Um, I'm going to assume that a facility like this has defenses like radar and SAMs, and being that there is no civilian airport there, there would be no reason that an airliner approaching it would be a normal and innocuous occurrence.
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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ramuh
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I remember seeing a BBC thing a few days ago that said all the communications run on ten different generators through out the plane. Major redundancies. Usually something catastrophic/deliberate manipulation/complete mechanical failure has to take place to completely rid of communications.
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Oh yeah, except that it makes sense since you could already imagine how the US would be in deep trouble if it had to take down an airplane full of passengers because its base on the other side of the planet rumored to be used by the CIA was targeted.
That's exactly the kind of target or situation they would want to put the US in.
Like I said, just an interesting theory he gave me while we were talking about it. I'm not saying it's true or that was the motive, but with a lack of anything concrete, you try and find possibilities based on the facts that are out there.
that's kinda in bad taste imo
The left two characters just say China. I have no idea what the right side is even supposed to be, too stylized. Seeing as how it's the Malaysian flag, I'm gonna guess that it's just "Malaysia" in Mandarin script.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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If it was headed to the base the group that planned it wouldve taken responsibility by now?
Not only that but I would have assumed that they would strike quick. I'm pretty sure the countries with the proper technology are on high alert.
what? no
why would they reveal themselves?
if it was headed to a base, what they would want everyone believing is that it already crashed due to some mechanical failure
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Maybe not, because it didn't achieve its goal; it didn't hurt the US, it only killed innocent people, a lot of them Chinese. They would not want to attract attention from intelligence agencies until a successful attack.
Hard to do that when there's no real sign of a crash. As of now it's considered missing. If that was the hijackers intention then they've failed at that.
It is.
I have no clue whether there even is hijackers, let alone what their intentions were/are
I was merely suggesting that if they have not yet accomplished their goal, they would not be claiming responsibility yet
btw, as someone who has been watching this in the news non stop since day 1, up until pretty much the press conference last night every major news outlet was still subtly implying/suggesting it crashed
exactly
Catchpenny
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NY Times reported the US investigators were focusing on the southern corridor as well. The question is, does the US have additional intelligence to support this? Or is it based on confidence that the 777 couldn't have taken the Asia route undetected?
Well, I still maintain the position that it crashed. I'm only saying that if there were hijackers involved and they had malicious intentions that they would have striked by now. They've given countries room to monitor their air traffic.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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They would want to reveal the US shot down the hostages.
No, but here's a vid of a C-130 (much smaller and lighter than a 777) landing unassisted on a supercarrier :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfwJJD5jGXk&t=2m
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0097.shtml
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With no proof? Not really, they would probably prefer to try again. Terrorists tend to be rather patient if you have looked at known cases, especially when they have tried to target the US. Plus, it may have just run out of fuel, they have no idea really. Anyone can claim the US took down any plane, they would probably prefer to go back to the drawing board. This seems like it would have put the US in a very difficult situation, I can't even imagine the US pulling out of this without its image being impacted negatively regardless of what the response would have been. It seems like the kind of plan that would be their favorite in shoring up complaints against US military presence abroad.
If the plane was destined for that target it didn't reach. That would mean it crash somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
AudioTechnica
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The left side says 'China'. I'm guessing the right side says 'Malaysia' (it's a bit stylized). Doesn't seem to be anything particularly offensive or derogatory in that graffiti.
No, but here's a vid of a C-130 (much smaller and lighter than a 777) landing unassisted on a supercarrier :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfwJJD5jGXk&t=2m
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0097.shtml
Ha, that's pretty nuts!
But yeah no way could a 777 land on a carrier. Even if it could, it wouldn't be able to take off again.
My interpretation of the graffiti is that it's saying that the Illuminati sucked the missing plane up into a black hole in the sky.
PantherLotus
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Probably both, right?
Well they probably used arrester cables for the C-130 but anyway yeah... No way a triple 7 could land on a carrier. Heck it would probably be hard to crash on a carrer with a 777 lol.
SquiddyCracker
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Tragic event, I wonder if they'll ever find the wreck (if it went down over the ocean I imagine it might be like finding a needle in a hay sack).
What wreck?
That's what I thought at first, but the article mentions that they actually didn't.
SquiddyCracker
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... the plane?
Which no one has been able to contact for a week?
It is reasonable to assume it has crashed.
EDIT: Holy shit there are some crazy people in this thread.
Seriously?
bigwinnerx
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Stack. Sack would be pretty easy.
I see no reason to assume anything at this point. We simply don't have enough information.
:lol
Sectorseven
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Is there another press conference tonight?
I need answers. Seriously. I don't think my brain could handle the number of "what ifs" in this case. I'm usually pretty impervious to conspiracy nonsense, but this thing is nuts no matter how you look at it.
CHEEZMO
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More creative than some of the baseless insanity already pushed in this thread after people completely pulled it out of their deluded anuses?
It being hijacked [by x group] and flown somewhere before secretly landing so it can be loaded with North Korean nukes and then flown into the US? Like two thirds of the people in this thread need to stop posting and take their thorazine.
Razgriz-Specter
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My bad, not based but operations zone.
could be wrong on that though.
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The change of direction is pretty much a match for DG.
And it's exactly where the Pentagon said they were going to search; south Indian Ocean.
The change of direction is pretty much a match for DG.
And it's exactly where the Pentagon said they were going to search; south Indian Ocean.
It makes sense, but how did it then end up so far away? Did someone fight the hijackers?
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It makes sense, but how did it then end up so far away? Did someone fight the hijackers?
It's possible, or the info that has spread in the media about the radar ping is incorrect/misunderstood. We also don't know how the pilot would keep aim. It makes sense he turned the plane around to aim, then shut some things down to avoid detection, but this could have made it more difficult for him to direct the aircraft towards a precise location. Someone with aircraft knowledge would be better positioned to know. But again, maybe this whole radar ping thing isn't what it has been made out to be.
And saying the Pentagon is wrong is looking into the Indian Ocean is what?
I just can't understand why the plane was flown to the Indian Ocean unless there was a specific destination in that direction. If somebody wanted to bring it down they could have done so in the Pacific or even over Malaysia. It's quite possible that they got disoriented (especially at night) and got lost at sea, but the change in direction definitely indicates a destination and I hope we found out what that was.
Perhaps incorrect data was a reason the 1730pm presser was cancelled yesterday. Considering how careful the Malaysian authority has been on painstakingly verifying everything, an error of that magnitude might have needed at least a few hours more than when the presser was to re-consider everything.
On the flipside there -were- foreign embassy briefings about a possible landing at the border between China/Kyrgyzstan seems to support the satellite-derived two corridor theory, though.
I really hope they have a press conference today to clear up some of the questions that have developed over the past 30 hours.
On the flipside there -were- foreign embassy briefings about a possible landing at the border between China/Kyrgyzstan seems to support the satellite-derived two corridor theory, though.
I really hope they have a press conference today to clear up some of the questions that have developed over the past 30 hours.
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Problem with the satellite thing is it contradicts the turn-around info. That red line is close to where the plane was before it turned around. Why would the plane have turned around AGAIN to end up on the red line numerous hours later?
What are you even talking about? Obviously they have to map out the entire circumference of possibility. No one's saying the plane HAS to have landed where the line intersects Indonesia just because the line does go all the way up there.
There's speculation on motives, which we have zero facts, and there's the 8:11AM satellite ping, which HAS to be physical fact unless someone comes out and says that particular data is mistaken.
There's speculation on motives, which we have zero facts, and there's the 8:11AM satellite ping, which HAS to be physical fact unless someone comes out and says that particular data is mistaken.
toxicgonzo
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The destination is nowhere. There is nothing in the south Indian ocean. They wanted to crash the plane in the ocean and make sure it was never found. Why? Who knows why, for insurance money, spite for people, etc.
It may be the more boring theory since flying northwest leaves a lot of speculation about where they would try to land and who would do it.
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