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Man of Steel |OT| It's about action.
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Bobby Roberts
Banned
Fuck it, let's do this.
1: Superman: The Movie
2: Man of Steel
3: Superman II
4: Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
5: Superman Returns
6: Superman vs. the Elite
7: Superman III
8: Superman Unbound
9: All-Star Superman
10: Superman: Doomsday
11: Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
1: Superman: The Movie
2: Man of Steel
3: Superman II
4: Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
5: Superman Returns
6: Superman vs. the Elite
7: Superman III
8: Superman Unbound
9: All-Star Superman
10: Superman: Doomsday
11: Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
1. Superman: The Movie
2. Man of Steel
3. Superman II
4. All Star Superman
5. Superman vs. The Elite
6. Superman Returns
50. The rest
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
1. Heavyweights
2. Zoolander
3. There's Something About Mary
4. Happy Gilmore
5 Everything else
2. Zoolander
3. There's Something About Mary
4. Happy Gilmore
5 Everything else
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Two of those movies don't even HAVE Ben Stiller in them, you dingus.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Blockbuster: Something, such as a film or book, that sustains widespread popularity and achieves enormous sales.
Sales:
Popularity:
You may have liked it, but it wasn't a blockbuster in any real sense of the word.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Which ones?
Meus Renaissance
Member
A better question would be what would the gap be in-between your first three selections.
Discotheque
Banned
Ben Stiller is all over the masterpiece heavyweights
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
1: Superman: The Movie
2: Man of Steel
3: Superman II
4: Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
5. All-Star Superman
6: Superman Returns
7.Superman vs. the Elite
8.Superman Unbound
9.Superman: Doomsday
10. Superman III
11: Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
12.Superman: Brainiac Attacks
2: Man of Steel
3: Superman II
4: Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
5. All-Star Superman
6: Superman Returns
7.Superman vs. the Elite
8.Superman Unbound
9.Superman: Doomsday
10. Superman III
11: Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
12.Superman: Brainiac Attacks
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah, the definition of "blockbuster" has morphed to become a STYLE of movie, as opposed to what it's original definition was.
Blockbuster simply means the movie made a ton of money. That a specific style of movie makes that money more consistently has caused the term to morph into meaning "Big flashy summer action movie."
Shit, I meant three. Dunno why I brainfarted, Stiller in Heavyweights is fucking hilarious.
Blockbuster simply means the movie made a ton of money. That a specific style of movie makes that money more consistently has caused the term to morph into meaning "Big flashy summer action movie."
Shit, I meant three. Dunno why I brainfarted, Stiller in Heavyweights is fucking hilarious.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
What movie isn't he in, Bobby?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Citizen Kane, for one.
Meus Renaissance
Member
Why do you gentlemen prefer the original Donner film over Man of Steel?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
That's what I thought. WHO'S THE DINGUS NOW, FATBOY? WHO!
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I can assure you Pacific Rim is a blockbuster movie no matter how much it makes at the box office
Wat? I buy all my movies from amazon
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
People are becoming pedantic. Everytime you see somebody say 'blockbuster', pretend they said 'tentpole'. Then go jerk off on your latest copy of Variety.
Pretty much. Its obvious what anyone means when they use the term.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I just recently got Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Miller's Crossing, and Fargo, all brand new, for $20 on Amazon.
Also got that Bond 50 set for $100 from Amazon.
On any given weekend they'll have at least 40 bonafide classics for sale under $10 on blu-ray.
Amazon is GREAT.
Hell, a few months ago, I picked up Superman: The Movie on blu for $9.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Yeah, Pacific Rim looks fantastic to me. I really hope Del Toro delivers on it, and I hope it makes buttloads of money so that more giant robo movies get made.
I love the original Donner Superman for all it's sincerity, emotion, and class, but it's an entirely different entity compared to Man of Steel. Honestly if MoS had been better in the areas we've all debated about for the past dozen pages or so, it would most likely be my favorite Superman film by a wide margin. As it is, MoS just left me wanting and I didn't enjoy as much as I should have. Donner's original is always a fun movie to watch, I'd say that's why I'd prefer it over MoS.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Basically what Mengy said: Superman: The Movie succeeds more at doing what it's trying to do than Man of Steel did. They're trying to do different things, definitely, but Superman: The Movie gets there more often than Man of Steel does.
Lionel Mandrake
Member
I think it's really cool that Guillermo Del Toro made a movie just for me. That was really nice of him.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
At least people are putting Superman: The Movie on top. Like it should be.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Man of steel is like superman 1 and 2 in one movie which means we will be in unprecedented territory in mos 2
I think Man of Steel is pretty comparable to Superman: The Movie. They both accomplish the same things, and are hindered by the same weaknesses, just tailored for different eras. But MoS is both as good and bad as Donner's Superman.
This seems about right. Even Superman Returns achieves what it tries to do. What it's trying to do sucks balls, but it achieves it.
Future Foundation
Member
I remember laughing at the "o shit" the pilot lets out before Supes steps in.
Yup, you gotta watch crap before you can appreciate something good.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
So I should watch Man of Steel before Dredd and Speed Racer? Got it.
Jables Swan
Member
Save yourself the trouble and give them all a miss.
Nice.
Speed Racer is awesome. Its like a popsicle for your eyes. Never understood the hate for that movie.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Fucking A! Speed Racer kicked ass.
And it has some real ass emotional moments too. No one ever mentions how good the characters are. It's the perfect family movie. If you feel nothing during the first and last races you're dead inside, I don't care who you are.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I just realized that your "mister negative" tag is gone. The power of Speed Racer?
And some good martial arts sequnces. Speed Racer was fantastic.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That was part of the reason it was rejected. Actually, there were multiple reasons.
1) Speed Racer had no real cultural cachet at the time
2) The Wachowskis were coming off really bad buzz
3) Nobody was checking for them to make a family film
4) People heard it was long
5) People saw that it was "fake."
All that shit is varying degrees of unfair, as not a lot of people really judged the movie on its own merits. Yeah, some saw the movie and still wrote it off, and it doesn't work on all quadrants equally, but I think a lot of people weren't willing to let go of their armfuls of one-liners to let the movie be its own thing.
It was essentially a case of a whole bunch of people deciding it'd be more fun to turn Speed Racer into a punchline than to actually watch Speed Racer.
1) Speed Racer had no real cultural cachet at the time
2) The Wachowskis were coming off really bad buzz
3) Nobody was checking for them to make a family film
4) People heard it was long
5) People saw that it was "fake."
All that shit is varying degrees of unfair, as not a lot of people really judged the movie on its own merits. Yeah, some saw the movie and still wrote it off, and it doesn't work on all quadrants equally, but I think a lot of people weren't willing to let go of their armfuls of one-liners to let the movie be its own thing.
It was essentially a case of a whole bunch of people deciding it'd be more fun to turn Speed Racer into a punchline than to actually watch Speed Racer.
brandonh83
Banned
I think I'm seeing this tomorrow. Something came up today, blocking my time in the sun.
I liked Dawn of the Dead. I hated 300. I hated Watchmen. I hated Legend of the Guardians.
Should be interesting!
I liked Dawn of the Dead. I hated 300. I hated Watchmen. I hated Legend of the Guardians.
Should be interesting!
go jett go!
That digital one-shot fight in the mountains is probably the best of its kind.
Sadly this happens with a lot of stuff. I've actually managed to convert a couple of people with SR, just by convincing them to give the movie a chance.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's got more in common with Dawn of the Dead (believe it or not) visually/stylistically than any of the others.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Too bad the script is worse in MOS than it is in Dawn of the Dead.
brandonh83
Banned
I didn't expect to hear that.
Perhaps "hate" is too strong a word for Watchmen. It was pretty well made and seemed to be like this perfect adaptation of the source material (aside from the giant squid shit, whatever the hell that was all about). But I was so uninterested in anything about it. Story, characters, action didn't do anything for me at all.
After rewatching Dawn, I agree. It's like he went back to his roots in a way.