Maninthemirror
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It was explained pretty well
the council rejected jor els claim that krypton was going to explode. This was further evidenced when jor els wife tells her robot that 'see jorel was right all along'
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It was explained pretty well
Dreams-Visions
Member
Why can't I find "This is Maddness!" The cadence on that track is ridiculous.
It's on CD2 of the Deluxe OST. Track #5.
You still have to deal with the fact that there were apparently no Kryptonians in space working or on spacefaring missions, no colonies anywhere, no capabilities for any of their ships to make it swiftly into space once shit started blowing up (which Zod's ship showed they were capable of) or literally zero advance warning, and you're still talking about Jor-el being the only person on an entire planet of highly advanced beings that saw it coming. Besides Zod I guess, but if the two of them knew, how come no one else did? How come they themselves didn't leave while they could? It was definitely established that there was time.
Regardless, it still falls into the ridiculous "TOLD YA SO" trope that fits fine into some situations in some movies (Die Hards, I Robot... Well, pretty much every dumb fun action movie ever), but doesn't match up when you're talking about a planet of of highly advanced beings letting themselves die.
also, who knows? Maybe some other Kryptonians took safety measures and survived... they might crop up in future movies (i.e. Brainiac? Bizzaro? Other kryptonian villains or friends--Kara?). You can't expect them to put all their cards on the table and show every survivor in the very first movie.
Yeah, that's something I considered, but looking at the civilization as a whole, you know what I mean.
Messypandas
Member
I haven't see it
but I presumed Jor-El wanted to send his son far away so he was safe from other Kryptonians. Isn't the whole reason Zod wants to kill him is because he was naturally birthed. I wouldn't be surprised if there was plenty of other colonies out there, perfect fodder for planetary exploration in sequels.
Maninthemirror
Banned
I'm gonna buy it tonight. It's Zimmer's best since Batman Begins. The score wasn't mixed well in the movie though
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I wondered about this as well. It's explained in the Silver Age comics pretty well-- Krypton developed spacecraft and explored, but eventually space travel became forbidden. I had wondered if if they woudl refence something like that in the movie, and I wonder if it got cut.
The shattered moon in Krypton's sky is tied into this silver-age aspect of Krypton.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
meh, people spoke yada yada...
all their outposts were dead and it seems they gave up on space travel, politics and all that.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I really enjoyed the movie. The action was fast-paced, but still maintained an element of realism. I didn't feel like, "this is wayyyyy fake" like I did with the Hobbit, for example. Very well done. Music was good, acting was mostly good (although Michael Shannon bothers me)
Its no Batman Begins, but definitely looking forward to the sequel.
Its no Batman Begins, but definitely looking forward to the sequel.
Dreams-Visions
Member
did you get the Deluxe? the second disc is excellent.
I'm waiting for the "Man of Steel is better than Batman Begins" thread and the "I enjoyed Catwoman more than Man of Steel" thread. Might have to give it until 2014.
I think MoS is way better than The Avengers, if that counts. Not BB though.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
I got that one in my pocket haha jk
fuck hurry up Thursday!
which theater are you going to?
So at my office they had the blood donor bus and were giving away fandango gift cards, so I went ahead and did it. I feel like shit now and my arm hurts but at least we are going to see MoS again for a couple of bucks. Let's go Saturday! I am just as pumped as I was last Friday.
Pop
Member
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Kips Bay Imax
Sadly not the Lincoln Square Imax, but all I see is 3D showing's there and I don't want to see it in 3D esp the first time.
Got my bro coming with me as well now, be curious to see what he thinks since he doesn't give a shit about Supes and loves Marvel. He does love Nolan's Bat films so I'm sure that's why he's willing to go lol
royalroyal
Member
Checking it out tonight, how is it on IMAX 3D (not lieMAX)? I thought star trek into darkness imax 3d was amazing btw.
Liquidsnake
Banned
I heard from a co worker that the 3D flight in this was really good.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
I got the book too today from amazon... of course I can't look at it yet
Love the embossed cover/S shield.I think there are a few reasons as to why this movie is so divisive:
1. Zach Snyder is always divisive. Watchmen? 300?
2. Realism. The realism seems to give the movie an unsentimental, humorless tone, relatively speaking
3. This superman doesn't represent the right version of Superman for many. The recurring complaint about MOS is that Superman doesn't seem to care about all the destruction around him AND he
. For many, this made it a bad movie
4. Action. Some love it, some don't and it seems to be 50/50 here when it comes to the spectacle delivered in MOS
1. Zach Snyder is always divisive. Watchmen? 300?
2. Realism. The realism seems to give the movie an unsentimental, humorless tone, relatively speaking
3. This superman doesn't represent the right version of Superman for many. The recurring complaint about MOS is that Superman doesn't seem to care about all the destruction around him AND he
kills Zod
4. Action. Some love it, some don't and it seems to be 50/50 here when it comes to the spectacle delivered in MOS
Ninja Scooter
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Podcast was great. I agree with some of their points even though Garman gets a little carried away with the Reeves/Donner nostalgia. That wasn't the end-all/be-all.
And if you haven't listened to it before, d/l the podcast from when Kevin Smith reviews Dark Knight Rises. Smith legit tears up talking about the scenes with Alfred and Bruce. It's hilarious.
lol. I thought the same thing when I saw the film. Not that it's a bad thing, great song.
More Antje Traue is missing.
Ninja Scooter
Member
he mentions
the polar bear, the spider thing and the robot guardians at the fortress of solitude that were in his script and said he thought they were fucking with him for a second
he generally likes the film though, realizes it can't be the same Superman from 30-40 years ago and enjoyed it for what it was. He seems more excited about it laying the groundwork for Justice League and Man of Steel 2 though.
Superman was created in a way that it's almost impossible to explain everything logically. Forget about the question of why no-on was able to escape Krypton, just stop and think: 'Why do Kryptonians look exactly like humans?' really? a planet, another species light years away resemble humans in every minute detail? There's a long list and so people can't go into a movie like MOS poking holes at anything that doesn't make sense; it's just an amalgamation of many many illogical/unexplainable things
WB keeps owning it, yet they allow the other ones to stay up. Conspiracy
I has the Deluxe CD though. Tis good
That is actually a great article. I didn't know Carla Gugino voiced the freaking robot.
Ready Up Already
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I just got back from Lincoln Square IMAX. The 3D was...unobtrusive, which is probably the best thing I can say about any post-converted film.
Lincoln Square IMAX also has reserved seating now, which is a godsend for getting the sweet spot of seats in that theater. Any decent seats are now taken through at least Thursday, though.
I saw Into Darkness in the same theater, and thought Man of Steel's 3D was better. Both great experiences, but to me, Trek was so busy on screen at all times that it was tough for me to focus with the 3D.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Thanks for the info. When I see it a second time it will be there. I was originally just going to see it there cause of like you said reserved seating, being the real Imax and the show times were better, but my bro gets sick watching any 3D so it will have to be another time for me.
Freaking Kips Bay only has one show time playing on regular Imax and it's 3pm, one showing on that screen all day. I swear the way the movie is being shown in the city is strange.
VistraNorrez
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Just got back from seeing it. It was okay, not sure what there is to love about it. I think I just have problems with the Superman character and universe from the get go, and superhero movies only appeal to me if I enjoy the characters I'm watching. There are just no real stakes and I've just seen too many to trick my mind to go with it. The drama was just utterly inert. It probably doesn't help that I just saw Before Midnight last Friday and I can't stop thinking about it.
I don't want to take anything away from those that enjoyed it, but one of things that bothered me was how
I don't want to take anything away from those that enjoyed it, but one of things that bothered me was how
when Zod told Supes straight up all he wanted to do was kill him, that Supes didn't immediately take the fight away from civilization. Superman knows he's endangering people's lives by fighting Zod in metropolis. Just get out of there. Zod seemed pretty willing to follow you.
But I love his visual gimmicks!