Holy fucking shit....
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Man gets the knife attack after finding wife in bed with her father
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Holy fucking shit....
How many rapists do you know who drug their victims?
This thread is a cesspool.
Peace.
Monster Zero
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we don't know if she's been drugged or not. If we assume she's lying. Obviously I was being facetious
NobleGundam
Banned
Wow. Wtf indeed. Poor guy man..
entremet
Member
She did ask for a medical examination, which should include a bloodtest for toxicology and any funny business like quaaludes
CharminUltra
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Man, what a story. Way to end a long work day.
TimeEffect
Member
Yeah, this. It's the classic "walked in on my wife in bed" scenario, which usually is assumed to be consensual.
It just seems more likely to me that they have a relationship together. But seeing as she's insistent, it's even more horrible to imagine she was raped, because the scenario seems so bizarre...since she was eventually going to wake up, what did her father think would happen?
excelsiorlef
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Rape culture in a nutshell in this thread.
adamsappel
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Even if they have a consensual relationship, I can't believe that this was something that begin in adulthood (and I'm equally skeptical that this was a one-time drunken occurrence).
I think it's one thing to drink around your parents and drink with them but to "go out drinking" implies to me they are going to the club/bar specifically to drink/get tipsy.
Strange way to spend time together when the father hadn't been in her life for the last 20 years and she is 24.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I have to imagine the woman had to have been molested in the past by a father who was willing to drug or use her impaired state to rape her. I can't imagine a person willing to go as far as raping his own daughter would wait 24 years to act on those urges. Both father and daughter drinking excessively enough to become impaired wouldn't be a the type of activity that would uniquely occur at that age without some history... i doubt this was his first time. There may be a deeper history of abuse that just isn't touched on in this story
Monster Zero
Junior Member
The dude got locked up when she was 1, they're basically strangers.
Really fucked up situation. My brother in law's first wife had a fucked up childhood and issues with sexual relations with her father at a young age. It eventually caused divorce about 8 years ago because it happened again... no idea about how ongoing it was or wasn't, though.
He's just now got full custody of his 16 year old son too. Really worried about him... his mom had issues, even if it wasn't her fault :/ I'm not sure what exactly went down that finally let him get custody, but man... I can't imagine the dark shit I'm not privy to all around a situation like that.
He's just now got full custody of his 16 year old son too. Really worried about him... his mom had issues, even if it wasn't her fault :/ I'm not sure what exactly went down that finally let him get custody, but man... I can't imagine the dark shit I'm not privy to all around a situation like that.
adamsappel
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I don't know how I missed that. Still, even drunkenness and unfamiliarity can't excuse a father sleeping with his daughter.
IdreamofHIME
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This is a goddamn idiotic thing to say. Rape victims are thinking only of survival. Sometimes survival means going along with "cuddling" while you think of a way to get out of the situation.
Dad was in jail since she was 4. He just got out.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Yeah, there is literally no evidence to say she isn't telling the truth.
You have a strictly Biblical definition of rape then. Rape isn't just pillaging a woman in the alleyway. See my post above. Even if their situation isn't comparable to that, you're not allowing for any nuance with a narrow statement like that.
This is a fucked up, weird situation, and I have little doubt rape was involved, personally. Maybe not though. Who knows. But you can rape a person after going to drink with them, you know.
Damn.
The father is a scumbag in all this whether it was consensual or not.
To top it all off, he's the one who stabbed the husband and then stole his car.
GoldenEye 007
Member
When I first saw the story on FB, I did not notice the rape angle. I thought it was a cheating thing and the husband was attacked by the father in hopes of shutting him up about the relationship.
Now I see there was a possible rape. Definitely a different situation. Hopefully the investigation gets to the bottom of everything.
Now I see there was a possible rape. Definitely a different situation. Hopefully the investigation gets to the bottom of everything.
Mohonky
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I think the implication is that rapists dont usually hang out to get caught after the fact; meaning he either didn't believe it was rape or otherwise believed she was a willing participant.
So we're back at that chestnut; if both parties have been drinking, only the male is responsible? I'm sorry but both of them were out drinking. As weird and fucked up as this situation is, i still dont believe only one party has due responsibility.
blankempathy
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Theres a case to be made for why shes lying. First of all he was asleep since he was woken up by thr husband. Why would you fall asleep with your victim? Not to mention it was his daughter. If he wasnt drunk clearly he probably wouldnt want to be caught so he would of most likely tried to cover up the crime and not fall asleep with her. Or he could be really stupid or not care that he was caught but that makes less sense. You could argue that they both got wasted and fell asleep but why would she be naked? I mean i know alcohol messes with peoples heads but damn thats a crazy thing to happen. Or third it was consensual and shes now placing the entire blame on him to make herself look like a victim to save face. I guess we will see what happens.
Or he didn't think he was raping her like a GOOD amount of rapes that happen
User 100115
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Couting out her straight up lying, if the father had been abusing her her whole life, he'd have had her groomed long before now. In cases like that, the victim 'consents' because they've been trained to.
blankempathy
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Its his daughter. What kind of grown adult gets into bed with their grown naked child. That raises so many red flags.
I'm definitely getting the vibe that the girl hadn't seen her father in 20 years, wanted his love/attention and because of that didn't see the red flags. The girl probably didn't have typical father/daughter boundaries since they were practically strangers and the scumbag dad took advantage of that. I'm sure there's a scenario where the girl could of thought she was having a consensual sexual relationship with her father but because of the power dynamic it's still predatory on the fathers end like a teacher/student.
blankempathy
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Sadly thats probably the case and while shes possibly lying now shes probably been a victim from a young age.
entremet
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Father just got out a jail and was in jail for 20 years.
He was staying with the couple.
His daughter was 4 when he was last free.
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