects other then choosing your ticket eats me. id rather take my chances with driving if it were just as possible to reach by car / economical.
that way you can also actually see scenery.
FrostuTheNinja
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I can't even begin to imagine being a family member in this whole thing. Terrible.
Every oceanic crash I've ever heard of has been entirely lethal without survivors
I'm just hoping against hope. You're more than likely going to be proven right though. So sad.
Aesius
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The scenery from airplanes is the most majestic thing you'll ever see in your life.
I've only had one cross-continental flight. From Detroit to London. I will never, ever forget flying over Greenland and seeing the scenery below. Incredible.
Every oceanic crash I've ever heard of has been entirely lethal without survivors
This will cheer you up then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_6
That's what I immediately thought when they kept saying that there was no distress signal and that they just dropped off of the radar.
Of course, I kept hearing that they weren't flying over water, either.
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