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Man of Steel |OT| It's about action.
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Liquidsnake
Banned
I shed a tear. (true story)
This shit has been explained over and over in this thread, I feel like some of you didn't watch the god damn movie.
Conspiracy guy comes out on TV saying that Lois knows who Kal-El is, they take her to extract any information she may have... oh what do you know they get useful information out of her and head to Smallville
I love the imagery + music. But that was just Snyder beating us over the head lol
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
My only issue with it was
If Superman would be the first to make capes look cool, who was the boy impersonating?
But I guess it could have been errol flynn or something. Would have been cool to see who his inspiration was.
What I mean is that she says
like most things in the movie, the scene itself was great—how it was inserted into the movie was not.
"he already saw what kind of man you would be" (paraphrasing here), when it's clearly supposed to mean he knew clark would be a good person, not some dude who could fly around in a cape.
like most things in the movie, the scene itself was great—how it was inserted into the movie was not.
Ninja Scooter
Member
He original Green Lantern
Lol, good point.
I guess it could be Captain Marvel too if the Marvel comics exist in the DC universe. There's an argument.
Though he wouldn't have existed except for Supes, so. Green Lantern must exist in that universe. man.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Captain Marvel is a DC character.
EDIT: Unless you meant Marvel, as in Captain Marvel, comics. Not Marvel comics the publisher.
keltickennedy
Member
The krytonian codex made clark naturally gravitate towards capes....lol.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Fatman BB Bale > Cavill > TDKR Bale > Skinny TDK Bale
Saint Gregory
Member
I would have answered but AkuMifune answered for me.
It was over-foreshadowing in a flashback scene. Something that under normal circumstances should always be ridiculed and I'm glad that I was watching the film with an audience that recognized that so I wasn't the only dick laughing. It was a very sentimental visual message but unless Clark/Kal-El was imprinted with some kind of genetic memory of what his future costume would look like why would he have been cosplaying as himself?
It was too much, which unfortunately for Zack Snyder films lately is business as usual.
It was too much, which unfortunately for Zack Snyder films lately is business as usual.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Link to the spoiler thread 
For those who would wish that this thread stop looking like a Nixon transcript from 1973.
For those who would wish that this thread stop looking like a Nixon transcript from 1973.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
This shit Bale has done to his body through all sorts of movies is both amazing and scary as fuck.
MisterHero
Super Member
Obviously he's referrencing Marvel's Golden Age Angel
maybe he remembered that his dad wore a cape
Sir Alemeth
Member
Good point.
Saint Gregory
Member
Thanks, I honestly didn't know that there was one.Link to the spoiler thread
For those who would wish that this thread stop looking like a Nixon transcript from 1973.
I guess in that universe it never existed people with capes then, untill Superman.
Makes sense.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Yo dawg! I heard you like capes.
But I still don't buy that--unless we assume that no other caped heroes existed in this universe
Saint Gregory
Member
Did you miss the part where he also pretended to fly around for a bit and then struck the traditional Superman dramatic pose? I guess he could have been impersonating Dwight Howard. Also, the cape was RED.
Look, I feel bad because that scene obviously struck a chord with a lot of people but it was too much. The same emotional message could have been conveyed in a much less brute force way if the director respected the audience enough to not beat them over the head with it.
I wanna see the reciepts
exactly, the problem wasn't really the concept, just that it needed to be handled with a defter touch. the execution was just a bit off and forced.
Pop
Member
I wouldn't call him Fat at all.
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Man of Steel delivered. I thought it was great.
GhostRidah
Member
This made me spit out my coffee, lmao
Have you seen it yet?
Maybe if you overanalyze it while watching the movie or if you are not too into it but by that time in the movie when that sequence was on I felt so incredible and inspired by what I was seeing that all that stuff if it makes sense or not didn't even entered my mind.
I enjoyed and I got what the director tried to achieve, His father saw what Clark was going to become even at that small age, kinda like a nod to us, saying this IS Superman.
I enjoyed and I got what the director tried to achieve, His father saw what Clark was going to become even at that small age, kinda like a nod to us, saying this IS Superman.
Being almost at the very end made it even more powerfull, because we already saw him being Superman.
It worked for me.
reelbigtink
Member
I don't normally care about plotholes. As long as you get your idea across thematically it doesn't matter. Having said that, Man of Steel didn't quite succeed (for me) in getting its point across. Still enjoyed it enough to not regret buying the ticket, though.
Got my tickets for tonight. Still can't believe he's the "Do your worst!" kid from Count of Monte Cristo. I'm old :-(
I would have flipped my shit if Caviezel played Jor-El.
Got my tickets for tonight. Still can't believe he's the "Do your worst!" kid from Count of Monte Cristo. I'm old :-(
Omg I remember what a babe he was, cavil god keeps delivering.
He's using 20kg rubber bumper plates and the total weight is about 330 pounds (20x6 for the bumpers, 20x1 for the bar, 2x5 or so for the additional small plates). Most healthy adult males can deadlift that within 6 months of powerlifting training and eating right. His form's godawful, too; crazy rounded back, liable to shoot discs out of his spine at speed.
My core is fairly developed from powerlifting and martial arts, but if you were a 200 lb dude posting in fitness-gaf saying you had a 330 lb 1rm deadlift you'd get a golf clap and encouragement to get to 500 lbs next.
He looks nice. He's an actor who bulked for a role, probably on steroids (the only sensible thing to do in his position). He can't fly, either. Sorry to disappoint. ;b
Messypandas
Member
Caviezel was going to play Supes in Ratners version.
a step up from Jesus, Cav
greendomo's ghost
Member
FWIW He said in an interview that he didn't use steroids. He said something about not taking shortcuts because that's not what Superman would do...
Liquidsnake
Banned
I believe him. You can take all kinds of supplements, that can really bulk you up and cut you up. It doesn't always have to be roids or HGH. And I do not have a problem at all with actors doing this. If it was my job, I would too. Cavill is too young to need HGH. So maybe he was natural.
FallingEdge
Member
Wouldn't be surprised if it was HGH and tren. Regardless, it doesn't matter. A lot of actors go that route due to their strenuous schedule.
Not a god damn thing, that's what it's worth. Actors use roids, just like athletes.
GuitarAtomik
Member
1] This has already been explained already so I'm not going to bother.
2] How do you enjoy anything? Especially when you're not paying attention.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Banned
Plotholes in a superhero movie!? YOU DON'T SAY!!
The story is a mess because Goyer and Snyder are complete hacks when it comes to that stuff. Snyder did the action brilliantly and Goyer got all of the ideas right. But this movie solidified the fact that Snyder is one shitty director. It was all over the place. The flashback styled pacing of the story made little sense, and it feels like so much of it was left on the cutting room floor.
Amy Adams sucks, but everyone else isn't fine.
And am I the ONLY one that completely got sick of Snyder's complete overuse of the sudden zoom and refocus shit? I know he's going for that "it's a spectator filming on his handheld camera" shit, but it doesn't work and it was used far too often.
It was a good movie though, although I really do not understand the consensus of "too much action," when the movie is pretty tame during most of its entirety.
The story is a mess because Goyer and Snyder are complete hacks when it comes to that stuff. Snyder did the action brilliantly and Goyer got all of the ideas right. But this movie solidified the fact that Snyder is one shitty director. It was all over the place. The flashback styled pacing of the story made little sense, and it feels like so much of it was left on the cutting room floor.
Amy Adams sucks, but everyone else isn't fine.
And am I the ONLY one that completely got sick of Snyder's complete overuse of the sudden zoom and refocus shit? I know he's going for that "it's a spectator filming on his handheld camera" shit, but it doesn't work and it was used far too often.
It was a good movie though, although I really do not understand the consensus of "too much action," when the movie is pretty tame during most of its entirety.
Well I am not sure what to say. It was sort of good at certain moments but mostly mediocre. I felt like this film needed at least an extra hour or two or maybe three. Part of me thinks they didn't know what they wanted to do. They had one foot in sci-fi and one foot in comic books, if it was me I would have just gone full science fiction. The script is poor but at the same time I blame the director because the film needed someone to reign it in and make some tough choices about what to focus on. I may be the only person but I didn't care for the visuals. A lot of very obvious CG, I am numb to it, but I can see how some people enjoy it. Film didn't have much of a soul to me eventhough it genuinely tried.
edit: I would give it about a C+ grade but I can understand if some think it is a B-.
edit: I would give it about a C+ grade but I can understand if some think it is a B-.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Are you new to this? How the hell doesn't every person ever not know that Clark is Superman?
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
What kind of snob-ass place did you watch it that the audience laughed at awkward scene transitions? Did they play it at your film school or something?