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The thing with Shonen is that it relies heavily on its structure and end goal

When you try to expand the story and/or add extra enemies and end goals it becomes inconsistent with the overall plot therefor creating plot holes and filler like moments


You know when the author is trying to milk the moment


An example is this arc in Bleach

You have great parts that stay connected to the plot... Parts in which people where waiting to happen


Rukia and Renji unleashing their Bankai was great... Having good enemies that don't feel like fodder is great (burn finger dude)


But then you also have parts where you know it is just extra filler nonsense like those enemy girls


You have Ichigo who we've been waiting for having his reintroduction ruined by fighting some non significant enemies that are just there to waste time



With Naruto... There is this whole space speculation (which is likely not going to happen I hope) going on but in all honesty that is completely out of place with the over all plot and world

If Kishi hinted this multiple volumes ago then okay it would lead people to expect it or even be excited for it but if you introduce a new enemy a few chapters back and then later make it as the main enemy (or even the end enemy of everything) then that's just BS
 
Wow Shokugeki no Soma 73 Raw is not for the faint of heart:

Erina's assistant for her dish takes a
live turtle cuts its head off in front of everyone. Then pours wine in the hole where the head use to be then opens up the turtle to get its guts

Nice
Never even cared for her in the past but damn


One of my top faves now... Brutal
 

Stage On

Member
With Naruto... There is this whole space speculation (which is likely not going to happen I hope) going on but in all honesty that is completely out of place with the over all plot and world

If Kishi hinted this multiple volumes ago then okay it would lead people to expect it or even be excited for it but if you introduce a new enemy a few chapters back and then later make it as the main enemy (or even the end enemy of everything) then that's just BS

But she wasn't just introduced, They first mentioned her in chapter 646 which was over 30 chapters ago
 

scy

Member
Tora Kiss 22 - Giant jellyfish monster.

I know exactly where this is going.

New Prince of Tennis 125 - ...so wait, does this just throw like the entirety of the manga out the window?
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
But she wasn't just introduced, They first mentioned her in chapter 646 which was over 30 chapters ago

That's not exactly enough time to set up a twist like this properly, considering how long the series has been running and its general pacing.
 
But she wasn't just introduced, They first mentioned her in chapter 646 which was over 30chapters ago
this is the point


An example of a good villain overlord is having them teased throughout the series until their major reveal and surprise twist afterwards



Example being


Joa from Toriko (being known as the dark chef and jester... Eventually turning out to be a Frohze look a like) and others that people could likely point out
 
Oh Zeref in FT was also teased throughout...


Naruto changed around its villains


Had something with the Akatsuki for awhile good hints and eventual twist with Tobi but then burnt out with Obito and began to digress
To what it is now

It felt as if afterwards Naruto was just in for a ride following destiny rather then his dreams/end point and meeting new random villains (who weren't as developed before their major super re-reveal) along they way
 

upandaway

Member
Taiyou no Ie 41-42

So yeah, um.

This.

I'm gonna go drink some water.

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(phew. retcon:)

Taiyou no Ie (caught up)

I'm smiling so hard that it's starting to hurt a bit. Something about this is super super super super feel good and it feels good and it makes me feel good. So I guess I should say, I feel pretty good. Easily the most adorable manga in my memory.

Definitely in the final stretch, but also definitely not over yet. Looking forward to the rest.
 
Taiyou no Ie 41-42

So yeah, um.

This.

I'm gonna go drink some water.

----------------
(phew. retcon:)

Taiyou no Ie (caught up)

I'm smiling so hard that it's starting to hurt a bit. Something about this is super super super super feel good and it feels good and it makes me feel good. So I guess I should say, I feel pretty good. Easily the most adorable manga in my memory.

Definitely in the final stretch, but also definitely not over yet. Looking forward to the rest.

I'm proud of you Panda

it really is fantastic.
 

Lain

Member
Manga pickups- the "this thing is fucking heavy" edition
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Please don't kill anyone with that.
 

Mortemis

Banned
Deathtopia 2

Second chapter just as meh as first, if not more. But whatever, I'll keep up.

Nisekoi 125

I've said this tons of times and I'll say it again, filler chapters are the best when it comes to Tsugumi. Like damn girl.

nisekoi - 125

haven't read this in over a year

made an exception for this chapter

it was worth it.

Did you see those clothes ripping off like they do in other action manga? We almost battle shonen, so close.
 

Shengar

Member
Wow Shokugeki no Soma 73 Raw is not for the faint of heart:

Erina's assistant for her dish takes a
live turtle cuts its head off in front of everyone. Then pours wine in the hole where the head use to be then opens up the turtle to get its guts

Nice

Now we will never get an anime for sure :'(
 

thesaucetastic

Unconfirmed Member
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chapter 8...
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Boku to Kanojo no Renai Mokuroku ch1-End
fuckkkk I was trying to remember this manga's name for the longest time! But I don't remember why anymore. ;_; Not that it was super good beyond the middle twist anyway.

Hakui no Kanojo 0
The school nurse drunkenly touches herself in front of the science teacher, and things get awkward. Didn't feel very resolved at all, but apparently there's a serialization that no one has translated, so maybe that's why.
 
Baccano Vol.01

ExY5l4Gl.jpg


So our favorite series about mafias, thieves, trains and immortals.

I think the most interesting thing with my only exposure to this is the anime is that it isn't jumping around different stories with a large cast of characters but focuses on one story with still a large cast of characters. But of course, it was enjoyable and I rather liked how it was started and ended with this being framed as a story of the past.

I also liked that it felt like a complete story on its own.
 

thesaucetastic

Unconfirmed Member
Wow Shokugeki no Soma 73 Raw is not for the faint of heart:

Erina's assistant for her dish takes a
live turtle cuts its head off in front of everyone. Then pours wine in the hole where the head use to be then opens up the turtle to get its guts

Nice
what :(

she seems hardcore as fuck but still :(
 

Revo

Member
Kuroko no Basket 264

I kinda hope he just spontaneously combusts in the middle of the court.

Peephole 27

Her face being bony helps to add to the scary.
 
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Ana Satsujin 27

Oh so wait.

When it concerns the creepy lady, your all "Eek! Please don't kill me! I have to contact the lady cop as fast as I can!"

But when it comes Miyiachi, you know the lady whose body count is most likely in the double digits and has outright stated that she will kill you, your like all "Oh no I'm fine Ms. Cop lady, there's no need to save my ass"?

You goddamn hypocrite.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewd
 

upandaway

Member
Ana Satsujin 27

Oh so wait.

When it concerns the creepy lady, your all "Eek! Please don't kill me! I have to contact the lady cop as fast as I can!"

But when it comes Miyiachi, you know the lady whose body count is most likely in the double digits and has outright stated that she will kill you, your like all "Oh no I'm fine Ms. Cop lady, there's no need to save my ass"?

You goddamn hypocrite.
The difference is that one of them is a virgin and the other isn't
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Baccano Vol.01

ExY5l4Gl.jpg


So our favorite series about mafias, thieves, trains and immortals.

I think the most interesting thing with my only exposure to this is the anime is that it isn't jumping around different stories with a large cast of characters but focuses on one story with still a large cast of characters. But of course, it was enjoyable and I rather liked how it was started and ended with this being framed as a story of the past.

I also liked that it felt like a complete story on its own.
Reminds me of just how little the show had in common with that artwork.
 

Shengar

Member
Baccano Vol.01

ExY5l4Gl.jpg


So our favorite series about mafias, thieves, trains and immortals.

I think the most interesting thing with my only exposure to this is the anime is that it isn't jumping around different stories with a large cast of characters but focuses on one story with still a large cast of characters. But of course, it was enjoyable and I rather liked how it was started and ended with this being framed as a story of the past.

I also liked that it felt like a complete story on its own.

It's jumping around, but a the volume level, not chapter.
Also, is there any english version?
 

thesaucetastic

Unconfirmed Member
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you deleted it, but still: NOT HELPING :((((

If only she doesn't believe in chinese medicinal bullshit.

Though some herbal soups can be pretty nice.
yeah, I'm not exactly a subscriber to alternative medicine either, especially when it targets endangered animals. Haven't had any of those types of soups though.

Kare no Satsujin Keikaku 0
Good, you fucking bastard. You deserved that plot twist.

Except I don't want you satisfied by it, like you seemed to be.
 

upandaway

Member
Sachiusu (caught up)

Who knew a 4koma of the same joke over and over again could make me laugh consistently, haha. It's pretty creative with it.
 

bigkrev

Member
Edge of Tomorrow (Film)

It's hard to really call this an adaptation of the manga, because apart from the basic premise and the name of the female lead, it's a pretty different movie (Think The Raid: Redemption and Dredd). It's also a much better story than the manga. Instead of wallowing in angst, the movie lets Tom Cruise just be Tom Cruise, and while it occasionally allows for moments of emotion and sadness, the movie understands that it is a summer blockbuster and throws in enough jokes in between the spectacular battle scenes to make the movie just breeze on by.

The only part that the Manga does better is the ending- Edge of Tomorrow does not have an egregious Hollywood ending, but i'm betting the ending was re-written a dozen times to get what we got. For a movie that doesn't make the relationship between Emily Blunt and Tom Cruise forced and cheesey, they got a little cute with the ending.

I'm not capable of judging a film that had both Blink and Bishop in it, but it's definitely the best non-Xmen blockbuster so far this summer. (granted, ASM2 and Godzilla were both awful, so it's not high praise). It's definitely worth seeing in theaters.
 

striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
Wow, was it necessary to mozaic censor it? i mean, it make it look like she cut 'that thing'

Himouto! Umaru-chan 60
Still the cutest thing!

Baccano Vol.01

ExY5l4Gl.jpg


So our favorite series about mafias, thieves, trains and immortals.

I think the most interesting thing with my only exposure to this is the anime is that it isn't jumping around different stories with a large cast of characters but focuses on one story with still a large cast of characters. But of course, it was enjoyable and I rather liked how it was started and ended with this being framed as a story of the past.

I also liked that it felt like a complete story on its own.

Yeah, i think LN vol.1 work like oneshot in Jump, if it's popular, there will be continuation, but if it's not, then it end there with proper ending. I remember Haganai author mention that he will write vol. 2 if it's popular.
 
Edge of Tomorrow (Film)
The only part that the Manga does better is the ending- Edge of Tomorrow does not have an egregious Hollywood ending, but i'm betting the ending was re-written a dozen times to get what we got. For a movie that doesn't make the relationship between Emily Blunt and Tom Cruise forced and cheesey, they got a little cute with the ending.

I'm not capable of judging a film that had both Blink and Bishop in it, but it's definitely the best non-Xmen blockbuster so far this summer. (granted, ASM2 and Godzilla were both awful, so it's not high praise). It's definitely worth seeing in theaters.

How is this better than Amazing Spiderman 2, that is thus far best movie of the year, only looking to be potentially outdone by Transformers and Into the Storm.

Ending being worst than the manga is pretty problematic and disappointing as it was already, personally, a weak cheap ending. Ill end up seeing this in the theater in two weeks though...
 
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