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Exactly, and an overhaul wont work either unless they do a complete rework of the game including the scope and god knows what else, I personally think this game should have been a game mode in Destiny 3 and they should have pushed it as a selling point like beside the regular PvE and Crucible they should have added extraction as a mode that could have worked.
We will see if they take the feedback and do anything with it or just shut out the noise and send it out to die because they think they know better.
Yeah and I'm sure 99% of player would prefer to play an unoriginal good game rather that an original, shitty one. Don't you?
Ok so you think what we played for Marathon was (carefull there is a keyworld in there, try to find it!)
And now you're playing dumb. Again: [Click here to stop spreading bullshit!]
You mean the thread that made MiB banned because he was spinning facts?? This is the one you take as an example? Okay...You yourself in that thread trying hard to spin things unsuccessfully
More empty words.
From what I understand they've been getting feedback for years including from tarkov players. Apparently the feedback has been rough which is why the game has taken so long but evidently they feel like they figured out the formula… or are out of time and need to get it done.It's crazy how far developers will let a game get in complete secret without getting sufficient outside opinions.
I can't believe that Bungie never got feedback on this. So either they only asked yes men or they totally ignored feedback. What's more interesting and I hesitate to bring it up, but after the response to Concord's art direction, I'm surprised there was no pause to reflect on all art direction decisions across the board.
I'd love to see where this game was a year ago.
I know Joseph Cross worked at Bungie before all this, but I can't not see a connection with him working at ProbablyMonsters and Firewalk having belonged to ProbablyMonsters.
I think Cross has talent, but this just isn't it.
What's interesting is that this looks way better
than this
You can only talk for yourself, just a reminder. Tastes differs, especially when we are talking about different stratas.
And there was an answer
It what defines ~start~ of alpha phase. But it's a bit too complex for you.
Yes, and what's the problem? It's still true for what I stated.
This shit just blows my mind
The delays don't work anyway. Suicide Squad got delayed a full year after the horrid reveal. It made no difference. Once you're a live game with the stink of bad people don't give you a chance.
Why were many on Gaf convinced that Marvel Rivals would flop?
So you think the vast majority of players would rather play a bad but original game, rather than a good game from an established franchise? Okay...
Yeah, and Arc was better received than Marathon. So...? It's not appealing to hardcore gamers and Arc as way more chances of being successful than Marathon, budget and reception are already talking.
Where did I stated that? And I'm glad that is the case! If not, gaming would be boring.
You don't have your game in alpha 6 months before release. This is a fact, no matter what you say. My point was to prove you what an alpha is. Once the different elements of gameplay are integrated and somehow working good enough, the studio can move to the next phase. I personally know the guy who made Dead Cell (btw exclusive information for gaff, his next game is gonna be on Switch 2), and I'm friend with some staff at Asobo, which are, you know, actual devs. Is this a competition?
If you say so. He got banned for misleading information that you are, for some reason, defending. Whatever float your boat my friend.
Like what?
probably because of stuff like this:
www.vice.com
On a forum where practically only hardcore present? Yeah, it'll be representative for sure.
On it's follow-up alpha? Yeah, apple to oranges is a perfect comparison.
You are talking just above about "majority of players". Neither you, this forum, reddit or anything else is representation of majority of players. You have little idea what majority looks like if you talk like that,
You might have. You even might have it to be in pre-alpha. It'll be rough, but it's doable.
He got banned for taunting based on something he himself can't explain/argue properly.
Dude, anyone with a bit of comon sense would rather play a good game rather than a bad one. That's it, stop trying to argue with this it's ridiculous.
Thing is Marathon only has a few months left now... Hence why it's not an alpha btw. You can be sure that the first playable build (so, the alpha) was made years ago. They even said themselves they let Tarkov players try it. There was a lot of work going into closed doors, what we saw and played is absolutely not a first build.
This is just comon sense really. And what is the connection with what you quote? I'm saying that the vast majority of players rather play a good game than a bad one, and somehow for you it's a hot take? Wth...
It's been in development for years, if it's effectively in alpha state that is even more concerning because that would mean it's been totally rebooted a year ago maximum!
Read the reason of the ban my friend. That's it.
Lmao sure if you say so. You are not right because you keep saying gaas was the main driving force when there is absolutely nothing, nothing to back your claim. But I'll stop here on this particular subject as it's not the thread for that.
Anyone with common sense knows that perception of what's good and what's bad are subjective.
Go re-read what alpha is and when it's end and what's next stage (beta) is about. Maybe you'll sprout less non-sense based on one sentence related to ~start~ of the phase that you still can't get.
There is no common sense in it, just YOUR belief that it's a common sense, that simple hide this particular fact:
You just have no idea how many stages there are and how long each of them. Obviously zero experience in software development.
And here we go again. He took a number, put some label on it and went flaunting and aggro people. And got banned for misrepresentation of data because it is what it is.
Of course there is nothing. You just weak at math and strong in "common sense", and it clearly shows.
Now you're reaching. I'm talking about a bad game (bad gameplay, bad story etc...) and a good game (good gameplay, good story etc...). Now of course you will always find people that like a game no matter how bad it is, but that's not what I'm talking about here.
As I said , this state has lost all it's meaning. Arc being in alpha last week is just as stupid. Beta is more adapted.Go re-read what alpha is and when it's end and what's next stage (beta) is about. Maybe you'll sprout less non-sense based on one sentence related to ~start~ of the phase that you still can't get.
I know it'll be hard for you, but how game, like Arc, can have follow-up alpha if it's only a 'first playable build", changes always means a new build
There is no common sense in saying that the vast majority of players rather play a good game than a bad one?? What do you want me to say when you spout out such nonsense.
Nobody know how long it is because it can vary from a studio to another and many, MANY other factor. There is no absolute response. What we can say is that a game 6 months before release is not in alpha unless it's in terrible shape. And we know they reached alpha a long time ago because of the information we can recoup.
Me: he got banned for misleading information.
As I said it's not the topic, and you already have a hard time being consistent with Marathon so let's keep it there.
Facts, we all know it's bullshit really. Unless they delay it by AT LEAST 18 months but I don't see this happening.I had the same thought when I heard they were calling their preview "Alpha". Like, are you guys really prepared to rip out big pieces of the game and replace them at this point, which would also require delaying the game quite a bit, or are you 95% content locked?
Its a pure copy, and the art director follows the artist for years.
They have responded trying to avoid any accountability.
To the fanatics that were defending this trash, what now?
From another user :
"The artists name can even be seen in the game (granted it's smudged, Bungie probably thought handle 'anti real' was just a cool word salad).
The artists watermark/logo is also present all over the game because they just blatantly copy pasted.
A number of Bungie employees along with the lead art director follow the artist on twitter. It's such a shitshow."
And this is the 3rd or 4th time they are caught plagiarizing/stealing content.
They copied his entire PF -
It's the Sony way
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Word on the Marathon Discord is that the stream is still going to happen in 45 minutes.
Concord 2.0 beta reaction incoming and the usual defense force from devs and fanboys gaslighting people with their "toxic positive", telling everyone how the game is great and doesn't need to change at all
Honestly all of the fanboys are just getting worse and worse. I wish people could distance themselves from being so protective of their preferred platform, its so odd to me. You can love what you love for whatever reason why, and other people's opinions shouldn't affect how you feel about it.
It's dead. The game, I mean.
